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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:16:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/14/2004 12:07:01 PM EST by RagingRob]
I've been tracking this site for some time now, and it never ceases to amaze me at the rivalry that exists between AR enthusiasts. It was only after a recent Colt bashing thread that I decided to register and add my two cents. Unfortunately, I did not realize that registering was not an instant
process and the topic has faded and it is not my intent to re-open a wound, but lets be reasonable, differences of opinion are what make our US of A so great. What kind of country would this be if we all drove the same kind of car, lived in the same type of house and wore the same clothes?
Since the AWB expired I have coverted my Colt mt6400c from a post-ban plinker into a battle ready home defense system, and I enjoy it just fine . In the future I will probably own other brands, but I'm o.k. for now, sure Colt may not have the best customer service to civilians but in a free country they can market to who ever they desire. To sum this up, let me just say that ... In this great country of ours it is our right to own an AR, but it is a priviledge to own a Colt AR!

Bad people MUST be punished.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:24:03 AM EST
You are an Ass.

J/K

People here like to bash on others, In the end we all still hate like each other.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:30:03 AM EST
First, Welcome to AR15.COM.

Second, I don't think it's any more a privilege to own a Colt than any other firearm. I have nothing against Colt (really don't give a rat's ass about their marketing/distribution practices) but to say it is a privilege to own a Colt over a Bushmaster, Armalite or any other quality AR just shows you are just as biased as the people you just stated amazed you with their brand rivalry. Nothing wrong with that, mind you, but let's just be clear on that.

Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:30:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 6:32:04 AM EST by _DR]
Oh, I forgot to mention: never take anything personally here!
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:32:12 AM EST
Hey I could have trapped him, but I chose not to.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 6:33:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By RagingRob:
To sum this up, let me just say that ... In this great country of ours it is our right to own an AR, but it is a priviledge to own a Colt AR!





this oughtta be good
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 7:00:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By _DR:
First, Welcome to AR15.COM.

Second, I don't think it's any more a privilege to own a Colt than any other firearm. I have nothing against Colt (really don't give a rat's ass about their marketing/distribution practices) but to say it is a privilege to own a Colt over a Bushmaster, Armalite or any other quality AR just shows you are just as biased as the people you just stated amazed you with their brand rivalry. Nothing wrong with that, mind you, but let's just be clear on that.



+1 - It's a privilege to own any AR!
+1 - Never take anything here personally!
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 7:49:23 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/13/2004 7:57:23 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 7:57:46 AM EST by JBritt]

Originally Posted By DBAR:

Originally Posted By _DR:
First, Welcome to AR15.COM.

Second, I don't think it's any more a privilege to own a Colt than any other firearm. I have nothing against Colt (really don't give a rat's ass about their marketing/distribution practices) but to say it is a privilege to own a Colt over a Bushmaster, Armalite or any other quality AR just shows you are just as biased as the people you just stated amazed you with their brand rivalry. Nothing wrong with that, mind you, but let's just be clear on that.



+1 - It's a privilege to own any AR!
+1 - Never take anything here personally!



It is not a privilege to own any AR! It is a RIGHT. Seriously
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:08:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By wedge1082:
Hey I could have trapped him, but I chose not to.



That was big of you, it could have been bigame, but that would be illegal....
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:22:59 AM EST
Wow! You guys hit hard!! But nothing personal taken here, just having some fun.

B­ad people MUST be punished.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:36:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 8:42:40 AM EST by El_Roto]
Welcome aboard.

Now that you've pointed it out it's obvious that your last sentence was meant to be sarcastic. Good one.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:48:40 AM EST
I know Roto, but I always like to make a grand entrance...kinda like kicking a trash can when I walk into someones office. I would not have subscribed if I did'nt respect all of everyones efforts with this site. You guys are great!



Bad people MUST be punished.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:59:13 AM EST
The "I know Roto" was in response to Roto's advice to me in using symbols to show my sarcasism.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:09:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By RagingRob:
The "I know Roto" was in response to Roto's advice to me in using symbols to show my sarcasism.



Welcome, RagingRob.

In the future, if you want to reference someone's comments, just click the "Quote" box on the right and their comments will appear in your text box like I did with yours.

