User Panel
Posted: 5/20/2005 11:50:52 AM EDT
I just got news that I'm being deployed to Maui, and I'd like to know if my personal semi-automatic M4-configuration carbine is legal in Hawaii.
|
|
AR magazines which can hold more than 10 rounds are illegal to have here in Hawaii. But unofficialy, it is not a law that is enforced. So when you go and register it, don't show your high cap mags.
We have a stupid law that states that any magazine that can fit into a pistol is limited to 10 rounds. As there are AR pistols in existance, the AR mag can be considered a pistol magazine and prohibited under that law. On record it is a misdemeanor to posess a pistol mag with a capacity greater than 10 rounds, and a felony if it is inserted in a pistol. So hear lies the debate, as AR pistols are not legal in Hawaii, you can't have both anyway. That law is also commonly known to not be enforced. So some would consider it to be safe to posess high capacity magazines. It is up to the police officer who you encounter if he/she is going to press that charge or not...most likely not. I personaly intend to use my firearms for home defence, and not willing to take that chance. In court, it will be just one more thing that will be brought up against me. However minor it is, it is still more crap to deal with. The Hawaiii Rifle Association will be publishing a reasponse to the AR high cap ruling in their next issue. I know of one person who owns a AR pistol in Hawaii and if you'r einterested in shooting it, come to the Shooting Sports Fair the HRA is hosting on Oahu. We do have a hometown forum (shared with Alaska). Check it out for more info. |
|
Its legal as long as you still believe in the Constitution as the law of the land.
Sorry, I know thats not much help. My brother got stationed in California, they make exceptions to their stupid laws for military. You just have to put in for some paper-work or something. |
|
...for sure Hawaii and Alaska are so close to each other....u guys can go shooting together |
|
|
if you move to hawaii, you have to "register" your guns? register them with who? |
|
|
The Police Department. You should see the hoops we have to jump to own a handgun....crazy. |
||
|
that is bordering on oppressive |
|
|
Just another large island to the East of us. Sharing a forum with another state with almost nothing in common with us kinda sucks, but at least we finally got one here on ARF. |
||
|
Not only do you have nothing in common with Alaska, but your states are complete opposites -- in climate and firearm laws!
|
|
A brief summary of what it takes to purchase a firearm in Hawaii is as follows:
Taking an NRA "first steps" shooting course, then applying for the permit to own ($25) at the main police station (must have the handgun serial number on hand, so you can't do this in ahead of time), wait 2 weeks, return to the station to pick up the permit and get finger printed, then back to the gun store to pick up your gun, then return to the station again to register it. You must do this for EACH handgun you purchase (legally). The permit only allows YOU to use the handgun. So if your wife uses it with out you around (at the range or to ward off a rapist) she'll get arrested for using it. But, you can go back to the station again to get her co-registerd for an other $25. long guns are a bit different in that you can apply for it with out actually owning the gun first, you can register more than one at a time, and oince you own it, can legally loan it to a friend. But the rest is the same. You have to have a clean record too. So any trouble with the law and you can't own one (legally). A temporary restraingin order (TRO) will also prohibit you. What's wrong with that is a TRO is an accusation from another person, not a conviction. You also need to have a medical doctor sign off as part of the permit process as well. So, he/she can rule you to be unfit to own a gun in Hawaii. There's more, but I'm startign to get depressed and can't type any more...... |
|
For those considering playing the odds, I would like to introduce you to officer cgpd7507 Officer cgpd7507, what do you have to say on this subject:
Now fortunately for us, officer cgpd7507 lives and works in Florida, but don't you just know that the kind of person he is exists in Hawaii too, and Oregon as well, for that matter (Washington state has Stickman, by way of contrast. Lucky Evergreen staters). So watch out and keep your nose clean; officer Orwell is minding your business. |
||
|
Hawaii has always had the worst firearms laws in the country.
They are even worse than Massachusetts and Puerto Rico . I believe you have to register all ammo too. What state makes you register a non firing matchlock musket? Hawaii. |
|
wow. that is almost unbelievable. is there just no gun-related political movement there? it seems like the NRA would make a move to do more there. or maybe there's just not much of a gun culture in hawaii to begin with? on the other hand, I'm surprised we don't hear the anti-gun side hold up hawaii as a model, draconian gun laws and one of the lowest murder rates in the country seem to make their case pretty well. |
|
|
Hawaii is too liberal and isolated to be of benefit to either the NRA or Handgun Control.
|
|
When you are going to leave the island make shure you mail any questionably items home. The police were very laid back but TSA at the airport will arrest you if they find something. They found My automatic knife and went nuts it was even in my checked in bags. It sucks loosing a $450 microtech
|
|
I thought TSA gave people the option to mail it to themselves instead of confiscating it. That's just too expensive of a knife to lose (or even loose .) Sorry for your loss. I hope the agent that kept it falls on it.
|
|
ammunition and blackpowder firearms do not need to be registered in Hawaii. Anyone of legal age can purchase. |
|
|
+1000 I think we just trumped all other states with the stand your own ground law, even though I know others have similiar laws. |
|
|
|
||
|
That thread was annoying as hell. He just wouldnt stfu. Brown Shirt and proud of it, now pass out the SS badges |
|||
|
Nope. I work at a local sporting goods store in honolulu. store policy is anyone over 21 can buy ammo with a valid id. and everytime i go to gunstores you just buy it like you buy a can of soda. as for a bulk purchase, like buying an entire pallet of ammo, i'm not sure i have not done so. maybe there is something special you would need to do for that but i doubt it. |
|
|
What do you mean on CCW.??? You should always have to have a permit on for a CC gun, I think at least. |
|||
|
|
||||
|
I have seen some complete dumbasses in my life, a safety class or two should be required for a CCW license, but yeah I totally agree with you. |
|||||
|
Yeah if people are going to carry in public there should be some safety classes and I also think there should be some type of proficiency requirement too, I think its also important so that people who are going to carry a firearm are aware of the laws regarding the use of deadly physical force, it would be a shame to end up in jail simply because someone wasn't aware of the laws (such as the requirement of some states that you have to have no avenue of escape prior to being justified in the use of DPF in self defense)
|
|
the permit system in florida is no hassle to me at all. some say its the first step to not letting us have them at all... but there's too many stupid people out there. i'll gladly prove i'm worthy. 'Least we can still own 'em how we like 'em (ahem cali)
|
|
We are a "May issue" state. And it is commonly known that any application which is submitted to the Chief of Police (who is 100% pro-ban of all firearms in Hawaii) will be rejected. No one to my knowledge has ever recieved a CCW in Hawaii. I posess a CCW in Utah, Florida and Nevada, but none apply to here locally. I only have them for when I travel out of state. I completely agree that a person must have adequate training in not only how to use a firearm, but also trained on when not to use one as well. I myself have attended several shooting schools and many instructor and I am at times appalled by what I see at the range. Such as muzzle checks, where the shooter looks gown the muzzle to confirm it is loaded. A person must show competance to recieve a licence to drive... |
|
|
Our laws really aren't that bad. I'm not sure where you are getting that information. |
|
|
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.