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Posted: 12/14/2005 1:34:10 PM EDT
I purchased a Colt Match Target AR today. The roll stamp say's Match Target Lightweight. Ser # CSL011xxx. Said to have never been fired. 1/7 CMP 16" barrel. Short fixed stock. No flash suppressor. The Gun is flawless without a scratch. Can anyone tell me what model number this is and what it may be worth. I have several Colts, but never ran across one like this before. Thanks for any feed back.........
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 1:45:15 PM EDT
Colt has produced rifles with the stubby stock?
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 1:48:43 PM EDT
I stand corrected the stock just looked like a stubby. It measures 10.5 inches
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 2:08:17 PM EDT
Oh ok, that makes more sense...sorry I don't know the exact model though.

I believe somewhere on this sight is a list of every Colt's production model, that has photos/descriptions.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 2:11:18 PM EDT
I look for the colt model list and thanks for the recon. I wanted to post a photo but didn't see a way to insert one. Thx again.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 2:24:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 2:25:09 PM EDT by Stickman]
Does it have an A2 flash suppresor or bayonet lug? Did it come in a box?
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 2:27:11 PM EDT
HERE is a page with serial numbers for the different Colt AR15s.
HTH,
Jim
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 2:27:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 2:29:06 PM EDT by scottryan]
Its a 6530

It should have a thin barrel.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 2:28:33 PM EDT
6530 is the 16" 1/7 thin barrel with fixed stock

6520 is the same with a tele stock
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 2:46:38 PM EDT
No flash suppressor or bayonet lug and no box........
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 2:47:29 PM EDT
Thanks
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 2:49:23 PM EDT
The CLS prefix is throwing me a curve. Don't 6530 have a ML preifx?
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 2:52:26 PM EDT
It does have a thin barrel....... What significance is the CSL Prefix. Any comments, Thanks
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 3:10:53 PM EDT
They start different models with different prefixes.
How sure are you about that serial number and prefix? Can you check again closely?
Jim
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 3:58:12 PM EDT
This gun has the best roll stamp of any Colt I've ever seen. It definitely has a "CSL" prefix. I really hope someone could clarify this. IF not, It doesn't matter, The important part of the stamp is the part that say's Colt. I do appreciate the expertise, however. Thanks
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 3:58:46 PM EDT
My pre-ban 6520 serial prefix is "GC"

Bill
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 4:06:21 PM EDT
Bill, Interesting. Is your 6520 roll marked "Lightweight"?
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 4:15:54 PM EDT
With no bayonet lug or flash suppressor your rifle is probably post ban.
Jim
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 4:21:41 PM EDT
JIm, Your comment makes sense. However, the dealer took the gun in on trade from a collector he knows well and he was told that the gun was purchased in the late 80's. Should'nt the serial number give some indication to it's year built. (CSL011xxx)?
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 4:30:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 4:33:05 PM EDT by pepperbelly]
I had understood that the Match Target designation was stamped during the ban since AR15 was a bad name then.
What does the upper look like? Can you post a pic? Does it look like this?
Jim
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 4:39:08 PM EDT
Jim, That's the gun............. Can't see the roll stamp, but look's identical in the picture (s). Steve
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 4:40:46 PM EDT
jim do you know what to click to post a photo? I normally can figure this stuff out but I', lost on this one. steve
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 4:41:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 4:44:01 PM EDT by KingC]
I have the Sporter Lightweight R6530. It's SN prefix is SL. I also have the Sporter Target R6551 and it's prefix is ST. The MT6551 Match Target I have has a SN prefix of CST. This shows a pattern that the post ban Colt's Match Target line started with the letter C. agree?

