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Posted: 10/2/2004 4:48:54 AM EDT
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PLEASE DESCRIBE "TOO MUCH COWITNESSING".
THE ARMS H-K MOUNT WILL IN NO WAY BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE MILSTD 1913 RAIL ON YOUR FLAT TOP. WHAT YOU SHOULD SEE WHEN THE DOT CENTERED IN THE AIMPOINT TUBE IS THE TARGET. THE IRON SIGHTS WILL BE IN THE LOWER THIRD OF YOUR FIELD OF VIEW. WHEN YOU HUNKER DOWN ON YOUR STOCK JUST A FRACTION OF AN INCH AND LINE UP YOUR IRON SIGHTS, THE PARALLAX FREE AIMPOINT DOT WILL BE SITTING ASTRIDE THE TIP OF YOUR FRONT SIGHT POST. HOPE THIS HELPS. WES |
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Posted: 10/2/2004 5:05:03 AM EDT
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It seems that the front and rear sights are now taking up to much space when I look through the aimpoint. Is this the way it is supposed to be? The red dot is inline with the front sight post. Please excuse my ignorance.. I am trying to learn as much as I can. Thanks for the helpful info. I appreciate it!!!
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Posted: 10/2/2004 5:07:25 AM EDT
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Center the dot in the tube. Are the iron sights in the bottome of the tube? I suspect you are not holding your eyes high enough.
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Posted: 10/2/2004 5:46:58 AM EDT
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Ignore the rear sight when using the dot. If you need the irons, just hunker down a bit and use the rear aperature.
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Posted: 10/2/2004 7:40:41 AM EDT
[#5]
The iron sights are in the middle of the tube. I initially zeroed the scope without the rear LMT sight. My line of sight just seems congested since I put the rear sight on. Is it true I need to zero the irons before I should have zeroed the Aimpoint?
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Posted: 10/2/2004 8:47:34 AM EDT
[#6]
Yes. |
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Posted: 10/2/2004 9:10:10 AM EDT
[#7]
You can zero your irons, put on your aimpoint, then rough adjust the dot for you iron zero'd impact point looking through both.
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Posted: 10/2/2004 11:37:22 AM EDT
[#8]
Ok thanks!!
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Posted: 10/2/2004 12:16:10 PM EDT
[#9]
No. Either way is okay. I installed and zeroed my Aimpoint first. A few weeks later I installed the iron sights. To zero the irons, all I had to do was align the front sight blade with the previously-zeroed red dot (a kind of rough bore sighting of the irons). My first live fire shot was in the black with a nine. To zero the irons, I fine tuned from there. |
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Posted: 10/2/2004 12:41:00 PM EDT
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I guess they weren't zero'd then were they? |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 7:12:42 AM EDT
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So from what I understand, co-witnessing is truly shooter preference. With the set up I have using the LMT iron sight , it is something I am going to have to get use too. Are there any advantages/disadvantages in a tactical setting?
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Posted: 10/3/2004 10:15:50 AM EDT
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The advantage in using the LMT over a flip up rear sight is speed. The LMT is always ready to go. One could also make an arguement for durability. |
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Posted: 10/3/2004 10:56:57 AM EDT
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Yes I would say it is quite durable. Thanks for all of the input. There are so many people here that are so helpful.
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Posted: 10/3/2004 11:59:26 AM EDT
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You may want to consider a folding BUIS. ARMS, Troy, etc.. -Justin
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Posted: 10/3/2004 5:10:22 PM EDT
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ian187,
Actually, my point was you can start the installation and zeroing process with either sight system (the Aimpoint or the irons). Neither starting point is superior to the other. Both need to have the final zero determined by live fre on the range. Still, I was surprised at how close I got to being zeroed (about 1 1/2 MOA off) with this simple boresighting technique. When I installed an EOTech, I did it the other way, irons first then the red dot. Both methods work well. |
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Posted: 10/4/2004 9:50:11 AM EDT
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Right now I am using an Aimpoint QD Mount, is the ARMS Cantilever with Spacer Mount higher than the Aimpoint mount? I want to lower my iron sights to the bottom third of my view when looking through the scope.
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Posted: 10/4/2004 10:19:03 AM EDT
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The Aimpoint mount with the spacer (this is what I read you are using right?) is very nearly the same height as the ARMS mount with cantilever spacer. If there is a difference, I dont think it would be very much. I believe the PRI high Aimpoint mount is a little higher than the rest. Not so much that its too high, and you can still co-witness, but I think it is a little higher than the rest.
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Posted: 10/4/2004 12:33:26 PM EDT
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Do you know the website for the PRI mount? Thanks for you input!
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Posted: 10/4/2004 12:37:39 PM EDT
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Could I also add another spacer to my Aimpoint mount to lower the irons LOS into the bottom third? Then I need to find long enough screws.
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Posted: 10/4/2004 5:25:09 PM EDT
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I dont think you can add two spacers in the Aimpoint... I never tried it, but I dont think it would work. Here's a pic of a PRI High Mount... Its from MSTN's page. Also a great place to pick it up. He can probably tell you specific heights between all the mounts. He's good like that!
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Posted: 10/4/2004 5:26:06 PM EDT
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by the way, I always think that gun is sooooooo cool.
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Posted: 10/4/2004 6:01:41 PM EDT
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Yup thats a sweet set up. Unfortunately here in Connecticut we have our own AWB. I cannot do the collapsable stock or suppressor on my post ban Colt M4 Match Target. It really sucks.
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Posted: 10/4/2004 8:11:49 PM EDT
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You're using the Aimpoint with both eyes open, right? |
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Posted: 10/5/2004 6:45:59 PM EDT
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No, am I supposed to?
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Posted: 10/5/2004 6:55:21 PM EDT
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Yes, it makes a huge difference. Try it, you'll pick up on it. |
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Posted: 10/5/2004 6:57:29 PM EDT
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yeah, absolutely use it with both eyes open... its one of the biggest advantages to using the optic...
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Posted: 10/5/2004 7:15:23 PM EDT
[#27]
I never knew that.
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Posted: 10/5/2004 8:03:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2004 2:35:26 AM EDT
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Thanks for the info
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