It makes it a little easier to tell what you are refering too.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:12:05 AM EST
Welcome aboard Fellow Colt Head...........there are a few of us around here
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:16:31 AM EST
One Colt AR - A GOOD START! Buy (or build) more AR's...MadDog(760)

Welcome to ar15.com
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 10:04:29 AM EST




In the future, if you want to reference someone's comments, just click the "Quote" box on the right and their comments will appear in your text box like I did with yours.




Thanks, I'll do my best to catch on...But sometimes it takes me an hour and a half just to watch "60 Minutes".
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 10:06:45 AM EST
oops that did'nt work...see what I mean.hinking.gif
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 10:09:28 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 10:10:24 AM EST by El_Roto]
Poor, Ragin'! I have the habit of posting and then editing...about 5 times in 4 minutes! He read one of those 'tween posts. I changed it after I realized I was being a d*ck for giving an obviously intelligent guy a lesson on how to use smilies.

I'm gonna sit in the corner now.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 10:16:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By El_Roto:
Poor, Ragin'! I have the habit of posting and then editing...about 5 times in 4 minutes! He read one of those 'tween posts. hanged

I'm gonna sit in the corner now. hr


You can come out of the corner Roto. Never overestimate a guy with a sense of humor like mine.
Thanks anyway though.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:44:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By RagingRob:
oops that did'nt work...see what I mean.



What the heck. I'm always willing to work with a willing learner.

Go to my latest comment and click the "Quote" box on my comment you want to quote.

It will then appear in your new text box and you can delete any part you want too.

No charge for the lesson.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:52:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:

Originally Posted By RagingRob:
oops that did'nt work...see what I mean.hinking.gif



What the heck. I'm always willing to work with a willing learner. hemy
comment you want to quote.

It will then appear in your new text box and you can delete any part you want too.

No charge for the lesson.hr


Thanks!!!
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:58:24 AM EST
guns are no different then cars, electronics or any other "guy toy" You're always going to have the proverbial mines bigger contest. Viper guys talk shit to Vette guys, Vette guys talk shit to Rustangs and so forth. I own both, I prefer the Bushmaster, just my opinion. The Colt holds the value better but that's only do to the fact that some guys are crazy enough to pay more for the pony.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 12:13:55 PM EST

Originally Posted By 02Overlander:





some guys are crazy enough to pay more for the pony.



crazy...a little...but satisfaction is sweet.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 12:20:16 PM EST
Welcome aboard!
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 12:51:04 PM EST
It is also a priviledge to be among such understanding and open minded people here on ARFCOM.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 1:39:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 1:40:35 PM EST by gmtmaster]
I dont consider it a priveledge to pay a premium for a name. My Bushmaster will beat up your Colt any day of the week.. In fact I like Bushmaster so much I bought 3, and I like Oly enough to own 1.

Dont own a Colt though..
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 1:41:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 1:41:37 PM EST by RAMBOSKY]

Originally Posted by gmtmaster: ".............. My Bushmaster will beat up your Colt any day of the week."


Link Posted: 10/13/2004 1:52:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 5:19:10 PM EST by RagingRob]

Originally Posted By gmtmaster:
I dont consider it a priveledge to pay a premium for a name. My Bushmaster will beat up your Colt any day of the week




Please define and elaborate on "beat up".
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:43:53 PM EST
hey..while Colt and Bushmaster might be the two companies most associated with AR-15 manufacture (to most people, not all), just remember..if Armalite didn't design it and sell it to Colt due to financial problems, we wouldn't HAVE our ARs!hug.gif

Proud to own an Armalite M15 A2...but I respect and still love all others!

Kevhug.gif
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:54:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 8:56:03 PM EST by model927]
The now Armalite is not the original armalite,in name only not company but I get the jistMy full size is an M15 just got rebarreled with a 1/7 govt profile A2 now its a proper CMP rifle.
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 12:56:39 AM EST
If it don't say AR/15 on it then is it an AR/15? I just bought a R6551 Colt sporter target!

So no I don't own an AR/15,but I got a Sporter that shoots real quick like!!

