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Posted: 8/13/2004 12:46:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/13/2004 12:46:00 PM EST by Paul]
What should I mount it on in terms of rings, bases, one piece, quick detach etc.
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 12:30:13 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 12:33:12 PM EST
You might want to wine it and dine it before you try and mount it.
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 12:36:09 PM EST
cableman I KNEW THAT WAS COMING!!!!!!

As far as how I got it, I was waiting on one on the EE for one, but wasn't sure re: reticle and while I was waiting - it sold before I could make up my mind. arfkommer "thejokker" offered me his for under 500 and I grabbed it - not making the same mistake twice. I am REALLY impressed by these, as are others online, and was only really tempted by this and the US optics sn4 (which I'll upgrade to in a few years (weeks).

ATN has a half/half reputation, but IOR cust support is in Denver and has a great record.
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 12:39:44 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 12:42:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By Cableman:
You might want to wine it and dine it before you try and mount it.



Naaaaahhh

She's from Europe.
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 12:45:37 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 12:49:53 PM EST
DPMS flatt op free floating SS bull barrel on an LRB lower.

AHEM AHEM - aimless, you gotta speak your mind for once, don't hold back......

:-)
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 1:06:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/13/2004 1:07:09 PM EST by Aimless]
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 1:16:57 PM EST
I had a 10X56 IOR that was as large (and heavy) as a Louisville Slugger.
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 1:38:19 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 1:50:11 PM EST
does cs gunworks sell mounts for these, or can i use the rock river arms one piece mounts....

The guy I got it from gave me a ridiculouis (sub 500) price, but I might need another one soon. the fixed power M2. I actually wrote you that I was looking for scopes but I never received response.

Link Posted: 8/13/2004 2:06:59 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 2:52:04 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 2:59:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/13/2004 3:00:52 PM EST by CSGunWorkscom]
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 3:57:05 PM EST
The IOR medium QD mounts would work well with that scope...I got a set for my IOR M1 scope, and they're the perfect height for me.

I've been interested in that scope, but just can't afford it. I love the 2 M Series scopes I have, but someone needs to let IOR know the eye relief on both of these isn't long enough. I almost got clocked in the glasses a couple of times with the M1 on my FAL last weekend. They either need to build in more eye relief, or not recess the eye lens so much...either way, it's tough on us old buzzards with glasses.
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 6:19:00 PM EST
I cut down the rubber eye piece on mine so that it just barely makes contact with my glasses when I have a proper cheekweld. Works pretty good so far, since the eye-piece is already in contact there is no tap on your glasses from recoil. Also improves field of view and allows one to get proper eye relief faster when shouldering the rifle when compared to using the standard eye piece.
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 8:15:08 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 8:42:47 PM EST
i want a pic!
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 10:16:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/14/2004 10:17:06 AM EST by 223Rem]

Originally Posted By operatorerror:

Originally Posted By Cableman:
You might want to wine it and dine it before you try and mount it.



Naaaaahhh

She's from Europe.



Yeah, ex-Eastern Bloc too! They'll do just about anyone anything to stays in the US.
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 3:15:07 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 4:41:35 PM EST
Got this on another thread - "The IOR M2 is a 30mm tube, the Armalite 30mm mount EX0022 is just right for it."

But the RRA mount is only 50 bucks new......
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 6:00:44 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 6:50:45 PM EST
IOR specs 3.75" for eye relief.


Originally Posted By MSTN:
COST IS A MEASURE OF VALUE.

WES



[ Devils advocate ]But it's not always an accurate gauge. [ /devils advocate ]

In my order of preference, eye relief issues not being considered.

1) Larue
2) Badger
3) Armalite
4) Leupold Mark 4
5) Arms 22 (only because I'm not a big fan of using their high rings, lows on a proper riser would be ok)
6) Rock River



Link Posted: 8/15/2004 1:09:07 AM EST
what does the larue go for......
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 2:35:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/15/2004 2:39:50 AM EST by MSTN]
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 2:52:19 AM EST
For that price, I can get two sets of ARMS rings for a ROCK SOLID mount, or I could buy a new NEF 308 survivor, or a used lever action or mossberg, or I could get a new TV.

While I don't doubt the quality, nor do I mind PAYING for quality. I think I can find an equal/better mount for less than half of that.
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 4:41:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/15/2004 4:56:54 AM EST by MSTN]
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 5:21:47 AM EST
Hi joe.

Well you're going to have to spend some more bucks in any event , ,
here's my suggestions.

Using NO Rear BUIS - Armalite one piece Mount.




