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9/22/2017 12:11:25 AM
Posted: 6/8/2005 1:48:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/8/2005 6:12:29 PM EDT by AKM47]
Saw an add in Shotgun News magazine for this stuff. It is going for $175.00/1000. If anyone is interested let me know and I can get the name of the place and a phone #. If I remember correctly the place is in TN.
Link Posted: 6/8/2005 2:18:11 PM EDT
IMI M193 comes in cases of 1200, boxes of 30, so if it's per 1000, it may be old stuff, loose ammo, not in original IMI packaging.
Link Posted: 6/8/2005 3:59:46 PM EDT
On the Web site, it showed 20rd boxes and its headstamped 2003. It also said that the cases are crimped and sealed. The boxes are black and grey with red lettering that says Israeli Military Industries on it.
Link Posted: 6/8/2005 5:09:50 PM EDT
What's the web site?
Link Posted: 6/8/2005 5:49:04 PM EDT
the website is www.wideners.com the ammo is displayed on the home page
Link Posted: 6/8/2005 5:58:43 PM EDT
IMI commercial ammo, not Q3131A
Link Posted: 6/8/2005 6:11:07 PM EDT
I thought it was commercial ammo myself when I first saw it, but they had it listed in the Shotgun News Magazine as M193 so that is what I wrote. Anyway I just thought I would give everyone a heads up if they are interested, it doesn't seem like bad stuff and not badly priced.
Link Posted: 6/8/2005 6:12:56 PM EDT
I edited post so that it doesn't say M193
Link Posted: 6/8/2005 6:52:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/8/2005 6:52:41 PM EDT by Oslow]
I hate to have to tell you this, but people sometimes say things that aren't true.
Link Posted: 6/8/2005 7:19:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/8/2005 7:20:27 PM EDT by Wingman26]
That's the IMI retail box in 223 Remington, different packaging from the M193, and since it's 223 spec it might be a lower velocity from the M193 military ammo.

It is good ammo!
Link Posted: 6/9/2005 1:48:42 AM EDT
I used to shoot IMI 9mm stuff out of my UZI, never had trouble with FTE's FTF's etc, but it put some wear & tear on the UZI. I don't know if the .223 are hot loads like the 9mm were.
Link Posted: 6/9/2005 12:22:00 PM EDT

I might pay that for good .223 if shipping was free.


Link Posted: 6/9/2005 12:23:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Oslow:
I hate to have to tell you this, but people sometimes say things that aren't true.




but it's on the internet...doesn't that make it true????


Link Posted: 6/9/2005 6:23:09 PM EDT
I picked up 2 cases last week . ( since they are right down the street from me ) so far I have been through 500rds with no ill effects so far .. shoots as good as anything else I have shot
will go back for more !
Link Posted: 7/25/2005 2:07:15 PM EDT
I just ordered a case from Wideners today, and 300 rounds of their tracers. Shipping was pretty reasonable, too. For $170 a case of 55 grain, shouldnt be bad for plinking at the range. Total shipped (from TN to FL) came to $267 for 1300 rounds (1000 of IMI 223 and 300 tracers).
Link Posted: 7/25/2005 3:18:31 PM EDT
I purchased a couple of cases of IMI .223 from Wideners a couple months ago. It is a little lighter than M193, I didn't chrono it just slightly less bang than 193.
IMHO, Great ammo though good alternative to the loose pack Lake city 193.
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 12:16:52 PM EDT
The ammo is 223 over all length. A chop saw and a micrometer revealed that it is 5.56 brass marked 223. The web area is thicker than commercial 223 brass. The primer is crimped and sealed. The neck is also tar sealed. It was 52 FPS slower than m193 out of my 20" bushmaster.

This stuff is way better than bulk packed floor sweep. This stuff is closet stash grade stuff.
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 12:23:16 PM EDT
MONEY SENT!
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 2:13:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VegasDealer:
The ammo is 223 over all length. A chop saw and a micrometer revealed that it is 5.56 brass marked 223. The web area is thicker than commercial 223 brass. The primer is crimped and sealed. The neck is also tar sealed. It was 52 FPS slower than m193 out of my 20" bushmaster.

This stuff is way better than bulk packed floor sweep. This stuff is closet stash grade stuff.

When I ordered a few days ago, I asked the guy about:

"The primer is crimped and sealed. The neck is also tar sealed"

And he said "Yeppers, you bet". I noticed the crimped/sealed on the website, and that was the closing deal for me to give it a whirl. Plus, who can beat Talon Tracers for $6 a box?
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 2:19:54 PM EDT

This stuff is way better than bulk packed floor sweep. This stuff is closet stash grade stuff.


Link Posted: 7/27/2005 2:26:27 PM EDT
Don't get me started on that floor sweep nonsense again.
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 2:27:52 PM EDT
Just called about an hour ago and the guy who is taking orders told me that some sheriff's dept placed an order for 95% of their IMI 55 gr stock. My quoted price for 1000 rnds is $196 shipped.
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 2:32:54 PM EDT
I just ordered another 1000 rounds for $187 shipped.
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 6:13:25 PM EDT
I'd like to get some of this nonsense, but I just can't justify another ammo shipment.
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 5:26:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Oslow:
I hate to have to tell you this, but people sometimes say things that aren't true.




This ammunition has the M193 projectile in it, and their is plenty left FOR NOW.
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 5:59:03 PM EDT
Just got confirmation that my order for another 1000 ships tomorrow. I love this site.
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 6:54:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/28/2005 10:02:22 PM EDT by Charging_Handle]
www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=4092&dir=18|476

I wouldn't mind trying some of that. It's 100 fps slower than M193, but it's still hotter than most .223 spec 55 gr FMJ. Plus, these rounds have well sealed primers. In that regard, it's probably better than much of the XM193.

The thing is, if they have the ability to do all of that with this round, then why don't they just build it to M193 specs? That is what the market wants.
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 6:49:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By markm:
I'd like to get some of this nonsense, but I just can't justify another ammo shipment.



You are not trying hard enough. Just sit back, close your eyes...and imagine a life without ammo. After recently being forced into the humiliation of going from one Wal-o-chinaMart to another buying Remington 55 FMJ's a few boxes at a time, I find it quite easy to justify another ammo shipment...and another...etc.

Paladin
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 12:34:06 PM EDT
Thanks! I just ordered some!
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 1:25:27 PM EDT
www.kyimports.com/ammo.htm#NATO

I ordered some from here.


I like it! Not as hot as my Q3131/Q3131A but still damn fine ammo.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 1:27:07 PM EDT
188.32 1000rds inbound
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 4:06:36 PM EDT
Stopped by the warehouse Monday afternoon and picked up another 3 cases .. they had 2 skids left ....going fast ya better get in line
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 5:53:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2005 5:55:44 AM EDT by markm]
w00t!

Got mine Friday! Nice ammo. Fit and finish are perfect!
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