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Posted: 8/23/2005 4:09:43 PM EDT
I don't see why it won't work. Just use a router and some hand tools. What's the worstthing that could happen? The buffer tube fall off?
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 4:12:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Jimmy_Hoffa:
I don't see why it won't work. Just use a router and some hand tools. What's the worstthing that could happen? The buffer tube fall off?



DUPE.......

Been asked/covered many times before. AR15+wood=not generally a good idea.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 5:56:36 AM EDT
I was thinking about this the other day, but hadn't gotten around to searching the archive.

My idea was a wood lower with a metal insert running from the front detent pin holes, around the mag well and fire control components (to support the pins) and back to the buffer tube (to provide metal support and threads for the buffer tube.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 6:05:13 AM EDT
Given the softness of some of the polymer lowers, I don't see why this couldnt work. It wouldn't handle the abuse of an aluminum lower, but would look awful good.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 6:14:50 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 6:18:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:
Wouldn't paper mache be easier to work with?



Fiberglass and bondo?
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 6:21:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:
Wouldn't paper mache be easier to work with?





or legos... you could super glue them together. Hell, legos are made out of a "polymer".

Please, please, please someone put together a Lego Lower and post pics of it mated up to an upper... that picture would be priceless!

- AG
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 6:21:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/24/2005 6:22:02 AM EDT by PBIR]

Originally Posted By Jimmy_Hoffa:
I don't see why it won't work. Just use a router and some hand tools. What's the worstthing that could happen? The buffer tube fall off?



Good luck. It will look sweet if you can pull it off (sounds like a hell of a lot of work to cut the dimensions right with hand tools. I would worry about stress fractures where the buffer tube attaches as well as the pivot pin holes. Maybe you could reinforce there too.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 6:39:07 AM EDT
I predict receiver extension ejection in the first mag or two.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 6:42:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mongo001:
I predict receiver extension ejection in the first mag or two.



Just be sure to post pics......of it sticking out of your shoulder on your way to the hospital.



WIZZO
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 6:56:00 AM EDT
It would be cool to do one just for display though.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 7:01:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PBIR:
It would be cool to do one just for display though.



Ya, make one with wood receivers and aluminum handguards, buttstock and pistol grip.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 10:29:20 AM EDT
A couple of years ago someone posted on here saying that they had done it and included some
well photoshopped pics. I'm suprised no one has presented us w/ a real AR w/ a 'faux' wood finish.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 10:33:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SHIPSNIPE1:
A couple of years ago someone posted on here saying that they had done it and included some
well photoshopped pics. I'm suprised no one has presented us w/ a real AR w/ a 'faux' wood finish.



www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=245685
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 10:51:35 AM EDT
How about petrified wood?
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 11:04:17 AM EDT
I think solid oak or cherry would work much better. You could do i it out of plexiglass.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 11:12:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/24/2005 11:12:17 AM EDT by _DR]
Soapstone.
Then you could have scrimshaw with whaling scenes and such on it.

Or better yet carve a receiver out of whalebone.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 2:03:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By npd233:

Originally Posted By SHIPSNIPE1:
A couple of years ago someone posted on here saying that they had done it and included some
well photoshopped pics. I'm suprised no one has presented us w/ a real AR w/ a 'faux' wood finish.



www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=245685



Lower reciever?? Where??
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 3:22:53 PM EDT
There was a post a while back about plastic or polymer lowers, its been a long time, the guy actually had a few made. ended up weighing more than alum os the SST lower though
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 3:54:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By kells81:
There was a post a while back about plastic or polymer lowers, its been a long time, the guy actually had a few made. ended up weighing more than alum os the SST lower though



Vulcan makes one...

Bushmaster and ArmaLite also offer such an animal (Carbon-15 and whatever the Cav reciever is called these days), in both cases purchased from the 'original' maker (eg Professional Ordinance or Cav Arms)
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 4:30:58 PM EDT
how about making a plaster cast of an AR receiver and making one out of JB weld?
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 4:54:42 PM EDT
Hrm, I think we have an extra roll of "bark" in the body shop......It's that cool woodgrain drawer liner material that gets applied to the outside of vehicle panels to make it look like they are "wood sided" like the days of old.....

I myself was going to go for the bubblegum lower....you ever see hwo hard that stuff is to get off the bottoms of chairs and such after it's been there for years?
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 5:27:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By kells81:
There was a post a while back about plastic or polymer lowers, its been a long time, the guy actually had a few made. ended up weighing more than alum os the SST lower though



Vulcan makes one...

Bushmaster and ArmaLite also offer such an animal (Carbon-15 and whatever the Cav reciever is called these days), in both cases purchased from the 'original' maker (eg Professional Ordinance or Cav Arms)




no those are carbon, this one was made out of Delrin I think. Cav's are polymer, I have a yellow one
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 8:04:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mongo001:
I predict receiver extension ejection in the first mag or two.


There's no limit on how big or "beefed up" the outside could be, I'd probably put a pin all the way thru the tube, then dremmil it flush on the inside. I think i'd start with a 4"X4"X12" oak block.
Rout out the mag well, FCG pocket.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 11:41:57 PM EDT
If you made a lower from wood, then it would make it a lot easier to properly bed...even without duct tape.
Link Posted: 8/25/2005 4:16:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/25/2005 5:10:59 AM EDT by j3_]
I think they used to use this wood for bearings that turbines ride on.
www.cocoboloinc.com/vitae.html
Link Posted: 8/25/2005 5:24:56 AM EDT
I bet it would work if it was a 1 piece like the Cavarms lower with metal inserts. I actually tried this once and ended up with firewood and a 1 1/8" auger (for the buffer tube) that grows rust in my garage. I just didn't have the patience. Good luck. If you really want to impress people, let's see n UPPER reciever in wood. Then maybe a barrel.
Link Posted: 8/25/2005 5:38:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/25/2005 5:50:34 AM EDT by Stryfe]

Originally Posted By SHIPSNIPE1:

Originally Posted By npd233:

Originally Posted By SHIPSNIPE1:
A couple of years ago someone posted on here saying that they had done it and included some
well photoshopped pics. I'm suprised no one has presented us w/ a real AR w/ a 'faux' wood finish.



www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=245685



Lower reciever?? Where??


