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Posted: 9/16/2005 12:38:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/19/2005 2:27:58 PM EDT by Kalahnikid]
On bbl just behind front sight post is stamped "53". on the Front sight post it says "P RI (in a circle) 5"

Any help is greatly appreciated.

****Edit****

Its in VGC. What would you roughly ballpark the asking price at?

Colt A2 upper, with 20' bbl cut down and threaded just forward of FSB by KKF.

What might you pay for it in the EE if you wanted one?
$500?
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:53:54 PM EDT
Are those the only markings on the barrel?

WIZZO
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 1:16:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WIZZO_ARAKM14:
Are those the only markings on the barrel?

WIZZO



Yup. Its a full length rifle bbl cut down to dissy length=ie where it would usually say twist rate and brand is gone.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 1:47:46 PM EDT
In my best Irish accent, "Me thinks you be Fooked"



What profile is it?

The "53" sounds lika a Gubment marking of some sort.

WIZZO
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 2:02:22 PM EDT
Well the upper reciever is a Colt, so I was hoping the bbl would be too. It has an A2-esque flashhider with KKF stamped under it.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 2:12:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kalahnikid:
Well the upper reciever is a Colt, so I was hoping the bbl would be too. It has an A2-esque flashhider with KKF stamped under it.




I know KKF is kurts Kustom firearms.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 2:15:13 PM EDT
Yeah Id guessed thats what KKF was. But hes only the one who chopped the bbl. Im trying to find out the brand of bbl to determine the value of the upper.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 2:27:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kalahnikid:
Yeah Id guessed thats what KKF was. But hes only the one who chopped the bbl. Im trying to find out the brand of bbl to determine the value of the upper.



Without markings directly on the barrel you will never find out who sold the barrel originally let alone the manufacturer. The FSB tells you nothing.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 3:38:23 PM EDT
Dace, thanks for your help. But I has still hoping someone might be able to tell where the '53' came from.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 5:32:32 PM EDT
Sounds like say a 1988-1995 or so Colt's barrel. What forge code is on the receiver? Does it have M4 feed ramps?
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 7:02:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2005 7:07:26 PM EDT by Kalahnikid]
Upper reciever forge code is C MB. It has rifle feed lips.
Thanks for any help you can offer.

ETA: One more question, did Colt ever put out night sights? This upper has the tritium sights. Is that aftermarket?
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 7:33:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2005 7:34:44 PM EDT by Ekie]
You have a barrel with a code used from about 1980 through 1995 like this:



A front sight base that does not have a C or a "bell" which was dropped by about 1987 or so:



That narrows you down to about 1988-1995. The CMB forge code was in use during the time frame 88-95. So I can see that Colt's receiver matching that barrel. How about the color of the receiver, it is Colt's gray no?

Yes, the sights are not Colt's.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 7:48:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2005 10:33:38 PM EDT by Kalahnikid]
Ekie, thank you so much for your help.

Yes the upper is gray. *If* it is the front sight post that came with the bbl it could be a 94 or 95 as it has no bayo lug.

Next question. What might it be worth if I decided to part with it in the EE?
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 7:49:13 PM EDT
Agree with Ekie on this one, Colt.
I've got a carbine barrel marked "55"
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 6:46:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/17/2005 6:47:42 AM EDT by Ekie]

Originally Posted By Kalahnikid:
Ekie, thank you so much for your help.

Yes the upper is gray. *If* it is the front sight post that came with the bbl it could be a 94 or 95 as it has no bayo lug.

Next question. What might it be worth if I decided to part with it in the EE?



The bayonet could have also been removed. It is possible that it is a 1988 M16A2 lower that was cut down, the lug removed and then refinished. If it left the factory with the lug removed then it might be a 93/94 6551 upper.

The upper is small hole right? That would be an M16A2 upper receiver, and I sell those for $125-$175 in the EE. Never sold or seen a chopped 20" Colt's barrel on the EE, so you could set your price.


Originally Posted By YardDogOne:
Agree with Ekie on this one, Colt.



Stranger things have happened.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 6:53:39 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 10:56:40 AM EDT
Ekie: Yes its a small hole.
Tweek: It was cut about .5inch in front of the front sight post, threaded and flash hider attached. The flash hider fits about fluch with the FSB.

Thanks for your help guys.
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 4:53:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 5:13:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tweak:
it started life as a 20"?



One of his earlier replys if you had missed it.


Yup. Its a full length rifle bbl cut down to dissy length=ie where it would usually say twist rate and brand is gone.

Link Posted: 9/17/2005 5:17:31 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/17/2005 9:52:04 PM EDT
Yeah its an interesting little shooter. If I keep it Im thinking about a CavArms lower for it. Maybe Ill take some pics later.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 2:31:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/19/2005 2:37:09 PM EDT by Kalahnikid]
Cant decide if I should keep or sell. Im leaning toward sell/trade for AK to even out the AR/AK ratio I have. Feeling a little unbalanced with a case of lagging in Soviet small arms.

Edit: Price request is for upper only.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 4:52:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kalahnikid:

What might you pay for it in the EE if you wanted one?
$500?



$300 without bolt, bolt carrier, and charging handle. But Colt adds no value to me unless we are talking bolt and bolt carrier.
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 5:49:51 PM EDT
close on the $300.00 price but it wouldn't be worth that to me because AR's are either 20 inches or carbines, a cut down barrel really has no place except in a collection of oddities, dissy's? well I believe that's a trend that will pass
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