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Posted: 11/1/2006 4:16:44 PM EST
Working on a 16" Recce build, and pricing the stocks. Some stocks have H buffers, some don't. Do I really need one, or is it like the M4 feed ramps that some people think I don't need either?
Link Posted: 11/1/2006 5:24:10 PM EST
Come on, guys, 27 views and counting and I can't get one opinion?
Link Posted: 11/1/2006 5:25:49 PM EST
A properly functioning carbine *should* only require a normal buffer.
Link Posted: 11/1/2006 5:27:15 PM EST
Sure. It can't hurt.

If you don't know the function of the heavier buffers I will tell you.

I run either H or h2 or 9mm buffers in my carbines.
Link Posted: 11/1/2006 5:28:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/1/2006 5:29:50 PM EST by Harv24]
No.. You don't. The standard Buffer will serve you well.

Heres a 12 year old standard Buffer with 14K thru it. Only reason I'm not using it is a got a new one with an H buffer. Did not notice a pinch of difference.

I would not have specifically sought a H buffer, pick the stock you want and take what ever buffer comes with it.


Oh, did I mention that I DID NOT have any M4 feed ramps during those 12 years and 14K rds.......
Link Posted: 11/1/2006 5:40:20 PM EST
There we go, one for and three against.
Link Posted: 11/1/2006 5:55:46 PM EST
I can't actually notice a difference between a standard or an H buffer when shooting. Not saying it doesn't make the gun a little more reliable, just saying I can't tell the difference behind the trigger.

Now a 9mm buffer.... thats another story.
Link Posted: 11/1/2006 6:18:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By steve-oh:
I can't actually notice a difference between a standard or an H buffer when shooting. Not saying it doesn't make the gun a little more reliable, just saying I can't tell the difference behind the trigger.

Now a 9mm buffer.... thats another story.


Story time!
Link Posted: 11/1/2006 6:42:10 PM EST
Okay gather round everybody! When I put in a 9mm buffer, you can definately notice the rifle cycles slower and smoother. As to whether or not the recoil is less, I can't really tell, but it definately shoots more like a full length gas system than a carbine.
And they lived happily ever after. The end.
Link Posted: 11/1/2006 6:43:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By steve-oh:
Okay gather round everybody! When I put in a 9mm buffer, you can definately notice the rifle cycles slower and smoother. As to whether or not the recoil is less, I can't really tell, but it definately shoots more like a full length gas system than a carbine.
And they lived happily ever after. The end.


Hooray!

Link Posted: 11/1/2006 8:07:20 PM EST
The weight difference in CAR and H buffers is not enough to tell unless you are shooting full auto where the cyclic rate is noticable. The H buffer is going to be a LOT like having M4 feed ramps... theoretically better but no real world difference you are likely to notice. I have noticed a big change with 9mm buffers on shot recovery in DI rifles.
Link Posted: 11/1/2006 8:12:37 PM EST
you dont really need one--stock CAR buffer should work fine

h/w, some who may have had tweeking problems have found thier solution w/ a H/H3 buffer; others who use the heavier buffer have better reviews w/ recoil

Link Posted: 11/1/2006 9:54:55 PM EST
Not necessary.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:12:58 AM EST
On a semi-auto only firearm, there is no need for anything other than a standard buffer. The H and H2 buffers are designed for use with selective fire weapons . The problems they were designed to solve will not affect semi-auto only fire. Colt does not reccomend putting 9mm buffers in any of their 5.56mm carbines.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 4:14:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2006 4:15:43 AM EST by nugentgl]

Originally Posted By crsbar:
On a semi-auto only firearm, there is no need for anything other than a standard buffer. The H and H2 buffers are designed for use with selective fire weapons . The problems they were designed to solve will not affect semi-auto only fire. Colt does not reccomend putting 9mm buffers in any of their 5.56mm carbines.


And COLT is always right

I used to run enidine buffers in my uppers, but have switched to 9mm buffers as they are more reliable and smoother.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 5:09:18 AM EST
OK, so the H or 9mm buffers really only make a difference on full auto, ditto the M4 ramps.

My at-work gun, an M4/203, obviously has both, and I'm thinking my key to reliability involves making the home gun as much like the work gun as possible. It's a 16" midlength, so I'm not sure what that does to the ramp and buffer needs.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 5:55:45 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 8:10:12 AM EST
Well, my FH is a Vortex, and Smith won't sell their suppressor that connects to the Vortex to civilians. I don't think they'll sell it to me in my civilian capacity.

I might put a can on there someday though, and if I have that kind of cash I won't care about having to change the FH.

So skip the M4 ramps, skip the H buffer.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 8:26:34 AM EST
I'd get the ramps. I'm pretty sure most uppers from good manufacturers come with them anyway.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 9:04:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2006 9:29:39 AM EST by Brett_Walker]
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 9:27:56 AM EST
My AR`S work with
regular buffer
H
H2
9mm

The 2 9mm buffers RRA makes are pretty nice and are cheaper than H3
and they do work as everyone states

its up to you
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 9:42:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2006 9:45:37 AM EST by Colt_SBR]
If the price for the H buffer isn't too much more than the standard buffer, I'd go with the H. It can't hurt.

I bought a VLTOR stock and got a free H buffer with it. I used the H buffer and kept the standard for a backup.

My two .223/5.56 AR carbines have H buffers. I've never had a problem with either AR lower using three different uppers including a 11.5".



Link Posted: 11/2/2006 10:49:39 AM EST
The standard works in all my carbines just fine.
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