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Posted: 6/27/2015 1:50:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/27/2015 1:54:07 PM EDT by chomes1]
If you pull the trigger of your AR while a rope gun lock is on it and safety off, will it hurt anything?  Is it bad for the rifle in any way?  Obviously, I'm talking about rifle unloaded and locked with one of the red rope gun locks.  Thanks
Link Posted: 6/27/2015 1:52:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/27/2015 3:12:22 PM EDT by minion42]
ETA: I see, you meant dry-fire.

Still not sure how you'd do it, though.
Link Posted: 6/27/2015 1:55:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/27/2015 1:59:52 PM EDT by chomes1]
Yes.  I'm not talking about firing a live round.  Dry fire with a cable/rope lock on it.
Link Posted: 6/27/2015 2:04:20 PM EDT
I don't know why you would, but no.
Link Posted: 6/27/2015 2:08:09 PM EDT
Dry firing without the upper...allowing the hammer to strike the bolt release/back of the maxwell... is never a good idea.
Link Posted: 6/27/2015 2:09:37 PM EDT
Sounds like a bad idea with no reward.
Link Posted: 6/27/2015 2:35:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cms81586:
Dry firing without the upper...allowing the hammer to strike the bolt release/back of the maxwell... is never a good idea.
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No.  The upper is on.  I'm talking about an unloaded, full rifle with a cable/rope lock.  You can still dry fire it.  Dry firing JUST the lower without the upper is always a no-no.
Link Posted: 6/27/2015 2:58:46 PM EDT
why would you do that and not just take it off?
Link Posted: 6/27/2015 3:01:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chomes1:

No.  The upper is on.  I'm talking about an unloaded, full rifle with a cable/rope lock.  You can still dry fire it.  Dry firing JUST the lower without the upper is always a no-no.
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Originally Posted By chomes1:
Originally Posted By cms81586:
Dry firing without the upper...allowing the hammer to strike the bolt release/back of the maxwell... is never a good idea.

No.  The upper is on.  I'm talking about an unloaded, full rifle with a cable/rope lock.  You can still dry fire it.  Dry firing JUST the lower without the upper is always a no-no.



How is the rope lock attached?

This is how it is supposed to be:




You will not be able to fire the rifle with a rope lock
Link Posted: 6/27/2015 3:29:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/27/2015 3:32:43 PM EDT by chomes1]
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Originally Posted By zackmars:



How is the rope lock attached?

This is how it is supposed to be:

<a href="http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/zackmarrs/media/Mobile%20Uploads/40110000_zpsxxwokl5k.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah77/zackmarrs/Mobile%20Uploads/40110000_zpsxxwokl5k.jpg</a>


You will not be able to fire the rifle with a rope lock
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Originally Posted By zackmars:
Originally Posted By chomes1:
Originally Posted By cms81586:
Dry firing without the upper...allowing the hammer to strike the bolt release/back of the maxwell... is never a good idea.

No.  The upper is on.  I'm talking about an unloaded, full rifle with a cable/rope lock.  You can still dry fire it.  Dry firing JUST the lower without the upper is always a no-no.



How is the rope lock attached?

This is how it is supposed to be:

<a href="http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/zackmarrs/media/Mobile%20Uploads/40110000_zpsxxwokl5k.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah77/zackmarrs/Mobile%20Uploads/40110000_zpsxxwokl5k.jpg</a>


You will not be able to fire the rifle with a rope lock


You can still pull the trigger and bring it home assuming the bolt isn't locked back.  That's what I'm talking about.  If you put a lock like that on your rifle, take it off safety and try pulling the trigger.  The hammer releases.  Click.  I'm asking if doing that is in any way bad or can harm your firearm.  
Link Posted: 6/27/2015 4:50:18 PM EDT
Why? Just take the lock off if you want to dry fire. And throw the lock in the trash while you're at it.
Link Posted: 6/27/2015 5:21:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chomes1:


You can still pull the trigger and bring it home assuming the bolt isn't locked back.  That's what I'm talking about.  If you put a lock like that on your rifle, take it off safety and try pulling the trigger.  The hammer releases.  Click.  I'm asking if doing that is in any way bad or can harm your firearm.  
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Originally Posted By chomes1:
Originally Posted By zackmars:
Originally Posted By chomes1:
Originally Posted By cms81586:
Dry firing without the upper...allowing the hammer to strike the bolt release/back of the maxwell... is never a good idea.

