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Link Posted: 12/27/2020 9:39:05 AM EST
Another blind getting older man checking in.

This looks like exactly what I need to replace my PA microdot with
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 9:41:33 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:
This was to be a SHOT show release but since it was canceled I have been showing it around a little. 11 brightness settings including NV

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Oh... NV you say? Curious.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 10:11:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By shelbysguns:

Oh... NV you say? Curious.
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Originally Posted By shelbysguns:
Originally Posted By MARSH1:
This was to be a SHOT show release but since it was canceled I have been showing it around a little. 11 brightness settings including NV


Oh... NV you say? Curious.

I’M CALLING DIBS!!!!
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 10:24:23 AM EST
I kinda want to hear more about the 2.5-10x updates that got a throwaway hint in thread

But I still want to hear more about this 1x. So January drop it sounds like, with mid-January pre-order dates? So closer to end of the month, or very beginning of February, for first releases. That's an awful tempting proposition.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 12:55:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By shelbysguns:

Oh... NV you say? Curious.
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I just finally got the 2X GLX and its got NV settings and with the included tall mount I can use it with my poors digital NVG
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 1:08:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By slappomatt:
I just finally got the 2X GLX and its got NV settings and with the included tall mount I can use it with my poors digital NVG
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How does it work? Some people say they use their lpvo on nv mode but ive never gotten that to work.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 6:00:34 PM EST
@MARSH1

When will preorders open up?
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 6:17:15 PM EST
Tag for info
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 6:20:39 PM EST
Does it mount to a carry handle?
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 6:39:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Knife_Sniper:
Does it mount to a carry handle?
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It has a mini acog style base, so if mini acogs can mount on a carry handle.....
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 6:59:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Moto-M187:


It has a mini acog style base, so if mini acogs can mount on a carry handle.....
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Can you use the sights through it like an ACOG?
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 7:42:52 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 8:13:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By shelbysguns:

How does it work? Some people say they use their lpvo on nv mode but ive never gotten that to work.
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well I've got a bino sionyx setup, and I have the optic mounted on the rifle, the reticle on NV settings shows up well, and you just kinda BAC it. if that makes sense. I can see through the optic, but I haven't tried it with IR, a lot of the chinese optics have strong IR block coatings on the lens that make optics not work well with IR and being a poor, I usually need IR. with my semi urban house and IR cameras and IR floods all around the house there really isn't anywhere dark I can easily test it. Ill see what I can do though.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 8:22:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sgtlmj:


Can you use the sights through it like an ACOG?
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I have no clue. You'd have to research mini acog mounts and see if they would fit your needs.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 8:32:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sgtlmj:

Can you use the sights through it like an ACOG?
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot???  Over?

The lowest magnification Acog is a 1.5x, and you can't use iron sights through it.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 8:33:05 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 9:03:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Sniper3142:




Whiskey Tango Foxtrot???  Over?

The lowest magnification Acog is a 1.5x, and you can't use iron sights through it.
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Originally Posted By Sniper3142:
Originally Posted By sgtlmj:

Can you use the sights through it like an ACOG?




Whiskey Tango Foxtrot???  Over?

The lowest magnification Acog is a 1.5x, and you can't use iron sights through it.

He's not talking about co-witness.
The ACOG has a hole through it so that when mounted on a carry handle, you can use the carry handle irons and see the front sight through the base.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 9:04:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By slappomatt:
well I've got a bino sionyx setup, and I have the optic mounted on the rifle, the reticle on NV settings shows up well, and you just kinda BAC it. if that makes sense. I can see through the optic, but I haven't tried it with IR, a lot of the chinese optics have strong IR block coatings on the lens that make optics not work well with IR and being a poor, I usually need IR. with my semi urban house and IR cameras and IR floods all around the house there really isn't anywhere dark I can easily test it. Ill see what I can do though.
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Oh yeah. Have you shot it like that?

My bet is you wont be able to hit anything.

I have to close my eyes and look thru my right tube and look thru the optic for it work.

The whole overlay on the other eye thing doesnt work. I see people try it all the time at the range.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 11:36:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By shelbysguns:

Oh yeah. Have you shot it like that?

My bet is you wont be able to hit anything.

I have to close my eyes and look thru my right tube and look thru the optic for it work.

The whole overlay on the other eye thing doesnt work. I see people try it all the time at the range.
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hmm. well it works with my Eotech. I assumed it would work through this, hoping to get out soon with it, Ill AAR
Link Posted: 12/28/2020 8:58:52 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/28/2020 9:26:19 AM EST
What kind of mounting mechanism does it use and what is the expected weight of the optic?
Link Posted: 12/28/2020 9:44:23 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/28/2020 11:53:34 AM EST
Since it’s a prism, I am assuming it has an adjustable diopter?
Link Posted: 12/28/2020 12:48:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:



I will post the full specs soon. It uses Mini cog style base

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/bb190/marsh2001/1x_Micro_Prism_Shot_Show_Schematic_1800x4000.jpg
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Never had a prism except acog in the army. Is there a height standard for these like BUIS/RDS?

I can't really find info on it.
Link Posted: 12/28/2020 1:40:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:



Yes! It used the same see through riser as the GLx 2X.

