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Posted: 8/22/2005 11:34:40 AM EDT
After reading the posts here and researching a bit, I've decided to start out with a BSA Mil-Dot.  
This one particularly:  www.riflescopes.com/products/MD416X40IR/bsa_4-16x40_mil-dot_riflescope.htm

Is this a good starter scope?  I don't want to go diving into a $300-800 scope right off the bat, because I'm not a very established shooter yet.  It's going to be going on a 20" bushmaster v-match for some 100-200 yard shooting.  What do you guys think?
Link Posted: 8/22/2005 11:40:43 AM EDT
[#1]
Should work fine for what you want to do with it.

I wouldn't expect it to stay zeroed forever, though, judging by price.

WIZZO
Link Posted: 8/22/2005 11:40:43 AM EDT
[#2]
i myself would not trust anything bsa
Link Posted: 8/22/2005 11:44:29 AM EDT
[#3]
I'm really not a huge scope snob...  but imho, that would be $90 wasted.

You would be much better served stepping up a little to a better scope.  Heck if you've already layed out the $$ for a v-match, $200 for a scope shouldn't break you.

Since you're shooting at 100-200 yards, you really don't need a 16x scope.  For $200 or less your could get a 3-9x, American made Burris Fullfield II, which really is a pretty nice optic.

Cheap chinese optics, especially when you get into higher powers, are just that, cheap.

- AG
Link Posted: 8/22/2005 1:05:50 PM EDT
[#4]
+1 on the BSA not even worth that much money. My son got 1 for his .22 rifle and even for his first scope, he was very dissapointed. I'd say save a little more.
Link Posted: 8/22/2005 1:17:38 PM EDT
[#5]
++1

Have a 20" bushie. At first, mouted a $100 BSA Contender 6-24x50. Optics are poor quality and it's about as rugged as a plastic spoon. That said, I should be getting my TA31RCO-A4 in the mail tomorrow. Save up for a Leupold, IOR, trijicon, etc---then you won't be wasting your 90 bucks.
Link Posted: 8/22/2005 3:12:21 PM EDT
[#6]
Link Posted: 8/22/2005 3:17:01 PM EDT
[#7]
I might use BSA on a .22 rimfire but that's about it. They aren't exactly known for quality.
Link Posted: 8/22/2005 8:27:05 PM EDT
[#8]
$20 more gets you a Sigthron S1 3x9x40 mil dot.  Even the cheapest Sightron will have better glass than the BEST BSA.  

Once you get past about 10 or 12x, the cheap scopes REALLY start to look like sh**.  

It's your money, but even at $110, the Sightron is just a better scope, imho.  I have one, and the glass is quite clear and crisp...head and shoulders better than any BSA I've seen.  

Even a Simmons White Tail Classic I'd put higher than that BSA.  
Link Posted: 8/22/2005 8:30:09 PM EDT
[#9]
Buy decent equipment. If you buy a cheap scope when you're a newbie, a decent scope later, and a good scope later on, you've spent a lot of money and have only a good scope to show for it. You could just buy a decent scope to begin with. A Leupold is the cheapest scope I have any interest in, for instance.
Link Posted: 8/22/2005 8:47:25 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Buy decent equipment. If you buy a cheap scope when you're a newbie, a decent scope later, and a good scope later on, you've spent a lot of money and have only a good scope to show for it. You could just buy a decent scope to begin with. A Leupold is the cheapest scope I have any interest in, for instance.



+1 .... the $100 you may save wouldn't seem like a great bargain when your equipment breaks.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 9:42:01 AM EDT
[#11]
After all these good points....I think I'll wait and get something a little better.  Thanks fellas.  Anybody got somethin they want to sell?  
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 9:49:37 AM EDT
[#12]
If it is a budget issue, look on the EE for something used.  You will be able to pick up a decent scope in near new condition (oh no, ring marks!) that should hold zero for a decent price.

ETA:  This site is full of gear addicts who buy the latest and greatest, but like everyone else have limited resources and sell stuff that is still good just because they want something new.  If you hold on and watch, you are going to find something great that will suit you to a T.  
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:32:48 AM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 12:26:21 PM EDT
[#14]
Where in NE Ohio are you?
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 12:40:24 PM EDT
[#15]
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 1:45:19 PM EDT
[#16]
I'm not too far away in Canton.  What kind of range does Tusco have?  I'm waiting for membership approval for the Canton McKinley pistol and rifle club up here.  They have 100 and 200yd rifle.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 1:55:06 PM EDT
[#17]
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 5:17:00 PM EDT
[#18]
Bushnell Elite 3200 fixed 10 power mil-dot with target knobs.  Can be found new at midwayusa or natchezss for around $150. Lifetime warranty and a very decent scope for the money...LL
Link Posted: 8/25/2005 9:35:39 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
After all these good points....I think I'll wait and get something a little better.  Thanks fellas.  Anybody got somethin they want to sell?  



There's a Weaver Grand Slam 3x10x40 in the EE for $200 shipped..that's a GREAT scope for the money.  I think it will do everyting you need it to, and you won't need to replace it with anything better next year.  If I wasn't in the middle of pimping out my DPMS .308, I would have snagged this scope already.  

I have a GS in 6x20x40, and it's a great scope.  
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