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Posted: 1/7/2005 11:10:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/7/2005 11:10:47 PM EDT by SFR]
Tell me everything you know about this ammo.  They have the markings 86/13 on the base by the primer.

Link Posted: 1/7/2005 11:14:32 PM EDT
South African Denel manufactured, like the PMP, it's junk
Link Posted: 1/7/2005 11:17:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Gunner:
South African Denel manufactured, like the PMP, it's junk



i found that out, they suck hardcore, jammed like crazy. i got 300 rnds for 20 bucks good for plinking but i wont buy ANY more.

Thank you sir.
Link Posted: 1/7/2005 11:22:31 PM EDT
Yeah, they come in 300 battle packs, 5.56 X 45 mm, BALL M1A3 – 378 A86. Head stamp "86" at 12 o-clock, and "13" at 6 o-clock.. Very dirty, with many recessed primers that would not fire.
Link Posted: 1/7/2005 11:53:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 1:13:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Troy:
Actually, unless there is something specifically wrong with this batch, it's quite good, M193-class surplus.  It's the South African battlepack ammo that everyone liked so much a few years ago.

-Troy



this batch must suck then, since i had 3 fail to extract and a fail to fire. This was the first time ever i had any kinda problems with my AR, so im blaming this ammo. I have almost 3000 rounds through it too. Normally shoot winchester 5.56, never a prob.
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 1:19:39 AM EDT
Hmmm. I've shot thousands of rounds of this stuff with no problems. Actually seems to be a bit hot.  Mine's 384A86. I still have 1,500 rounds in battlepacks, so I hope it's good.
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 10:17:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By operatorerror:
Hmmm. I've shot thousands of rounds of this stuff with no problems. Actually seems to be a bit hot.  Mine's 384A86. I still have 1,500 rounds in battlepacks, so I hope it's good.



If you have shot thousands of rounds I would not worry about the rest.

Seems like most people like this stuff but Armalites seem to have a problem choking on this ammo.
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 10:22:49 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 10:36:44 AM EDT
I'm going to keep my mouth shut next time for stuff I really don't know about, but hey I got the south african part right.
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 11:50:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Gunner:
I'm going to keep my mouth shut next time for stuff I really don't know about, but hey I got the south african part right.



Why? If you have a bad experience with it, I want to know. And I'll bet everyone else does too. You might have gotten a bad batch. It happens.
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 12:00:22 PM EDT
nah I pulled it off some other ammo review forum
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 6:35:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By brouhaha:
Sounds like you may have got some that was stored badly.

I've shot well over 15,000 rounds of this stuff, and I can't remember ever having a malf.



ya i have to agree, god only knows how this stuff was stored.
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 8:53:01 PM EDT
I've got some of this ammo 86/13 and like it alot.  If you have any to sell let me know.  Did you get it in sealed 300 rd battle packs?
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 5:33:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By overdriv:
I've got some of this ammo 86/13 and like it alot.  If you have any to sell let me know.  Did you get it in sealed 300 rd battle packs?



no, they were loose in those boxes shown, i will shoot the rest i have, it was prolly just from imporper storage. out of 150 i fired i had 4 jams.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 8:23:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SFR:

Originally Posted By 1Gunner:
South African Denel manufactured, like the PMP, it's junk



i found that out, they suck hardcore, jammed like crazy. i got 300 rnds for 20 bucks good for plinking but i wont buy ANY more.

Thank you sir.



I'd buy whatever u have left if ya dont want it....I loved the SA stuff!! burned through 2 tubs with ZERO failures!!
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