Need help with all the expertise on this board. Been reading this board for about a month trying to narrow my search for an AR-15. I want a bushmaster but unsure of which one. I want one primarily for defense but would also like to have fun with it. Can't decide on the best model and/or barrel length. Any suggestions. This will round out my defensive weapons, SIG 220 for home, SIG 245 and glock 27 for carry, plus mossberg 500 cruiser for home.
I think a Bushmaster 16" M4A3 (Patrolman's Carbine) would be a good choice. The flash hider isn't permanently attached. You have the flat-top, which will help when/if you choose to get optics. You can't beat the price either!
It's a great carbine.
Welcome to the site!
I am also looking to buy an AR-15 in about 6 months.
What is the preferred manufacturer(Bushmaster,Rock River
Arms,DPMS panther,Wilsons Combat, ect.)?
What options and accessories to look for?(flat top so you can mount things)?
Wilsons Combat says their Super Sniper is accurate to 400 yards, are they really that much better than the rest? They have a good reputation for their .45 pistols.
I like the look of the Close Quaters Combat style with the shorter(16") barrel, but I want the accuracy of the longer Stainless Steel barrels.
Also, it seems alot of the AR-15's come with permanent flash suppressor. Are there any that
you can buy with a threaded barrel? I want to eventually attach a class 3 suppressor.
JustinOK34, thanks for the response. I was eyeing the patrolmans carbine, that and the dissipator carbine. Is one better than the other?
for me, it relays on looks ( i like the carbine better myself)
h/w, the dissipator will have a longer sight radius and suppsidly, the parts wear is less...
I think the best "all around" ar, ever, is this configuration...
A3 upper, 18" H-bar, barrel turned down under the full length handguards, A1 Buttstock.
It's short enough for carbine use, but still very much a rifle, and it's simple and light weight.
No doo-dads, no complication or parts that are useful sometimes and not others.
And, I'm slightly biased because I built one like this based on my own recommendation!
I think the best all-around AR is a Midlength A3. It has a 16" barrel that is proportional to the rifle (has roughly the same amount of barrel sticking out from the handguards as the 20"--fits a bayonet) and has a longer sight radius. If you like the M4 look, get a 14.5" barrel with a permentantly attached FH. If it must be a BM (they don't make midlengths) and have a 16" barrel, I agree with the M4A3 Patrolman's Carbine even though I hate 16" M4 barrels.
Thanks for the help guys. I knew I brought my ????'s to the right place.
I think I will go price/order the patrolmans model.
It's going to be a toy. Shooting paper at the range(at my club we have a max. of 300 yards)
I definately plan to get some 30 and 40 round mags and just unload as fast as I can pull the trigger, as I have done with my Desert Eagle .50AE and Glock 19.
I guess the reason I want the AR-15 is because it is a good
cross between a sniper rifle and a CQB carbine.
Accuracy is very important. But the shorter the barrel and still acheive accuracy at 300yds.
Do they make an 18" barrel?
Regauarding Wilsons, All the extras they list,
Forged upper (flat top) and lower receivers
Premium Wilson Combat Match Grade Super Sniper Barrel, 20" OAL
Free Floated Aluminum Handguard
Ergonomically Correct Pistol Grip
Crisp 3 3.5# Trigger Pull with JP Trigger/Hammer Group *Premium Mil-Spec Bolt and Bolt Carrier
Hard Anodize Finish on Receivers
Mil-Spec Black Manganese Phosphate (Parkerized) or Armor-Tuff Finish on steel components
Caliber - 5.56/.223 Remington
Overall Length 38"
Weight Unloaded 9 1/4#
Magazine Capacity Accepts all M-16/AR-15 Style Magazines, One Magazine Included
Are the above items standard, or really an improvement over the others.
Thanks for any help, I've been into pistols for a long time and just bought a shotgun
(Benelli SBE II), and now I want a Kick-ass AR-15 ( wish I had $16,000 for an M-16)
Your use/applications sound exactly like mine: all fun and games and little (if any) thought to SHTF or TEOTWAWKI situations. I owned a 20" Colt A2 years ago, sold it and a few months ago bought it back. After using it for awhile and seeing somebody else's configuration I decided it wasn't what I wanted. The 20" barrel served no purpose but making the gun less handy. The handle made scope use a chore. So, I sold my Colt and bought a gun set up more approriately for how I use it. I went with:
A2 stock (simple, solid and less sinister looking than the collapsible)
16" Hbar (16" because that's all you need and light weight isn't an issue)
Flattop (because I decided that for my range use a scope is what I really wanted)
Midlength handguard (for hand position comfort, looks and smoother operation)
improved trigger (the stock trigger and the diffficulty upgrading it is the first thing that made me question the Colt)
With this configuration I get all the firing/use/design characteristics of the AR in a compact package and without all that G.I. Joe/bad ass wanna-be B.S. (with apologies to real bad asses and true military servicemen and women).
BTW, there's an article posted up under the "INFORMATION" tab about the IDEAL RIFLE
I think I decided on the Bushmaster 16in Carbine with Bird Cage Flash Suppressor
It has the "heavy barrel" which seems to be more durable then the M4 type.
The only thing I couldn't find out was if the flash suppressor is permanently mounted. It
doesn't say if it is or isn't. If it's not permanent, than I think this is the gun for me!!
What do you guys think?
all right noobs, gather 'round.....................
In order of quality and popularity
Colt LE6920 or 6721 (best all around 16" carbine and "just like our troops" almost)
Bushmaster M4A3 Patrolman's Carbine - nearly the Colts above, sans a few subtleties
Rock River Arms- 16" chrome lined carbine: good all around carbine/ great fit/finish/value
Armalite 16" carbine same features as above
Truth be told, it is hard to go wrong with any of these
Welcome to the site and one of the more gratifying pursuits!!
EDIT: FrankAR15....get the flat-top version of that one!! You'll be glad you did!!
The 16" HBAR is a great choice, too! I'm sure you're getting the Flat-Top version (Bushmaster probably doesn't have a pic on their site, though).
The 16" Carbine you picked out has a removable flash suppessor (flash hider). You're good to go.
One last thing to note is that Bushmaster does not use a mil-spec diameter buffer tube so if you ever want to change out the tele stock, you will have to replace the buffer tube. That's really just a pet peeve of mine. RRA tele stocks are the same. While you think you not want to change the tube, you never know.