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9/23/2020 3:47:02 PM
Posted: 4/17/2006 5:04:10 AM EDT
Well guys I recently bought a Trijicon Accupoint TR21R to mount on my Bushy M4.  I really like the scope...  It is VERY clear, plenty bright for a 24mm objective, and appears to be very well made.  BUT... I'm just not sure I like the reticle.  It's very fast, but I'm thinking a mil-dot style would be more precise at distance.  Now if Trijicon made a mil-dot reticle for that scope, I'd have it.  But they don't....  

In doing some research, I came across this Leopold:  http://www.riflescopes.com/products/LEU56120/leupold_3.5-10x40_mark_4_pr_riflescope.htm

The price is right at $620 and I can mount it in my LaRue 1" SPR-E mount.  The specs are just what I'm now looking for, since I've decided to up my magnification as well.  I WILL be selling my M4 upper and buying a 20" Predator upper or something similar.  I'll be shooting at 300 yards MAX at my range in NJ.

Before I waste more $$$, has anyone had any experience with this particular scope?  

Thanks much!  Oh and if anyone wants a LIKE NEW Accupoint... purchased from SWFA 1 month ago and taken to the range TWICE, it will be on the EE before too long...  
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 7:32:56 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 7:43:26 AM EDT
The PR isn't considered tacticool but is a good scope for the money.

As Wes stated, it is a 30mm tube so buy the corresponding mount.

Link Posted: 4/17/2006 7:49:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ian187:
The PR isn't considered tacticool but is a good scope for the money.

As Wes stated, it is a 30mm tube so buy the corresponding mount.




I see... I guess SWFA messed up on their site then...

Leupold 3.5-10x40 Mark 4 PR Riflescope

Matte
Mil-Dot
1"
Target Knobs
SWFA: $619.95

Not necessarily looking for tacticool... But is it a solid, reliable scope with good glass ??

Link Posted: 4/17/2006 7:56:00 AM EDT
You know what... Optics Planet has it listed as a 1" tube as well??  So WTF is it??  I don't see in on Leupolds site??

http://www.opticsplanet.net/leupold-mark-4-3-5-10x40mm-pr-rifle-scope.html#

Link Posted: 4/17/2006 8:09:05 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 9:29:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Cixelsyd:
www.leupold.com/products/tactical_products/Mark_4_3_5-10x40mm_PR.htm

It has a 1" tube.

CHRIS



Excellent!  Thanks Chris...

I'm thinking this may be a better scope for 200-300 precision target shooting on a 20" Predator upper.  

Do you guys think this is the right scope for my purposes?
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 9:44:21 AM EDT
I use the 30mm models, but that one will surely work.  I'd maybe go up a little on the top end magnification for strictly target shooting.  But that's just me, I need all the help I can get.

You can also save a few bucks by going with a fixed SWFA Sooper Sniper scope and be just as well off.  

...Just realized that your Larue mount is 1".  Scratch the SS idea.


CHRIS

Link Posted: 4/17/2006 9:53:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Cixelsyd:
I use the 30mm models, but that one will surely work.  I'd maybe go up a little on the top end magnification for strictly target shooting.  But that's just me, I need all the help I can get.

You can also save a few bucks by going with a fixed SWFA Sooper Sniper scope and be just as well off.  

...Just realized that your Larue mount is 1".  Scratch the SS idea.


CHRIS




Yeah I'd like to keep the LaRue mount if possible.  I like to remove the scope when cleaning and the QD levers are great.  Aside from that, are there any advantages to rings over the LaRue??
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 10:49:17 AM EDT

Might I suggest the next step up on Leupold Tactica scopes

http://www.samplelist.com/default.asp?display_num=10&mfg_selection=7&prod_type=-1&hide_sold=false

SWFA has a bunch of new in box "older" 3.5-10X40 M1 Long Range  tactical ( the M1 turrets are very nice ) with illuminated recticle for $800 . This is a 30mm , 3rd turret side focus model

They also have some left with the M3 BDC style turret

I bought one and for the money you can't beat it . They are the older style before they changed most of the tactical line to carry the Mark 4 name. The new version of this scope is about $1200 .

Optical clarity is very good ( I have S&B PMIIs and Nightforce NSX to compare ) for the $$



Link Posted: 4/17/2006 3:22:34 PM EDT
Has the PR always been a 1" tube? I could have sworn they were the same tube (30mm) as the MK4 M1 with target knobs instead Turrets?

Link Posted: 4/17/2006 3:56:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ian187:
Has the PR always been a 1" tube? I could have sworn they were the same tube (30mm) as the MK4 M1 with target knobs instead Turrets?




Yes, except for the 4.5-14X50 model which is 30mm.  The PR series was a new line for Leupold as of 2004.  They are basically the 3-9x40 Vari-X II and 3.5-10x40 Vari-III models souped up a bit with Leupold's "matched index lens" system.   I could not tell any discernable differences bewtween my Vari-II 3-9 scope from my friends PR 3-9 scope.
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 5:28:30 PM EDT

I had one a while back although at the time it was called a Vari-X III.  Very nice scope.  Mine had a 1" tube FWIW.
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 5:34:40 PM EDT
The Mk4 4.5-14X40 PR has a 30mm tube.
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 6:56:31 PM EDT
Well you guys pretty much convinced me... I'm going with the Leupold 3.5-10 X 40 Mark 4 PR in my LaRue SPR-E mount.  My Accu-Point is on the EE if anyone is interested...

My Bushy M4gery complete upper will be up there as well to help fund my 20" Predator upper...

Thanks for all your responses!!!
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