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Posted: 6/5/2010 6:07:25 AM EDT
Good morning all.

I find myself in the middle of my third build, a light-weight KISS rifle.

My first build I used the cheapest stock available last spring, a $42.00 UTG 4 position complete stock kit from MidwayUSA (this same kit is available at JSE Surplus for $30.00). It has over 1,000 rounds down-range without a single hiccup. I know, I know all the "air-soft" jabs get a little childish and old. I fitted a $5.00 buttpad to it and it's comfortable, reliable, and light––I like it. And again––I know, I know it's not what many of you consider suitable for professional bad-guy hunting, door busting, romping stomping, zombie blasting, end-of-the-world, hell-raising. None of that happens to be my thing. And some here are very concerned about their rifle's balance. I won't be entering my rifle in any baton twirling competitions any time soon either. The $47.00 cheap-a$$ stock works.

My second build I decided to go with an upgrade; an Advanced Technology, Inc. stock ($36.00 from JSE Surplus). Then I got the standard 6 position tube and parts from DPMS. This setup gave me a very comfortable adjustable cheek rest and a more substantial feel when shooting. This stock cost $72.00 all-in. A bit heavier but again, 800 rounds without a hiccup. It works.

I'm looking at the Magpul CTR version because it has a way to cinch up the play between the stock and the tube.

My only experience with Magpul has been with their magazines. I find them very well made. I did have a few minor problems with them dropping free from my billet lower, just a very light sanding on a few high spots and problems solved; still a great product. What I disliked greatly was the CEO of Magpul himself showing up down in the "Magazine" forum (where I got the useful advise to sand the high spots) and explaining to me directly and to everyone/anyone else having problems with his magazines that his magazines were fitted to a Colt lower and that all of our lowers were out of spec and to basically go pile sand. That's not what I considered great customer service. Left a very bad taste in my mouth.

I've priced out a CTR to come in complete with standard hardware and a $16.00 mil-spec DSArms tube at $123.00. A complete ATI stock set at MidwayUSA will be $64.00.

This is America where we have the rights and resources to spend our money as we see fit, but what will the extra $88.00 over the UTG, or $59.00 over the ATI setups get me––other than the neat ability to lock-up tight?

Is the CTR a heavy rig?

Honestly, is it worth the extra cash?
Link Posted: 6/5/2010 6:17:02 AM EDT
If you don't want to pay much go with the Vltor Modstock at Bravo for $50 or just get the Magpul MOE
Link Posted: 6/5/2010 6:20:10 AM EDT
I just returned a CTR for a Vltor basic Modstock and saved about $30 on the return.  The ability to lock up tight on the CTR is not really a needed feature.  My Vltor is not a tight fit but is much more comfortable and practicable (cheek rest) than the CTR and the Vltor does lock up tight when put to shoulder.
Link Posted: 6/5/2010 6:23:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/5/2010 6:27:28 AM EDT by 87GN]
Even the CTR doesn't always lock up completely tight. It depends on the tube you use. It will eliminate most of the rattle/play, though. I don't know if I would consider that alone to be worth $90.

edit: To add to what has been said above, Vltor is selling their Modstock kits with mil spec tube and everything else for $99, vltorstore.com.
Link Posted: 6/5/2010 6:28:44 AM EDT
If you like the CTR but want cheaper, go with a MOE. I had a CTR, didn't see the need for the lock, so have used MOE's on all my builds after that. Couldn't be happier.
Link Posted: 6/5/2010 6:30:05 AM EDT
BCM is selling Vltor modstocks for $50..get a milspec tube $20 and thats a cheap high quality set up.
Link Posted: 6/5/2010 6:31:00 AM EDT
Thanks for the replies.

Greatly appreciated.
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