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Posted: 12/18/2002 7:24:48 PM EDT
Howdy All,

I currently have a 16" Post Ban A3 Bushy with a ATN 5x33 Professional scope (excellent scope BTW) mounted with a pair of Millet rings.  What I don't like about this setup is the 2 independent ring mounts (and I have not ever seen a single-mount for the ATN scope).

I hadn't shot that particular rifle for several months (it was stored in my safe) and when I did, the POI was about an inch off.  That's just not acceptable - to have rifle untouched and have the POI move.

I would like to utilize the Armalite 1" mount (a 1-piece brick sh!t house) that I have and get a 1" scope for it.

So, the requirements are that the scope needs to be 1", 40mm objective and have adjustable magnification between about 3-9x.  With a 16" I won't be doing anything over 200 yards so I definitely won't need higher magnification than the 9x.

I'm considering the tried-and-proven Leupold Vari-X II 3x9.  Any other suggestions?  I think, IIRC, I've heard some good things about one of the Tasco scopes.  I also must keep the cost under $300.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks,
CMOS
Link Posted: 12/18/2002 10:44:00 PM EDT
[#1]
I looked at both the Vari-X II 3-9x50mm, and a Nikon Monarch 3-9x50mm, and the nikon's optics were far superior, IMO. SWFA has the Monarch 3-9x40mm for $269.
Link Posted: 12/19/2002 3:33:07 AM EDT
[#2]
Zardoz, will I have enough height with the Armalite mount to use the 50mm objective?

Thanks,
CMOS
Link Posted: 12/19/2002 6:04:42 AM EDT
[#3]
The VXII is inferior to the Weaver Grand Slam and Nikon Monarch, both of which are in the same price range.
Link Posted: 12/19/2002 6:08:05 AM EDT
[#4]
Under $300 1" = Weaver GS

Probably the best sub-$300 scope there is. IMHO.

Ed
Link Posted: 12/19/2002 6:30:17 AM EDT
[#5]
If its been several months the air temperature/humidity could have caused the shift and not the rings.  That is normal.
Link Posted: 12/19/2002 8:46:06 AM EDT
[#6]
[b]"If its been several months the air temperature/humidity could have caused the shift and not the rings."[/b]

DevL, I agree with you on that point.  However, it's a forgone conclusion that a single piece mount like the Armalite will have better immunity to variations caused by the mechanical stresses of temperature changes.  I live the AMT scope but there just isn't a super mount out there.

Thanks for the suggestions guys.  Any opinions on any of the Tasco models?

CMOS
Link Posted: 12/19/2002 9:29:07 AM EDT
[#7]
I think DevL meant that the change in temp/humidiy would affect the path of the bullet, not the "setting" of the scope & mount.
Link Posted: 12/19/2002 9:41:28 AM EDT
[#8]
Mike, I seriously doubt it's just simple temp/humidity drift as DevL proposed.

I was shooting hand loads at only about 80 yards.  That's waaaay too much to attribute to simple drift.  

CMOS
Link Posted: 12/19/2002 10:21:14 AM EDT
[#9]
It could produce an inch variance at 400 yds from summer to winter but at 80 it should be under .1 inches so your right something is certainly wrong.

I think you should just buy a better scope so you can use the good mounts. [;)]
Link Posted: 12/19/2002 10:31:33 AM EDT
[#10]
Don't forget the Burris Black diamond series. Pretty good glass IMO.
Link Posted: 12/19/2002 1:45:01 PM EDT
[#11]
DevL, I trust the scope.  I do think the issue is the mounts.  [:P]

CMOS
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