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Posted: 10/28/2004 4:21:17 PM EST
When shooting at a man sized target?

CRC
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:22:05 PM EST
how far away?
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:23:52 PM EST
It is general knowledge that under 50 meters the odds of hitting the target are better with a three round burst, over 50 go with the semi.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:32:04 PM EST
50-100 meters.

CRC
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:38:11 PM EST
3 MOA.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:41:01 PM EST
Use semi. 3rnd burst is only good close up. I mean real close. And even then, why f around unless you have full auto. If you dont cycle your weapon properly before hand, you aint getting a 3 shot burts when you expect it anyways.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:43:42 PM EST
With an A2, beyond 25 or so meters I wouldn't count on hitting more than once or twice per burst. I read a LtCol comments on the subject a few years back when he offered to give any Marines in the Battalion a 96 if he could keep all his rounds of one burst inside an E silhouette at 25 meters. At the end of the day only a few Marines in a whole Battalion collected.

With a M4 and the ability to get into a tighter position you could do a little better.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:59:24 PM EST
I've seen a member here RING my 12"X12" armor gong with all three at 50 yards.

I can get two on there, but I've not had much practice with F/A cuz I'm not a fan of it for centerfire rifle.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 5:03:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/28/2004 5:04:35 PM EST by drjarhead]

Originally Posted By STLRN:
With an A2, beyond 25 or so meters I wouldn't count on hitting more than once or twice per burst. I read a LtCol comments on the subject a few years back when he offered to give any Marines in the Battalion a 96 if he could keep all his rounds of one burst inside an E silhouette at 25 meters. At the end of the day only a few Marines in a whole Battalion collected.

With a M4 and the ability to get into a tighter position you could do a little better.



That sounds about right to me. You're going to get a good rise intially. After the first few rounds you can hold on target. Never thought that burst shit made any sense but I will admit having no experience using it. Just full auto and it is easy enough to do 2,3 or 4 round bursts at will with FA. All it takes is a little trigger control.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 5:04:56 PM EST
I think the AN94 has the burst concept figured out. Now if only we could have incorporated that into the M8. 2 rounds same point of impact .
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 5:44:56 PM EST

Back in '88 I was shooting 3 round bursts in foxholes under the direction of Drill Sergeants at Ft Benning. They had us loop the sling so there was an opening just large enough for the left hand to slip in and be tight to the handguard.

100 yards was too easy. 200 yards was much more fun. The muzzle rise between shots was perfectly vertical. No horizontal changes were occurring with this technique.

Depending on how far below the target you were aiming your 2nd or 3rd shot would hit the target. I had a lot of fun figuring out how far to hold below the target to do that. It was much more fun to have two shots kick up dust in front of the target and then the third shot slams the target down.
Link Posted: 10/29/2004 11:32:37 AM EST
Thanks for the information.

CRC
Link Posted: 10/29/2004 12:51:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
Never thought that burst shit made any sense but I will admit having no experience using it.



I do and I hated it. Sometimes you'd get one shot. Some times two. It all depended on the when that damn thing resetted itself. True FA is the only way to go. Guys just need to use a bit more trigger control.
Link Posted: 10/29/2004 12:59:02 PM EST
i've shot 3 rd burst at 200 yds, and as long as you have a good tight sling on, all of your shots will be in a silhouette, that is, if you can shoot at least halfway decently.
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