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Posted: 10/31/2004 8:16:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/31/2004 8:17:43 PM EST by Teknic]
I'm looking to buy the ammo below for shooting my RRA. This is about as cheap as I've seen online. Has anyone have experience. I've used wolf on my 9mm with no problems but I'm new to 223 rounds. Can you guys give me some input on good range ammo?

www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=153249
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 10:22:32 PM EST
It's good cheap plinking ammo, it canbe a little dirty but it goes bang everytime
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 10:34:10 PM EST
The new polymer coated stuff is great. I've shot more than 15,000 rounds of it, with not one ammo related failure.

You'll find some guys here really don't like it, and usually this opinion is based on the older style wolf with the green case and the red sealant around the case neck. That stuff caused more than a few problems, but Wolf corrected the issue, and improved reliability with the new case coating.

Like dpmmn said above, this isn't the best all around ammo, and it definately ain't accurate, but you can't beat it for taking out to the range and blasting with some friends.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 8:57:50 AM EST
I just ordered another case of Wolf Polymer FMJ 62gr from Ammoman.com. It's on sale for $115/1000 rounds right now, with free shipping that makes it 11.5 cents a round.

So far of the 500 rounds of Wolf Polymer I have spun done the barrel, zero failures. Accuracy is good enough to explode 1/2 gallon milk jugs at 100m.

Works for me.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 9:09:55 AM EST
Be sure to read the www.ammo-oracle.com for all the poop on Wolf......

If your hoping to use it IRL for some SHTF use, ya might decide on a better choice as the Wolf seems to be mostly for plinkin, (although there's alot of us that prefer NOT to use Wolf for anything).

BTW, www.ammoman.com has sweet deals on USGI fresh NATO stamped 9mm, 124grn. and FC Match 45acp, 230grn. ammo....., My order should come in this week. This stuff should be much better stocking ammo than the smelly Wolf rounds, IMO.

Phewww, that stuff smells.....,

Mike
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:15:24 PM EST

Originally Posted By Gunbert:
The new polymer coated stuff is great. I've shot more than 15,000 rounds of it, with not one ammo related failure.

You'll find some guys here really don't like it, and usually this opinion is based on the older style wolf with the green case and the red sealant around the case neck. That stuff caused more than a few problems, but Wolf corrected the issue, and improved reliability with the new case coating.

Like dpmmn said above, this isn't the best all around ammo, and it definately ain't accurate, but you can't beat it for taking out to the range and blasting with some friends.



A huge +1

I love the shit, it never fails, smells funky, and is great for blastin
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 2:07:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/1/2004 2:07:30 PM EST by _DR]

Originally Posted By mr_wilson:


Phewww, that stuff smells.....,

Mike



true, true.

I love the smell of XM193.

The smell brings me back to the firing line at Fort Benning 20 years ago...
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 2:08:29 PM EST
good plinking, not good for much else imo.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 2:14:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By omega-metroid:
good plinking, not good for much else imo.



Still better than throwing rocks, for sure.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 2:30:58 PM EST
I like Wolf for my AKs and SKS but not too keen on it for my AR. I just got back from the range sighting in my EoTech with XM193. After sighting in I loaded up some wolf polymer and shot about sixteen rounds with numerous failures to extract and failures to feed. Dropped that mag (a 20) and slapped in a Labelle 30 with wolf in it. Shot two rounds. Second one didn't feed at first. The third one fired and got stuck in the chamber. Tapped it out with an AK-74 cleaning rod when I got home.

I'll pass on using Wolf in the future. Never had any problems with the XM193. YMMV.

Link Posted: 11/1/2004 3:48:17 PM EST
I got several boxes of wolf 762x39 with an sks I bought. It seems to be loded light and wont feed. I bought winchester white box and it fed just fine. I don't trust wolf. if it's loaded too light they might goof the other way.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 4:57:31 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 9:26:28 PM EST
How could one guy say 1000 rounds with no failures and another guy has nothing but failures...which is hard to believe BTW.

I'll give Wolf a try. It has worked fine for my 9mm and 40mm for range use. Which grain is better 55 or 62?
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 9:35:51 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 10:11:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By Captain_Picard:
I like Wolf for my AKs and SKS but not too keen on it for my AR. I just got back from the range sighting in my EoTech with XM193. After sighting in I loaded up some wolf polymer and shot about sixteen rounds with numerous failures to extract and failures to feed. Dropped that mag (a 20) and slapped in a Labelle 30 with wolf in it. Shot two rounds. Second one didn't feed at first. The third one fired and got stuck in the chamber. Tapped it out with an AK-74 cleaning rod when I got home.

I'll pass on using Wolf in the future. Never had any problems with the XM193. YMMV.





Where in NV are you? I'd love to get together with you and help you diagnose what's wrong with your rifle.
Link Posted: 11/2/2004 6:14:32 AM EST
I'm in Carson City. I think I've seen your posts before (nice avatar) and you are in Lost Wages. I lived there for many years before it turned into Phoenix with casinos.

I think I'm going to try the wolf in my other AR, an Armalite with a chromed bore but not a chromed chamber. The rifle I was using yesterday was a CMMG with both chromed bore and chamber and M4 feed ramps. I have heard that chromed chambers can be a little sticky with some ammo.

I also think the prob may have something to due with the fact that the Wolf had a lot of FTF probs which may have roughed up the steel case and lead to the failure to extract because of a burr on the case. I don't know the reason for all the FTFs. Side by side the Wolf and XM193 look identical. Dirty and inconsistent loads aside, I think it may be the steel cases.

BTW, the XM193 definately has more punch to it. I think Wolf is for soda cans (if it works for you) and XM193 is for combat.

I'll post my results in this thread.



Link Posted: 11/2/2004 6:24:29 AM EST
works good in all my ar's
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