I have both, so I'm not attached to any position. However, first it was 1/14, then 1/12, then 1/7 as a result of the M856 tracer and M855 round, then 1/9, now 1/7 and 1/8. Is this much to do about little or nothing between 1/7 and 1/9 (except of course, for those of you who shoot alot of M856 tracers)? And if 1/7 does everything a 1/9 does, and better (per 1/7 adherents), then why did Colt, Bushmaster, RRA, etc. waste the time and tooling on a 1/9? I mean, I figure these manufacturers would know better than us as to what the best twist is for 55-70 gr. (which is what most of us shoot). To hear the banter, you'd think the 1/9 was a useless twist with 1/7 around. But if this is so, why does 1/9 even exist and why would barrel makers waste the time? Just curious. I guess the AR15 to us is like a chick's handbag, jewelry, accessories, etc. Lots and lots of doodads, products, and fads that come and go. I'd say about 25% of these doodads and fads have merit.