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Posted: 3/29/2009 10:10:11 AM EDT
A box of this was recently given to me. I believe it is SMG ammo. The box has 5 stripper clips w/ 8rnds each. Headstamp has a 10, a 50, what looks like a star, and what looks like a circle with a + over it. It also appears to be steel jacketed as a magnet will stick. Anybody have any ideas?




Link Posted: 3/29/2009 11:37:29 AM EDT
From what I can see from the pics and your description, what you have is some Chech 9mm SMG ammo. I could be wrong, but it seems at 1 time over the past 20 yrs or so when I was collecting ammo I had some of these. This is like a +p+ round, and I think they might be steel cored, like the German 9mm stuff from WW2. I could be wrong, but I might be right too!! 8 ^ ))
Link Posted: 3/29/2009 1:47:07 PM EDT
Thanks for the info. I would assume that a light diet of them wouldn't hurt a Glock.
Link Posted: 3/29/2009 2:33:18 PM EDT
It's packed just like my Czech 7.62x25mm, right down to the stripper clips (the one I have in front of me is dated 51 instead of 50 like the ones in your picture). The Czechs are known for making excellent arms and ammo. Don't know how well your Glock would do with +P+ ammo, though.
Link Posted: 3/29/2009 5:38:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By securitysix:
It's packed just like my Czech 7.62x25mm, right down to the stripper clips (the one I have in front of me is dated 51 instead of 50 like the ones in your picture). The Czechs are known for making excellent arms and ammo. Don't know how well your Glock would do with +P+ ammo, though.
Agreed.
It could potentially be SMG ammo loaded to really high pressure.
I wouldn't risk shooting it

Link Posted: 3/29/2009 5:42:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HoseDraggar:
Thanks for the info. I would assume that a light diet of them wouldn't hurt a Glock.

You could probably sell the old stuff to a collector and buy new production ammo and still come out ahead.
Link Posted: 3/29/2009 5:44:44 PM EDT
a beretta will eat it right up
Link Posted: 3/30/2009 12:48:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/30/2009 12:53:59 AM EDT by Animal_Farm]
It is bound to be Czech, 1950 production 9mm Parabellum. Probably intended for one of the Czech subguns, and probably loaded hot.
I would save it. Maybe pull the bullets on some to see if they are steel core. The WWII German steel-core 9mm bullets that I have weighed were about 92gr IIRC. The Czech steel-core should be more or less a direct copy of it.
They aren't likely to be extremely collectible, but would be worth more as a collectors item than they are as shooting fodder. Paticularly with new production 9mm being relatively cheap at the moment. Plus, it is a pretty safe bet that they have corrosive primers.

Edit- Here is a link to a place selling some Czech ammo that sounds very close to what you have. http://www.ammo-one.com/9mmLugerPage6.html

-Allen
Link Posted: 3/30/2009 2:06:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/30/2009 2:08:40 AM EDT by m200maker]
If you stand it up next to a 9mm and it's a little longer, then it's a .32 Super what do I win?
Link Posted: 3/30/2009 2:51:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/30/2009 3:01:06 AM EDT by osprey21]
It's Czech.




Link Posted: 3/30/2009 5:32:26 AM EDT
"it is a pretty safe bet that they have corrosive primers"

Yep, corrosive as hell. Ate the rifling out a friend's Sten overnight when he failed to clean it. Do as others suggest & sell it to a collector. There was tons of this stuff around up to the '70s, not so much now.
Link Posted: 3/30/2009 6:31:11 AM EDT
Guys, thanks for all the replies. I'll just hang on to it or sell it. I was just going to shoot some for the novelty of it, but ya'lls better judgment has talked me out of it. It's neat to know what I've got though. I tried google, but couldn't come up with much. As usual, Arfcom knows all.
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