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Posted: 1/2/2003 1:07:50 PM EDT
Some of you may have read in my earlier posts that I am frustrated with the RRA tactical carry handle that is permanently attached to my receiver.  It really limits the type optics I can use.  I presently have an Aimpoint ML2 mounted.

I want magnification!  With my eyes not being the best, I would like to be able to shoot out past 100yds.  The carry handle doesn't seem to allow for the mounting of conventional scopes.  I was thinking of a 3X compact ACOG.  

Any thoughts would be appreciated

Link Posted: 1/2/2003 2:51:06 PM EDT
You might be able to mount a scope to it, if you're careful about the ring height and can fit the rings around the turrets.  Probably won't be able to use the irons anymore, and it may be too high for a good cheekweld.

Don't know about the ACOG, but I'd guess that you could put one on there.  Like anything that's designed for a flattop, it'll be really high, but maybe no worse than a regular carry-handle mounted one.

Link Posted: 1/2/2003 3:37:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/2/2003 3:40:03 PM EDT by LastDefender]
I believe this is the mount you would need for a compact ACOG.  It is designed for the carry handle style Compact ACOG....[img]http://www.trijicon.com/parts/31E6.jpg[/img]
Like was mentioned previously, I think the check weld would be suspect as would the fact that you would have to clear the rear sight for this set-up to be useful.  You may find it simpler to just sell the upper and start over.  This may require you to endure a slight loss but most likely will avoid you compounding an error by trying to "create" and optics fix.  Remember, the beauty of the AR platform is it's modularity.  

Good luck...
Link Posted: 1/2/2003 4:13:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/2/2003 4:22:24 PM EDT by 223Rem]

If you decide on a compact ACOG and it's going to be mounted strictly on your RRA upper, I would consider a compact that uses the special rings, not the M16/AR15 Base.  These models use a special ring to mount the ACOG directly to the rail.  Plus the rings come in 3 heights.

For example:

[url=http://www.trijicon.com/user/parts/products1.cfm?PartID=214]Trijicon Compact TA39R-6[/url]
[url=http://www.trijicon.com/user/parts/products1.cfm?PartID=224]Trijicon Medium Flattop Ring MM08[/url]

Saves some weight too.  With the TA-60 flattop mount, not sure if it will fit the RRA rail and mostlikely be way too high for proper cheek weld.  

I have been banging my head for two weeks since I got the thumbs up to purchase an ACOG, on what model.  Now it's just a question of who's got what in stock.

Link Posted: 1/2/2003 5:28:22 PM EDT
While the TA60/M16 base combo is great for a flat top, I agree with 223Rem that it would be too high on your receiver.  The special rings would be a better bet.

I also agree with LastDefender that you should ditch the receiver.  New flat tops are only $100 or so; there is probably a local ar15.com member who could help you switch it out.  The TA60 mount on a flat top is really a great setup.

I had the 3x ACOG and really liked it; the only downside is the very limited eye relief.  You need to be comfortable shooting with your nose touching the carry handle, or maybe even a little more forward than that.
Link Posted: 1/3/2003 3:49:09 PM EDT

Taking a look at both the mounting options and the pic I posted of the weapon in question, do you feel that sydney7629 would even be able to use the compact ACOG given it's limited eye relief?  You would have to find a mount that lifts the whole ACOG over the top of the rear sight I would suspect.  I feel the Compact ACOG with this weapon is a bad combination.    

Link Posted: 1/3/2003 11:04:31 PM EDT
Well, after deliberating about this for as long as I have, I'm going to just get a new flattop upper receiver.  I can now see why I got such a good deal on the gun.

Thanks everyone for your help.  By the way, feel free to post any pictures of flattop carbines with magnified optics to give me ideas on which way to go.

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