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Posted: 1/21/2006 5:14:28 PM EDT
What's the best you've used and give us all a link to where you bought them.


Gary
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:43:48 AM EDT
[#1]
No one has any strong feelings about their patches it would appear?
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 7:57:54 AM EDT
[#2]
Best patches ever, clean room cleaning cloths. I still have some from when I worked at Intel. They pull grunge off the best and leave no lint behind. Unfortunately, they are expensive,  hard to find, and you have to cut them to size yourself. BSW
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 10:38:36 AM EDT
[#3]
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 1:52:41 PM EDT
[#4]
I bought just cheap cotton patches from Sportsman's Guide long ago.  They feel pretty rough, like they would really grab stuff off your bore.  But at the same token, they are hard to push through.  I have to cut .22 patches WAY down.  

I used to use synthetic patches, but those really don't feel like they are getting anything out, just good at soaking up solvent.

Gundraw
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 4:42:24 PM EDT
[#5]
100% double nap cotton flannel patches, color white.

lots of places sell them. Midway Oxi-Oak, Pro Shot, Dewy, etc.

Material is more important than "Brand" name.  

I used to goto the sewing supply shop for patches. Cut them to size using a paper cuter. Now I just buy in bulk.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 7:50:31 AM EDT
[#6]
otis
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 8:08:03 AM EDT
[#7]
I really like using Dewy patches
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 8:23:29 AM EDT
[#8]
I make my own!  Old t shirts and such are great patches.

I can't see buying patches.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 11:36:05 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
I make my own!  Old t shirts and such are great patches.

I can't see buying patches.



Same here. I go to the local fabric store and buy a couple yards of light colored cotton flannel. I use a pair of scissors to customize my patch size.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 3:55:03 PM EDT
[#10]
what size do you guys find the best for the 5.56; 7/8", or 1 1/8"?
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 4:21:29 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
what size do you guys find the best for the 5.56; 7/8", or 1 1/8"?



3 pi/10
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 11:10:22 PM EDT
[#12]
I am curious too.  I've had a real problem getting a good patch size by cutting a 3"X3" sheet.  

I've always heard 1"X1" is about right for .223, but that is WAY to big for my .223.

I've been cutting 1.5"X1.5" for .45, .44, .38 etc.  However, they still fit pretty tight, tight enough I usually have to kinda tap them through.  Is this bad?  How tight should the patch fit.

Just curious as I"ve just cut them to some old specificates that came with some bought synthetic patches and they don't seem to be quite right.

Gundraw
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 1:44:01 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
what size do you guys find the best for the 5.56; 7/8", or 1 1/8"?



I like using a 30 cal patch (2" x 2") cut into 0.5 x 2" strips and wrapped around a bronze brush
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 3:11:03 AM EDT
[#14]
material is also important when dealing with the idea patch size. For the material I use (100% cotton white double nap flannel) I find that 1 x 1 works great on both a jag or patch loop. When using the the jag the patch must be centered on the spear portion.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 11:16:06 PM EDT
[#15]
I use my wife's cotton panties for patch material.

No special reason, I just like handling them.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 3:11:57 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
I use my wife's cotton panties for patch material.

No special reason, I just like handling them.



You need help!
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 4:26:04 AM EDT
[#17]
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 6:13:31 AM EDT
[#18]
The Sentinel brand absorbent round makeup removal patches in the beauty section of the grocery/department stores.

You can tear them with your hands to fit, and they stay together very well while rubbing or dabbing oil/CLP. They are rough surfaced for scrubbing. About two bux for a bundle of 50 or so that lasts a LONG time.

For some reason I don't understand, the pink ones work the best.

They are not teh ghey.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 2:17:36 AM EDT
[#19]
Just ordered a 1000 Butches Triple Twill patches   1 1/8" square.  Will let you all know how the do next time I clean my weapon.

Regards,
Gary
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 2:23:07 AM EDT
[#20]
Southern Bloomers

Normally purchased at my FFL’s

Nothing ever comes close to how well they go though the bores as well as they do.
Every once in a while I try somebody else.  But I always come back to Southern Bloomers.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 5:07:41 AM EDT
[#21]
Buy the cotton ones that Brownells sells.  I buy them in the bulk pack and they last forever that way.



The worst are the ones that Walmart sells.  They don't remove crap.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 10:02:32 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
Just ordered a 1000 Butches Triple Twill patches   1 1/8" square.  Will let you all know how the do next time I clean my weapon.

Regards,
Gary



If you are interested, I actually just bought some of these as well to try out (I was a few bucks short of  the $200 I needed to get a discount on Midwayusa) and so I bought a pack to see how they worked AND so I could take them around when I'm dont and try and find similar cloth at the store.

However, I noticed you bought the precut 1 1/8" squares.  However, what I did, was look, and you can buy the  35 to 45 cal. patches in a pack of 500, they are usually exactly the same price.  However, they are 2 1/4" x 2 1/4".... So with a quick snip in half both ways, you now have twice the patches of exactly the same thing for the same price!