Mount with Built-in rear Buis - ARMS #38 ex (plus you buy rings)




Mount with separate rear Buis - GG & G Scout rail ( you buy Buis and Rings of choice )


Hope this helps
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 5:35:39 AM EST
MSTN . . .. . chill out mon! (jamaican voice)

I said I don't mind paying for quality - I just need to know WHY. You've explained it pretty well, but excuse the knee jerk reaction to the price.

I actually jsut bought a long swan sleeve with a #40 built on, but that's for my M4gery...... I thought keeping the magnified scopes as low as possible was prefereable......

Link Posted: 8/15/2004 5:37:55 AM EST
this is what it's going on....
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 5:46:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/15/2004 5:47:10 AM EST by chapperjoe]
can i get away with a SUPER HEAVY DUTY single ring???
"It is also sufficiently robust to mount one of our M1 or M2 Sporting scopes"
I'm convinced.....

www.valdada.com/vn/ior/05j
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 7:14:42 AM EST
For a proper weld, you might want to get some higher rings than pictured. Just my opinion. -Justin
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 7:55:33 AM EST
nononono, I'm going for a relly low mount. I thought its good to keep line of sight in line with bore???
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 9:41:29 AM EST
It is, but if you can't maintain a comfortable, reliable, and repeatable cheekweld you are wasting your time.
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 10:08:41 AM EST
gotcha......
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 11:09:48 AM EST

can i get away with a SUPER HEAVY DUTY single ring???


That scope looks to be less than ideal for using a single ring. Either place you put it at you'd have the other end bouncing around unsecured.


Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
nononono, I'm going for a relly low mount. I thought its good to keep line of sight in line with bore???



Ideally you'd position it to be as high as the standard iron sights are on the AR15.
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 11:22:00 AM EST
"Ideally you'd position it to be as high as the standard iron sights are on the AR15.

I thought one of the biggest shortcomings of the platform was teh high carry handle/sight system??

High is good?
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 11:31:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/15/2004 11:36:35 AM EST by ICU]
Gun was designed w/ carry handle. They dropped the handle but didnt chage any other ergonomics. Your rings will be 1.4-.5 for best weld. Again, just my opinion. -Justin


I have had both high & med rings on my AR. I still have the high rings.
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 11:31:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/15/2004 11:36:52 AM EST by mongo001]
Here's my IOR M2 mounted with what I believe are PRI high 30mm rings. I got them as "30mm tactical rings" and they look like other PRI rings I have. This setup is rock solid, the PRI rings add to the "tank-like" feel of the whole setup. While not truly quick detach, is comes pretty quick and maintains zero.




Link Posted: 8/15/2004 12:49:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
"Ideally you'd position it to be as high as the standard iron sights are on the AR15.

I thought one of the biggest shortcomings of the platform was teh high carry handle/sight system??

High is good?



Proper height is good.

Do you get a good check weld using iron sights or do you feel that they are too high or too low?

Your answer is in the answer to that question.
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 1:01:44 PM EST
I find iron sights too low - I hate cheek smush.


good point.
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 2:08:34 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 2:24:19 PM EST
Don't fear mike, you're my man when it comes to mounting this puppy. I won't do it without you my word is my bond.

I've never used magnified optics before, so it's an open book for me.

I'm leaning towards that IOR single super mount, but maybe I'll get that first and then if there's wobble I'll buy a second one.

Nothing liek a tank like grip on a tank like scope, eh?
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 6:36:10 PM EST
I've got one of these scopes in for testing, and one thing to keep in mind is the HUGE ocular. I would not recommend trying to mount that scope with just one ring. In addition you'll find that ring too low. I mounted it in a LaRue M4/SPR mount and it works great.....BUT that ocular is so large you need a very low BUIS for it not to hit.
Link Posted: 8/16/2004 5:12:38 AM EST
You've been given really good advice here, more than one person has said not to use a single ring to mount it, I think you will do well to heed it. As to mounting the scope low to the bore, I agree with TNRonin. My SN4 was too low without a riser, resulting in an uncomfortable shooting position. If irons are too low, you have to go with hight rings, or medium height rings with a riser like ARMS #36.
This setup gives me a good cheekweld, the US Optics mount is too low otherwise, to give you an idea.

Link Posted: 8/31/2004 11:49:50 AM EST
Tagged!
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 12:29:33 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 12:39:23 PM EST
I went with the ARMS 22H's by the way.... but I went LaRue for my new TriPower......
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 3:18:50 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 3:21:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2004 11:29:47 AM EST by chapperjoe]
got the rings, got the bag
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