Link Posted: 12/14/2005 4:43:12 PM EDT
Here is the link. Sorry for the brain fart.
Jim
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 4:49:52 PM EDT
Jim, Got the link. thx, King "C" may be onto the fact that this is a post ban gun. hmmmmmmmmmm.
I paid $768 w/ tax ($725 w/o) I hope I'm still okay.... The important thing is, I like it and it's one I don't have yet. Thanks for the help everyone. steve
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 4:53:15 PM EDT
For that price it is almost certainly post ban. That's a decent price, and being post ban is not a problem. I have a post ban Match Target Competition 6700 20" HBAR.
The Lightweight designation may just indicate a government weight barrel, although it's stamped on the lower makes me wonder.
Hopefully someone a lot smarter than me will be along soon.
Jim
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 5:00:32 PM EDT
Jim, I have a 6700C HBar as well. Great Shooter huh?. I really like the weight. Feels a lot like my 6724 tac driver......... Makes the carbines feel like toy's. The 6920 is my favorite carbine as I call them little guns. I'm gonna shoot this "what ever it is" (6530?) gun this weekend. No safe queens here (OH, maybe one or two) Thank's for the info. steve
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 5:08:24 PM EDT
Its a 6530, Match Target Lightweight, these came in three calibers, .223, 9mm and 7.62x39mm

It replaced the sporter lightweight, the CSL prefix is correct for a post ban lightweight in .223
This variation offers the lightweight and more compact 16" barrel, in conjunction with the M16A2 buttstock

CLH prefix 7.62x39

CNL prefix 9mm

You got it for a Good price
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 5:55:03 PM EDT
Yarddogone, Okay. Now were talkin. Thanks for doing the DNA testing on this one. It's a postban 6530 that's found a happy home with lot's of friends,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and food. Thanks again for responding.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 6:08:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By johnthreesixteen:
Jim, I have a 6700C HBar as well. Great Shooter huh?. I really like the weight. Feels a lot like my 6724 tac driver......... Makes the carbines feel like toy's. The 6920 is my favorite carbine as I call them little guns. I'm gonna shoot this "what ever it is" (6530?) gun this weekend. No safe queens here (OH, maybe one or two) Thank's for the info. steve



I hate to admit it, but I haven't made it to the range yet. I have had it for a week, so I am not too ashamed-yet!
I like the feel of heavier weapons too, but I am 6' 225. I wonder if the smaller guys have more trouble with the weight? I don't mean to imply puniness but I have always been comfortable with more weight than littler guys in everything.
Jim
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 6:32:44 PM EDT
Jim, I've never shot a production gun that felt comfortable to me. I have a 38" sleve lngth....... The carbines always seem short. I'm a tall lankie briar from Ky. and wish that all stocks were 3 inches longer........... You are going to love that 6700. I have shot some impressive groups with mine. Don't forget to break-in the barrel if it's new. It's maybe a wives tale. But, I always break in a new gun by running a boresnake or patch through the barrel before and after the first twenty rounds. A real pain when your trying to sight in a new gun, but the results for me have been excellent. I will note that i'm not a very good shot so I need all the help I can get. Other people I know, swear by this procedure as well. Steve
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 5:36:53 PM EDT
I have the exact same rifle. It is marked Colt Match Target Lightweight Cal .223. My serial number is CSL0075XX. It has a thin 16 inch barrel marked C MP 5.56 NATO 1/7. Mine came with a plastic buffer. If yours has the same you may want to consider replacing it with a standard A2 buffer. It has no flash suppressor and no bayo lug. Mine had less than 100 rounds through it and I paid $700.00 for it. He also threw in a cheap Simmons red dot scope, three 30 round Colt LEO mags, two 10 round plastic and metal colt mags, and a gun case. It turned out to be a pretty good deal. I may have ADCO add a Phantom suppressor after Christmas. It is a great rifle.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 5:53:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2005 5:54:52 PM EDT by lancew]

Originally Posted By johnthreesixteen:
Jim, Got the link. thx, King "C" may be onto the fact that this is a post ban gun. hmmmmmmmmmm.
I paid $768 w/ tax ($725 w/o) I hope I'm still okay.... The important thing is, I like it and it's one I don't have yet. Thanks for the help everyone. steve



I sold one on the EE for a buddy a while back - it sold for $750 shipped, but had no box or papers. It sounds like you got a decent deal on the rifle. As others have mentioned, it is AWB-era 6520 basically, with a fixed stock.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 7:48:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lancew:


I sold one on the EE for a buddy a while back - it sold for $750 shipped, but had no box or papers. It sounds like you got a decent deal on the rifle. As others have mentioned, it is AWB-era 6520 basically, with a fixed stock.