Image borrowed from a post in the 2X thread

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/bb190/marsh2001/E1AB5371_A579_44FC_8D6C_4B51E5B08DE8_1247874.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/bb190/marsh2001/6Gu1jjN.jpg
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Excellent. The reason I asked is because it looked incredibly low for a carry handle mount and I thought there may be some clearance issues.

I see that it comes with different risers. Nice.
Link Posted: 12/28/2020 2:57:50 PM EST
really curious what the new reticle looks like. my 2x is already on the small side, I dont know if I would want a 1X
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:



7oz  Yes
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Is that 7oz including the mount?
Link Posted: 12/31/2020 9:25:50 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/31/2020 11:08:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:



7oz includes the complete low mount.  Riser adds 1/2 oz
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Not bad at all for a prism
Link Posted: 12/31/2020 11:15:24 AM EST
What's the eye relief like on it?
Link Posted: 12/31/2020 11:40:27 AM EST
That's a good looking optic, I might need to grab one or two of these .
Link Posted: 12/31/2020 7:23:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ahrion:

Not bad at all for a prism
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Concur. There's a chuck of glass inside...so featherweight and prismatic don't usually hang out together in the same sentence.
Link Posted: 1/1/2021 12:12:07 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 45-Seventy:
Where is it made?
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PA has all of their optics made in shit hole Asian countries, and contract with some well known brands.  But, I have been impressed with their quality and innovation in their price range.  You get solid value.  Not the best optics, but fir the price, they cannot be beaten.  And they have food WA in their China factories.  China can build good stuff if you spec it right and check their output.  What does not make the grade fir one brand is purchased by another brand.  All
The leftovers go to Airsoft optics
Link Posted: 1/1/2021 2:07:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By can-man:


PA has all of their optics made in shit hole Asian countries, and contract with some well known brands.  But, I have been impressed with their quality and innovation in their price range.  You get solid value.  Not the best optics, but fir the price, they cannot be beaten.  And they have food WA in their China factories.  China can build good stuff if you spec it right and check their output.  What does not make the grade fir one brand is purchased by another brand.  All
The leftovers go to Airsoft optics
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All of their optics are not made in shithole countries. PLx line is made in Japan.  With that said, PA has strict rules on their QC. It's all about the manufacturer.

If memory serves, Athlon, Vortex, Atibal, and PA use the same manufacturers. I could be wrong however. They all offer pretty similar specced optics that are all decent for their range.
Link Posted: 1/1/2021 7:13:41 AM EST
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Originally Posted By can-man:


PA has all of their optics made in shit hole Asian countries, and contract with some well known brands.  But, I have been impressed with their quality and innovation in their price range.  You get solid value.  Not the best optics, but fir the price, they cannot be beaten.  And they have food WA in their China factories.  China can build good stuff if you spec it right and check their output.  What does not make the grade fir one brand is purchased by another brand.  All
The leftovers go to Airsoft optics
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Fir?
Link Posted: 1/1/2021 9:52:50 AM EST
I loved the Cyclops I had, but the reticle was just too small.  I'm in if this one is more usable!
Link Posted: 1/1/2021 10:47:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 45-Seventy:


Just say China, then.
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Literally everyone else knew this.
Link Posted: 1/1/2021 11:10:33 PM EST
I'm very interested in hearing from people that have used this with NODs.

The reticule is a big deal too.  I know a lot of people love the ACSS, but to be honest it is way to busy for me, and that would be triple true looking at it through green eyes.
Link Posted: 1/2/2021 12:14:45 AM EST
Good looking optic has the street price been released yet
Link Posted: 1/2/2021 7:11:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By slappomatt:
really curious what the new reticle looks like. my 2x is already on the small side, I dont know if I would want a 1X
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That's not good to hear about the 2x. I have one on pre-order. As far as the 1x having a ranging reticle, I don't see the point. Too small to see, no magnification to actually make use of it.
Link Posted: 1/2/2021 8:24:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AirRaceFan:


That's not good to hear about the 2x. I have one on pre-order. As far as the 1x having a ranging reticle, I don't see the point. Too small to see, no magnification to actually make use of it.
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Relax. The 2x reticle is fine. Its not like the Cyclops.
Link Posted: 1/2/2021 11:12:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By can-man:


PA has all of their optics made in shit hole Asian countries, and contract with some well known brands.  But, I have been impressed with their quality and innovation in their price range.  You get solid value.  Not the best optics, but fir the price, they cannot be beaten.  And they have food WA in their China factories.  China can build good stuff if you spec it right and check their output.  What does not make the grade fir one brand is purchased by another brand.  All
The leftovers go to Airsoft optics
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Japan is a “shithole Asian country”??
Link Posted: 1/2/2021 11:14:10 AM EST
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Originally Posted By BruceLeroy:

Literally everyone else knew this.
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They have optic produced in other countries, I was hoping for LOW but knew the likely answer.
Link Posted: 1/2/2021 11:35:19 AM EST
Jeebus............PA.

The cat is out of the bag, lets see some reticle pics already!
Link Posted: 1/2/2021 7:27:30 PM EST
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