Yeah, that's not it.
I know the thread SHIPSNIPE1, is referring to.
Someone used 3D modeling software to come up with a reciever that looked like it was made out of wood. By the end of the thread, several different skins had been applied.

ETA.
Guess I don't have the original wood grain pic, but I do have this.
Link Posted: 8/25/2005 6:34:06 AM EDT
Right now i am getting a knife and a block of wood, who wants to buy a lower?
Link Posted: 8/25/2005 3:17:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VEPRguy1:
I bet it would work if it was a 1 piece like the Cavarms lower with metal inserts. I actually tried this once and ended up with firewood and a 1 1/8" auger (for the buffer tube) that grows rust in my garage. I just didn't have the patience. Good luck. If you really want to impress people, let's see n UPPER reciever in wood. Then maybe a barrel.




LMFAO------
Link Posted: 8/25/2005 6:15:18 PM EDT
People carving AR-15 lowers out of wood sounds like an ATF nightmare.
Link Posted: 8/25/2005 6:32:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By D348:
People carving AR-15 lowers out of wood sounds like an ATF nightmare.



Well sir, the good news is that we managed to not only confiscate their guns, but also their metal working tools. The bad news, is now they are carving AR15s out of wood.
Link Posted: 8/25/2005 6:57:47 PM EDT
It might work with Teak. Though working with Teak is like working with metal.
Link Posted: 8/25/2005 7:38:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By D348:
People carving AR-15 lowers out of wood sounds like an ATF nightmare.


How's that?
Link Posted: 8/25/2005 8:03:13 PM EDT
Would I need a Pre-Ban tree?

Link Posted: 8/25/2005 8:06:58 PM EDT
Akorn-47.
Link Posted: 8/25/2005 8:21:49 PM EDT
how about using glass
Link Posted: 8/25/2005 8:26:01 PM EDT
a pyrex transparent lower
Link Posted: 8/25/2005 8:52:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By EX11B:
a pyrex transparent lower



Link Posted: 8/25/2005 8:54:04 PM EDT
Brazilian Walnut. Very hard and reasonably priced. Paxton lumber carries it.
Link Posted: 8/25/2005 9:50:58 PM EDT
I'll wait to see what markm says before coming to a concusion on the idea
Link Posted: 8/26/2005 2:09:25 AM EDT
I think a strong finish that would hold it to gethere more would help. I guess it would need to be oak.
Link Posted: 8/26/2005 2:13:33 AM EDT
How about buying a block of plexy glass that crap never breaks. You could use most wood tools and plus you can watch it work. Not like we don't know what happens when u pull the trigger. A plexy glass uper would work as well since the chamber will still be steel and so would all the other parts. I think plexy glass would be alot cheaper.
Link Posted: 8/26/2005 10:04:59 PM EDT
The cheap redneck solution would be veneer like you see on plywood tables...
Link Posted: 8/27/2005 4:36:10 AM EDT
All I can say is, TERMITES!!!!! You could use them to bore out the pinholes.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 10:59:50 PM EDT
I agree with 13thwarrior..... make it out of bulletbroof plexiglass! Might have to be a little bit thicker than most, but as long as the upper fits in, and the grip is normal size, what would that matter?

moot point I know until someone is ingenious enough to do it...but there are non-metallic lowers out there....could be someone could re-engineer the formula for a clear carbon or whatever polymer.

No Expert
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 1:56:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/29/2005 1:56:53 AM EDT by Stryfe]
We just need to wait for transparent aluminum.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 2:57:57 AM EDT
what about a complete wooden M16?

I mean, it woudln't fire. wonder what ATF woudl say.

Or a wooden display DIAS.

interesting...

Link Posted: 8/29/2005 6:54:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/29/2005 6:55:07 PM EDT by JosephR]
I don't know about a wooden DIAS- that would be construed as making one, whether it worked or not- your IQ doesn't affect the outcome of the trial unless you are criminally insane.

How about you make a lower out of wax- the same that crayolas are made of and use aluminum inserts for the safe and fire. That ought to make the coloring guys jealous

How about you make a mold or get one of the old EA casting molds and make one out of concrete? Use a fine aggregate and use carbide tips to drill the holes, etc.??
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 9:20:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JosephR:
I don't know about a wooden DIAS- that would be construed as making one, whether it worked or not- your IQ doesn't affect the outcome of the trial unless you are criminally insane.

How about you make a lower out of wax- the same that crayolas are made of and use aluminum inserts for the safe and fire. That ought to make the coloring guys jealous

How about you make a mold or get one of the old EA casting molds and make one out of concrete? Use a fine aggregate and use carbide tips to drill the holes, etc.??



That would make one hell of a club.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 4:28:20 PM EDT
Although a gas operated .223 doesn't seem to have much recoil . Lay your nose on the carry handle and pull the trigger. I wittnessed a recruite do this at Paris Island. It broke his nose and blacked both eyes. So, unless you want to end up with a face full of splenters I wouldn't try it, but then again, I wouldn't have been the first one to eat an egg either.
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