Bob
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 2:51:06 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 4:46:27 AM EST
Ummmmm I have a Colt and a Bushie and working on a 2nd Bushie and I love them all equally. When the rounds are going downrange the Name on the receiver is not too important.
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 5:42:08 AM EST
RagingRob, let me add my Welcome. As you can see, you need a thick skin and an flame suit here at times, but it is really a great Forum - lots of knowledge, if you can seperate wheat from chaff. And a more helpful bunch you will never see!

And being a primary Colt partisan - note that I wear it on my sleeve just so no one will be taken unawares - glad to hear you got a "real" M4. The only way to fly.

The fun part for us Colt guys is that the vituperation is mostly envy - or ignorance. Either way, we aren't overly bothered by the unenlightened. They'll figure it out, if they ever use their rifles hard enough. The LE and .mil Professionals already know the score.

So take no crap from anyone as a Colt owner - the differences are real and measurable. Better metal, correct, fighting tolerances and properly made parts are hard to argue with. Colt is a manufacturer, not just an assembler that buys their parts by the pound and has orangutans assembling them. They control their entire manufacturing process because the US Military requires all the material checks, gauging and proofing. The civilian buyer gets the benefit of having a gun made to a higher standard - in a factory that makes guns for war - not posturing. You can rest assured that Colts are being fired "in anger" by our wonderful forces in the fight for a better world and giving a good account of themselves every day. No company employing fallible human beings can ever be 100%, but Colt makes the best guns overall by a wide margin. Mudslinging by those who haven't looked into the subject deeply can't change that.

So welcome aboard - and don't take ANY of this too personally, just have fun with it.

Warmly, Col. Colt

Certified Law Enforcement Firearms Trainer
Certified Glock, Colt and Remington LE Armorer

PS - It is YOUR Right - and a Privilege - to own a Colt!
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 5:56:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By Col_Colt:
RagingRob, let me add my Welcome. As you can see, you need a thick skin and an flame suit here at times, but it is really a great Forum - lots of knowledge, if you can seperate wheat from chaff. And a more helpful bunch you will never see!

And being a primary Colt partisan - note that I wear it on my sleeve just so no one will be taken unawares - glad to hear you got a "real" M4. The only way to fly.

The fun part for us Colt guys is that the vituperation is mostly envy - or ignorance. Either way, we aren't overly bothered by the unenlightened. They'll figure it out, if they ever use their rifles hard enough. The LE and .mil Professionals already know the score.

So take no crap from anyone as a Colt owner - the differences are real and measurable. Better metal, correct, fighting tolerances and properly made parts are hard to argue with. Colt is a manufacturer, not just an assembler that buys their parts by the pound and has orangutans assembling them. They control their entire manufacturing process because the US Military requires all the material checks, gauging and proofing. The civilian buyer gets the benefit of having a gun made to a higher standard - in a factory that makes guns for war - not posturing. You can rest assured that Colts are being fired "in anger" by our wonderful forces in the fight for a better world and giving a good account of themselves every day. No company employing fallible human beings can ever be 100%, but Colt makes the best guns overall by a wide margin. Mudslinging by those who haven't looked into the subject deeply can't change that.

So welcome aboard - and don't take ANY of this too personally, just have fun with it.

Warmly, Col. Colt

Certified Law Enforcement Firearms Trainer
Certified Glock, Colt and Remington LE Armorer

PS - It is YOUR Right - and a Privilege - to own a Colt!




eloquent and poetic...I'm all choked up...Thanks
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 3:04:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/14/2004 3:08:13 PM EST by pigmypuncher]
Originally Posted By Col_Colt:
...So take no crap from anyone as a Colt owner - the differences are real and measurable. Better metal, correct, fighting tolerances and properly made parts are hard to argue with. Colt is a manufacturer, not just an assembler that buys their parts by the pound and has orangutans assembling them. quote]

Your are correct, they are chimpanzees special trained by the lowest outsourced bidder to provide you - the American Fighting Soldier the cheapest rifle on contract based on specs from the 1960's. Let’s see, I can pay top dollar for the cheapest bidder or shop around and find another mfg that can improve the specs... Tough choice.. jk

how
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Link Posted: 10/14/2004 3:16:24 PM EST

Originally Posted By pigmypuncher:
Your are correct, they are chimpanzees special trained by the lowest outsourced bidder to provide you - the American Fighting Soldier the cheapest rifle on contract based on specs from the 1960's. Let’s see, I can pay top dollar for the cheapest bidder or shop around and find another mfg that can improve the specs... Tough choice.. jk

how
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Eagles may fly, but weasels don’t get sucked into jet engines!




