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Posted: 10/11/2008 7:51:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/11/2008 7:55:51 PM EDT by mknopfler]
The price is within 20 bucks for 1000 rounds. Which one should I buy, and why ?? If I could afford a case of both right now I wold just get both, but since I cannot....please help me decide.

Thanks for any sane responses.
Link Posted: 10/11/2008 8:00:44 PM EDT
The stuff thats 20 bucks cheaper. Buy 2 mags with it.
Link Posted: 10/11/2008 8:18:17 PM EDT
I just ordered eight 30 round mags for my AR and two 20 round + two 25 round mags for my M1A from 44mag.com  
I'm ready for some ammo now. By your response I guess you think both are equal. Thanks.
Link Posted: 10/11/2008 10:52:56 PM EDT
You should buy the PRVI M855 on sale at wideners.

If you only want LC or Winchester, get whichever is cheaper.  Both should be very high quality.
Link Posted: 10/11/2008 11:31:44 PM EDT
both + new mags
Link Posted: 10/12/2008 5:08:13 PM EDT


**Update**

I ordered the Winchester.
Link Posted: 10/12/2008 6:56:08 PM EDT
where did you order it from?
Link Posted: 10/12/2008 7:11:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/12/2008 7:17:19 PM EDT by mknopfler]
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/product_info.php/pName/1000rds-556-winchester-m855-62gr-penetrator-ammo/cName/223-556-fmj-ammo

It's a bit expensive, but I wanted to stockpile some high quality penetrating type rounds in case of an emergency. You might need something able to cut right through body armor and helmets someday.... Like in case of a U.N. invasion.
Link Posted: 10/12/2008 7:34:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mknopfler:
You might need something able to cut right through body armor and helmets someday.... Like in case of a U.N. invasion.

I agree, I'm down to less than a 1000rds of m-855.

Link Posted: 10/12/2008 9:05:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Cole2534:

Originally Posted By mknopfler:
You might need something able to cut right through body armor and helmets someday.... Like in case of a U.N. invasion.

I agree, I'm down to less than a 1000rds of m-855.



Well...if the UN is wearing current body armor (level III/IV plates)...your M855 won't touch it.  Better get something better....

Maj
Link Posted: 10/12/2008 9:39:33 PM EDT
If that is the case I sure hope my .308 Federal 168 gn Gold Medal will...... coming out of a M1A super match. The damn thing is soooo heavy though.
Link Posted: 10/13/2008 11:29:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mknopfler:
If that is the case I sure hope my .308 Federal 168 gn Gold Medal will...... coming out of a M1A super match. The damn thing is soooo heavy though.


Um, no that .308 won't do the job against current US type armor either. Headshots or abdominal area shots would be a good idea.
Link Posted: 10/13/2008 2:29:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By billclo:

Originally Posted By mknopfler:
If that is the case I sure hope my .308 Federal 168 gn Gold Medal will...... coming out of a M1A super match. The damn thing is soooo heavy though.


Um, no that .308 won't do the job against current US type armor either. Headshots or abdominal area shots would be a good idea.


.308 won't punch through body armor ??  That must be some tough stuff. Do our guys in Iraq have this stuff ??  I hope so.
Link Posted: 10/13/2008 2:44:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mknopfler:

Originally Posted By billclo:

Originally Posted By mknopfler:
If that is the case I sure hope my .308 Federal 168 gn Gold Medal will...... coming out of a M1A super match. The damn thing is soooo heavy though.


Um, no that .308 won't do the job against current US type armor either. Headshots or abdominal area shots would be a good idea.


.308 won't punch through body armor ??  That must be some tough stuff. Do our guys in Iraq have this stuff ??  I hope so.


Yes they're using it.
Link Posted: 10/13/2008 5:50:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mknopfler:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/product_info.php/pName/1000rds-556-winchester-m855-62gr-penetrator-ammo/cName/223-556-fmj-ammo

It's a bit expensive, but I wanted to stockpile some high quality penetrating type rounds in case of an emergency. You might need something able to cut right through body armor and helmets someday.... Like in case of a U.N. invasion.


Wow! That is expensive!

I wonder if my two factory-packed cans of USGI Lake City M855 are worth that much per round?
Link Posted: 10/13/2008 5:59:30 PM EDT
Me, id go with the Winchester as the LC M855 you find is seconds or most likely 3rds as in XM855PD. Winchester will be first teir.

As for the UN with the armor, the plates are fairly small, can with good ammo/gun/shooter get around that. But he is right, they take multiple hits of 308 and i beleive even AP......but all that area around that plate is good to go!
Link Posted: 10/13/2008 6:41:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/13/2008 6:42:44 PM EDT by MajorAR]
Somewhat off topic:

Current (E)SAPI plates are rated at multi-hit 7.62x39 and 7.62x54 AP and lesser threats.    The "older" SAPI plates from the '03-05 era wouldn't stop AP (but will stop M855.)

They do now!

Maj
Link Posted: 10/14/2008 12:55:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By beltfedMGs:
Me, id go with the Winchester as the LC M855 you find is seconds or most likely 3rds as in XM855PD. Winchester will be first teir.


This is the response I was looking for, thank you.
Link Posted: 10/14/2008 4:06:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/14/2008 4:08:53 PM EDT by CRC]

Originally Posted By mknopfler:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/product_info.php/pName/1000rds-556-winchester-m855-62gr-penetrator-ammo/cName/223-556-fmj-ammo

It's a bit expensive, but I wanted to stockpile some high quality penetrating type rounds in case of an emergency. You might need something able to cut right through body armor and helmets someday.... Like in case of a U.N. invasion.


Then M855 ain't that great

Get a 300 Winchester Magnum or larger caliber
Link Posted: 10/14/2008 4:29:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MajorAR:
Somewhat off topic:

Current (E)SAPI plates are rated at multi-hit 7.62x39 and 7.62x54 AP and lesser threats.    The "older" SAPI plates from the '03-05 era wouldn't stop AP (but will stop M855.)

They do now!

Maj


They make SAPI plates for their faces? COOL.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 1:35:34 PM EDT
take pelvis shots
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 3:18:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/16/2008 3:19:16 PM EDT by Venkman]

Originally Posted By Guardian56:
take pelvis shots


"Butters, It aint f*****g cool to shoot a guy in the dick!" [/cartman]
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