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Posted: 9/15/2009 7:51:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 11:39:41 PM EST by Brahmzy]
So, remember back when ammo was cheap? Remember being able to grab 500rd. boxes of Federal XM193, shipped to your door for $79?

Well, I've got a 2-3K rds. of it all brand new in boxes, chilling. However, I know that some of the headstamps are as old as '02...

How long should I hold on to this old stuff? I just hate shooting it because of the price I paid. Should I quit buying new Silver Bear & start going through this old stuff? Sell it? Hold onto it?

How long do these rounds last for SHTF type dependencies?

I'm also holding onto about $3K rds of the good ol' Federal 250rd. Varmit HP Value Packs we all got for $38 a piece.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 8:16:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2009 8:17:18 PM EST by GlutealCleft]
If you still have them, and the year is about to roll around to '02 again, you might want to rotate them out.

If water or oil doesn't get inside the cartridge, then 40-50 years is a walk in the park.
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 8:38:56 PM EST
Keep them cool and dry, and they'll outlast you!
If you have to make some room, though, PM me and we can deal
Link Posted: 9/15/2009 11:51:18 PM EST
I still have 3 cases of the original lot #1 from ammoman. I fire it once and a while, and it's still GTG. It's been stored in .50 cal cans with desiccant since 2001.

I fully expect it will be GTG for another 20 years, no problem.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 12:29:12 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 1:12:23 AM EST
I'll buy them for $79 plus shipping
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 4:06:06 AM EST
Ammo is like wine, keep in a cool, dry claimant, with consistent temperatures, and your grandchildren will have no issues when they teach their kids to shoot this ammo.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 7:08:19 AM EST
Originally Posted By mattja:
I still have 3 cases of the original lot #1 from ammoman. I fire it once and a while, and it's still GTG. It's been stored in .50 cal cans with desiccant since 2001.

I fully expect it will be GTG for another 20 years, no problem.


What is the headstamp info on XM193 lot #1?
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 7:49:24 AM EST
87 years
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 7:54:00 AM EST
I have shot Turkish 8mm from the 30's which I have no clue how it was stored and it was good to go. 180 rounds, not a single hiccup.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 10:29:49 AM EST
Its about how it was stored more then how old it is. You could have ammo that is 3 years old, but if it wasn't stored right, it would be no good. On the other hand, I've been getting 8mm and 06 that was made from before WWII, still works fine.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:36:22 AM EST
I had a good bit of .303 Brit from 1917. I would get an occaisional, short hangfire.
So, I wouldn't want to go past 92 years .
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 5:47:10 AM EST
02s are expired.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:24:40 AM EST
Originally Posted By damcv62:
You could have ammo that is 3 years old, but if it wasn't stored right, it would be no good.


What storage conditions would inert ammunition in three years?

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:56:20 AM EST
Originally Posted By jcaringi:
Originally Posted By damcv62:
You could have ammo that is 3 years old, but if it wasn't stored right, it would be no good.


What storage conditions would inert ammunition in three years?



bottom of the ocean?
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 9:54:05 PM EST
You should turn it about every 3 months by 90degrees(like wine)...to evenly distribute the powder settling in the cartridges
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 10:00:17 PM EST
If you are planning on selling it, you missed the prime period.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 1:14:09 AM EST
Originally Posted By leid:
Originally Posted By mattja:
I still have 3 cases of the original lot #1 from ammoman. I fire it once and a while, and it's still GTG. It's been stored in .50 cal cans with desiccant since 2001.

I fully expect it will be GTG for another 20 years, no problem.


What is the headstamp info on XM193 lot #1?


I don't have a box handy, but IIRC, it was FC 00 or FC 01 with the NATO cross. I assume they used M855 brass.
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