Gundraw
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 11:17:32 AM EDT
[#23]
Nice tip!

Thanks,
Gary
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 4:46:51 AM EDT
[#24]
Okay.....I finished cleaning several of my AR's with the new Butch's Bore Clean patches.  Here is what I noticed:

1.  The patch is 1 1/8" square which is smaller than most .22 calliber patches.  This is due to the patch being much much thicker in millage.  How much thicker I don't know...but much!

2.  Using a dewey rod and patch jag, you can not place the patch squaring in the center.  This is due to the thickness of the patch.  You need to pierce the patch near the upper corner.  Failure to do so will result in the batch not fitting down the barrel.

3.  The patch is textured with what appears to be ribs of some sort.  This works very well absorbing cleaning solvent and cleaning the barrel.  

4.  There is absolutely no lint or edge fraying with these patches.  

Overall, I like these patches very much. If you need new patches I would suggest you give Butch's a shot.

Regards,
Gary
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 6:10:06 AM EDT
[#25]
For patches, I prefer the Pro-Shot brand.  Good stuff.  

However, I do also like the VFG felt pellet system as noted above.  I think, on the whole, it works better than any patch ever will.  
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 12:24:48 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
1.  The patch is 1 1/8" square which is smaller than most .22 calliber patches.  This is due to the patch being much much thicker in millage.  How much thicker I don't know...but much!

2.  Using a dewey rod and patch jag, you can not place the patch squaring in the center.  This is due to the thickness of the patch.  You need to pierce the patch near the upper corner.  Failure to do so will result in the batch not fitting down the barrel.

Regards,
Gary



These are some issues I've been dealing with which are the REASON i'm switching patches.  I bought some 3"X3".  I might try cutting those down to 1"X1" to see if that solves the problem with not fitting.  My current ones I have to cut VERY small (or pierce of center).  

Gundraw
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 10:14:42 AM EDT
[#27]
The .223  Southern Bloomer patches are so small that i could blow them through my barrell.  i can't imagine that they do much at all.  I stopped using them after the first time.  I like the round otis patches and am curently using 2.5 by 2.5 patches from Marks.  They are the best fit  i have found for my 5.56 rifles.  Strange because most patches you guys have mentioned are much smaller.  I don't have to muscle these patches through and they seem to clean very well.
$00.01
lobsta
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 10:16:07 AM EDT
[#28]
I just stuff it with pieces of old shirt and shoot it out.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 11:34:19 AM EDT
[#29]
I've had good luck using Pro-Shot patches WITH Pro-Shot jags.

It seems as if MFGrs match their jags' diameter to the thickness of patch
material they make.

ALso had good luck using 7/8" diameter patches made ny Outer's using Outer's jags.

Just my .02 worth.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 12:22:34 PM EDT
[#30]
"I've always heard 1"X1" is about right for .223, but that is WAY to big for my .223."

Your .223 is defective
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 1:48:48 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
"I've always heard 1"X1" is about right for .223, but that is WAY to big for my .223."

Your .223 is defective



Oh good, solved that.

Wow, what are the odds, all three of my .223's are defective.  

Great tip!

Gundraw
Link Posted: 2/21/2006 6:06:35 AM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
"I've always heard 1"X1" is about right for .223, but that is WAY to big for my .223."

Your .223 is defective



Oh good, solved that.

Wow, what are the odds, all three of my .223's are defective.  

Great tip!

Gundraw



___

Lighten-up Francis.

Area of the 1"x1" patch may quite be right...thickness of material used is the volume problem you are experiencing.  Try thinner materials.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 12:55:24 PM EDT
[#33]
Pro Shots and/or "southern bloomers"

Pro shots for rifles, generally, and the SB's for everything else.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:13:36 PM EDT
[#34]
I pick out the proper size cotton patches from Brownell's.  Academy has decent prices.   I have an Otis kit and would buy theirs but they're too exspensive.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 12:24:39 PM EDT
[#35]
I'm using U.S. Arsenal patches distributed by First Samco. They are  2" round with ribs and are really tough.  No lint and they clean both my .223 and my .308 great when used with a Dewey rod.  I got them 500 to a bag for $5 at the last gun show.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 4:49:47 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
otis

 +1, if you haven't watched the video on Otis' site you should.  You can get three or more clean passes with the same patch.  They fit snug too, no trying to wrap a patch around a jag and get it in the bore.

Brownell's also has some "mil spec" patches, 1K for $9 something.
Link Posted: 3/16/2006 10:17:09 AM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
otis



+1
Link Posted: 3/22/2006 3:55:38 PM EDT
[#38]
"So with a quick snip in half both ways, you now have twice the patches of exactly the same thing for the same price!"


If you cut it both ways, wouldn't you have 4 times as many, not 2?
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