Say what you will, it's just nice to hear that you are back to wearing mens clothing.
Sincerely, Colt Fan.
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 4:05:32 PM EST
pigmypuncher,

Does your Mommy know what web sites you visit?
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 3:31:39 PM EST
Let's not forget that the Sony Beta Max videocassette player performed better than the VHS units back when VCRs were a new thing.

Like Colt, They deviated from the standard (Colt with it's odd sized FCG pins)
Like Colt, They place a monetary premium on their technology (read: Overpriced).
Like Colt, Ownership was limited to a relatively small portion of the population, afficionados if you will.
Like Colt, It was harder to find parts and when you did, they were ungodly expensive.


Although Sony continued on, the Beta Max disappeared into the bottomless abyss that swallows failed products, good ones as well as bad, now to be seen only in museums and collectors closets.

The Colt AR15 Rifle will meet a similar fate if Colt management does not pull their heads out of their collective asses.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 3:45:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By _DR:
Let's not forget that the Sony Beta Max videocassette player performed better than the VHS units back when VCRs were a new thing.

Like Colt, They deviated from the standard (Colt with it's odd sized FCG pins)
Like Colt, They place a monetary premium on their technology (read: Overpriced).
Like Colt, Ownership was limited to a relatively small portion of the population, afficionados if you will.
Like Colt, It was harder to find parts and when you did, they were ungodly expensive.


Although Sony continued on, the Beta Max disappeared into the bottomless abyss that swallows failed products, good ones as well as bad, now to be seen only in museums and collectors closets.

The Colt AR15 Rifle will meet a similar fate if Colt management does not pull their heads out of their collective asses.



I know what you're saying, my neighbor was sold on Beta, now he's sold on McIntosh ...I understand your point and thank you for your obvious passion for the AR, but there is a couple of conflicts going on around our globe right now which Colt has contractual obligations to.... I'm sure of this fact, if we were in peace times right now, Colt would be catering to the general public in a BIG way.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 4:09:53 PM EST
welcome ragingbob, and I understand your comments

we all walk to a different beat

Colt is awesome, just like Bushmaster

Link Posted: 10/15/2004 4:17:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By redfisher:
welcome ragingbob, and I understand your comments

we all walk to a different beat

Colt is awesome, just like Bushmaster




Thanks redfisher, its just awesome to own an AR. I think that people lose the reality of our freedom here in the US. I've lived other places that did not have such freedom.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 5:58:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2004 6:09:19 AM EST by pigmypuncher]

Originally Posted By RagingRob:

Say what you will, it's just nice to hear that you are back to wearing mens clothing.
Sincerely, Colt Fan. hr


NS! ROFLMAO - the wife just gave them back to me since she's going out of town! Unfortunately, I have to give them back when she returns hat_________________________________________________________________

Eagles may fly, but weasels don’t get sucked into jet engines!
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 7:03:10 AM EST
Welcome, regardless of your choice of ARs you own, as long as you own them.


GM
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 9:05:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/16/2004 10:13:07 AM EST by RagingRob]

Originally Posted By pigmypuncher:

Originally Posted By RagingRob:

Say what you will, it's just nice to hear that you are back to wearing mens clothing.
Sincerely, Colt Fan.



NS! ROFLMAO - the wife just gave them back to me since she's going out of town! Unfortunately, I have to give them back when she returns ...

And no, that's not my prision wife...



You had a prison wife?...nevermind...let's not go there.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 10:03:38 AM EST
Iam with Col.Colt!!!!
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 10:08:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By badhand1:
Iam with Col.Colt!!!!



I am too, we salute you Col. Colt.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 10:13:38 AM EST
Colt sux, you can have all of them.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 2:06:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By die-tryin:
Colt sux, you can have all of them.



Sorry die-tryin, I could not find "sux" in the dictionary...I did see a nice picture of you though, under the word "surly".
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