No,

They were made before the ban also.

A 6530 is not a ban compliant 6520.



Link Posted: 12/16/2005 9:18:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/16/2005 11:33:33 PM EDT by Kisara]

Originally Posted By scottryan:
No, They were made before the ban also.


Yep, scottryan is correct: R6350 blue label. A2 flash hider, no bayonet lug, and in most cases the rare "CS" marked A1 stock with A2 trapdoor.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 9:37:11 AM EDT
I've got one of these also. Mine is definately post-ban as I bought it new in '94 or '95, but I've evilized it since the ban expired. It came with a full stock, noodle barrel, no flash suppressor and no bayonet lug. My barrel is marked C MP 5.56 NATO 1/7, the lower is marked MATCH TARGET, second line is LIGHTWEIGHT, third line is CAL. 223, fourth line is SER. CSL 003XXX. The carry handle has a C with MB below it by the rear sight.
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 8:09:32 PM EDT
same as mine - still unfired - don't really know from what year it was built. would like to photos of your evilized.............
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 11:32:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mtchristman:
I've evilized it


Me too!
Link Posted: 12/17/2005 7:06:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/17/2005 7:47:16 AM EDT by mtchristman]
Here's mine I hope.

Link Posted: 12/17/2005 7:17:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/17/2005 7:19:19 AM EDT by KA3B]

Originally Posted By mtchristman:
Here's mine I hope.

img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00000051ut.jpg



Put IMG, not URL in the [ ] thingies.

Link Posted: 12/17/2005 7:21:56 AM EDT


Hey, you're hot!! The gun is not bad looking either.
Link Posted: 12/17/2005 7:44:00 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/17/2005 7:53:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Kisara:

Originally Posted By mtchristman:
I've evilized it


Me too!
www.boomspeed.com/arasik/GrayLtwtTA50.jpg



What kind of front sight base with the bayonet lug did you use?
Link Posted: 12/17/2005 8:18:04 AM EDT
I will ask a dumb question but,does this modl have M4 feedrampsand when did Colt start putting them in the short barrels? Don't Flame me for asking this question.
Link Posted: 12/17/2005 8:25:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By WILDBILL756:
I will ask a dumb question but,does this modl have M4 feedrampsand when did Colt start putting them in the short barrels? Don't Flame me for asking this question.



I would have to see a picture of M4 feedramps and non M4 feedramps to know the difference.
Link Posted: 12/17/2005 4:05:56 PM EDT
Thanks for the photos. Great looking piece. I'll probably keep mine o.e. as I have a couple other canidates for evilizing...
Link Posted: 12/17/2005 8:50:33 PM EDT
I know what M4 feed ramps look like, I just like to know what models of Colt to they come in ,I know the LE 6920.6921.
Link Posted: 12/17/2005 9:26:21 PM EDT
I actually sold my whole upper and then built this one from various "Gov't Carbine" and "Sporter Lightweight" uppers. The first was too dark of gray, but I kept the barrel. The second was the right color, but had a small pivot hole (my lower doesn't). When I used the adapter, the rear take down pin wouldn't go in or out without several hammer taps and a raspy scratching sound. I've never had that problem before when using adapters, and it just didn't seem right. I bough a third upper and finally got the correct color and size hole, and with CM markings (the others were CMB).

It costs a lot of money to buy whole uppers to pick from, but being Colt they are also very easy to sell and for top dollar too.

Most of the carbine uppers from the 90's on will have the ramps. The rifle uppers won't, but really new ones might. Ekie could probably answer that one. Here's one Government upper I sold, with the small hole, CMB, M4 markings, and sear cutout. The one I kept had the ramps but not the markings. I ended up making more money than what I bought it for!
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