No.  The upper is on.  I'm talking about an unloaded, full rifle with a cable/rope lock.  You can still dry fire it.  Dry firing JUST the lower without the upper is always a no-no.



How is the rope lock attached?

This is how it is supposed to be:

<a href="http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/zackmarrs/media/Mobile%20Uploads/40110000_zpsxxwokl5k.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah77/zackmarrs/Mobile%20Uploads/40110000_zpsxxwokl5k.jpg</a>


You will not be able to fire the rifle with a rope lock


You can still pull the trigger and bring it home assuming the bolt isn't locked back.  That's what I'm talking about.  If you put a lock like that on your rifle, take it off safety and try pulling the trigger.  The hammer releases.  Click.  I'm asking if doing that is in any way bad or can harm your firearm.  



Injust tried that with my rifle, and the trigger pull is completely different


I see no point or reason to do this, just remove the lock
Link Posted: 6/27/2015 5:50:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chomes1:


You can still pull the trigger and bring it home assuming the bolt isn't locked back.  That's what I'm talking about.  If you put a lock like that on your rifle, take it off safety and try pulling the trigger.  The hammer releases.  Click.  I'm asking if doing that is in any way bad or can harm your firearm.  
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Originally Posted By chomes1:
Originally Posted By zackmars:
Originally Posted By chomes1:
Originally Posted By cms81586:
Dry firing without the upper...allowing the hammer to strike the bolt release/back of the maxwell... is never a good idea.

No.  The upper is on.  I'm talking about an unloaded, full rifle with a cable/rope lock.  You can still dry fire it.  Dry firing JUST the lower without the upper is always a no-no.



How is the rope lock attached?

This is how it is supposed to be:

<a href="http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/zackmarrs/media/Mobile%20Uploads/40110000_zpsxxwokl5k.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah77/zackmarrs/Mobile%20Uploads/40110000_zpsxxwokl5k.jpg</a>


You will not be able to fire the rifle with a rope lock


You can still pull the trigger and bring it home assuming the bolt isn't locked back.  That's what I'm talking about.  If you put a lock like that on your rifle, take it off safety and try pulling the trigger.  The hammer releases.  Click.  I'm asking if doing that is in any way bad or can harm your firearm.  



Just take the lock off and do it properly. It's 6 seconds of work.
Link Posted: 6/27/2015 5:56:02 PM EDT

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Why? Just take the lock off if you want to dry fire. And throw the lock in the trash while you're at it.
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+1
Link Posted: 6/27/2015 6:06:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/27/2015 6:06:57 PM EDT by chomes1]
I was simply curious whether it could hurt anything or not.  Obviously, it's pointless and not something I do, but I was just wondering if there's any harm done to the rifle, not whether it's good idea or not to do.
Link Posted: 6/27/2015 6:31:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chomes1:
I was simply curious whether it could hurt anything or not.  Obviously, it's pointless and not something I do, but I was just wondering if there's any harm done to the rifle, not whether it's good idea or not to do.
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No, I don't think you'll hurt your weapon.
Link Posted: 6/27/2015 6:45:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/27/2015 6:49:02 PM EDT by Krashdog]
Your hammer would be smaking into the bottom edge of the bolt carrier grounp instead of the rear of the firing pin. So...... yes, eventually it could perhaps Nick the hammer.

so technically yes, it's putting stress where it doesn't belong. Realistically no, the parts are steel and not able to move full travel.

for derp avoidance , don't do it
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 11:28:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Krashdog:
Your hammer would be smaking into the bottom edge of the bolt carrier grounp instead of the rear of the firing pin. So...... yes, eventually it could perhaps Nick the hammer.

so technically yes, it's putting stress where it doesn't belong. Realistically no, the parts are steel and not able to move full travel.

for derp avoidance , don't do it
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Thanks!  Bump?
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 2:32:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By chomes1:

Thanks!  Bump?
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Originally Posted By chomes1:
Originally Posted By Krashdog:
Your hammer would be smaking into the bottom edge of the bolt carrier grounp instead of the rear of the firing pin. So...... yes, eventually it could perhaps Nick the hammer.

so technically yes, it's putting stress where it doesn't belong. Realistically no, the parts are steel and not able to move full travel.

for derp avoidance , don't do it

Thanks!  Bump?


Don't do it.

Also, for added safety with the rope lock, run it behind the trigger as well. That way you won't even be tempted to dry fire it with the lock on.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 4:04:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/30/2015 4:04:01 AM EDT by Aimless]
what?
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