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1/22/2020 12:12:56 PM
Posted: 9/28/2007 7:40:40 AM EST
Going to go out and shoot this weekend to try out the new AR, thinking of putting at least 500 rounds through her of different brand of ammo. But i feel so bad for taking out some of my Q3131 and XM193, don't know if i can ever get them back once i shoot them cause it 9.99 PER BOX of 20 over here
Link Posted: 9/28/2007 3:56:26 PM EST
Prices for metals seem to have stabalized a while back. Most Gov. Contracts are filled, or close to it. Sales are still up and people keep paying a lot for the ammo, so the manufacturers keep selling it for the nice price it is going for now until the market dips.

With more "black rifles" out there isnce the sunset of the AWB and more interest in these large appetite firearms. Prices may stabilize soon. It depends on the market and how willing the shooting public will continue to buy (Often in bulk) at ever increasing prices.

Sometimes we're our own worst enemies.
Link Posted: 9/28/2007 3:58:55 PM EST
I stays from range to home be prakticin me grammur
Link Posted: 9/28/2007 4:14:52 PM EST
Price coming down in Washington State. My last case of 1,000 - FMJ - HSM was $219.00.
Link Posted: 9/28/2007 4:43:05 PM EST
One can only hope. Some people around here want $7 per box of 20 for wolf. That is insane.
Link Posted: 9/28/2007 4:46:25 PM EST
I think prices will drop when people stop buying it at crazy prices. I'm not buying any over priced ball ammo and won't until prices drop.
Link Posted: 9/28/2007 4:51:36 PM EST
As long as people think ammo prices will do nothin but go up or disapear all together they will never stop payin high prices. You alone not buyin wont change anything.
Link Posted: 9/28/2007 5:34:48 PM EST
I hope to God it has.
Link Posted: 9/28/2007 7:10:13 PM EST
Piss on the current prices!

All I've been doing is reloading what I've got. Heck I'm even stingy on that. I load a 100 empties and shoot them and reload them until I start seeing splits then toss in the scrap bucket. I'm not wearing all my brass out evenly, just a 100 at a time.

I will say that Federal cases are pretty poor for endurance. I've seen it posted and now I've proven it to myself. 2-3 loadings and into the scrap bucket.
Link Posted: 9/28/2007 7:26:30 PM EST
I doub it but one can hope.

M2C,
223SAINT
Link Posted: 9/28/2007 7:48:31 PM EST
I know someone that is still hording a small stockpile (jane fonda eat your heart out) of port 308. Sure was nice, back when that stuff was $110/case

His wife still complains that it takes up most of the closet space in their spare bedroom.

;=)
Link Posted: 9/28/2007 10:07:46 PM EST
hope it has coz' then its supposed to get lower,.......
Link Posted: 9/28/2007 10:46:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By m62-m76:
Price coming down in Washington State. My last case of 1,000 - FMJ - HSM was $219.00.


That was the price of HSM's training reloads from several months ago. The Sept prices are 259.00 and will be going up in a few days.
Link Posted: 9/28/2007 10:48:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By KYOSHI:

Originally Posted By m62-m76:
Price coming down in Washington State. My last case of 1,000 - FMJ - HSM was $219.00.


That was the price of HSM's training reloads from several months ago. The Sept prices are 259.00 and will be going up in a few days.


+1
Link Posted: 9/29/2007 6:30:10 AM EST
YES, for me, at least the 223/5.56 ammo HAS PEAKED. I don't buy it anymore, I don't even look anymore.
During this past summer milsurp had gone up in price so much that it made premium .223 like BlackHills seem cheaper!
This past summer I picked up a couple cases of BlackHills 55gr. FMJ Red Box that cost me $686 delivered or 34.3 cents per round! At the same time I got 500 rounds of BlackHills 69gr.SMK Blue box all of which to add to my dwindling stock of 5-600 rounds BH 55gr FMJ Blue box and all from KISER MUNITIONS with his ultra quick delivery.
Whats happens with me is I'll buy ammo that is available, usually from Aim. Like when they had Radway, I think it was $129 for 720 rounds packed lose with strippers, bandos and in an ammo can I got 3 cans. I shot that for awhile and before even half of that was gone they got Guat. and I bought that. When I realized 26 30 round boxes of Guat fit nicley in a .50 cal can I bought more. Then I bought a bunch of .223 reloads in 55gr. FMJ and 55gr Vmax from *Wisconsin Cartridge, Co. that at the time was .28 cents per round for the Vmax. Then someone had Federal AE 55 and 62gr FMJ and the XM193 on sale and I got that and have shot very little of it. Then for a day or two CTD offered their LakeCity M855 green tip in the mis-labeled (M885) boxes for $5.47 per box of 20 so it just kept stacking faster than I was shooting it and i shoot twice a month during the summer and when weather permits.
Now I have enuff AR ammo to last thru this shooting season which is why I don't buy any more. I'll probably sell off most of my factory ammo to finance reloading equipment and components.
At this time I am reading up on hand-loaders and intend to get me one of those contraptions to keep me buzy this winter.

**FWIW...Late 2005 I bought ammo from *Wisconsin Cartridge Co., Friendship, Wisc. and had no trouble with my order or unauthorized use of my CC.

Thanks for reading.

Link Posted: 9/29/2007 6:37:09 AM EST
For me it has, I'm no longer willing to spend what they want so it's peaked for me.

Fortunately I have a small amount put back that will last me a year or two. They can keep their ammo and I will keep my money.
Link Posted: 9/29/2007 7:12:19 AM EST
I only buy - if it is a good deal. If it is high - I don't buy.
Link Posted: 9/29/2007 1:15:14 PM EST
no more buying for me till prices come down
Link Posted: 9/29/2007 1:28:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By willsnipe4ammo:
no more buying for me till prices come down


You are going to be waiting a while, and might wait right into the Clinton miltary caliber ammunition and component ban. I could stand to loose the weight, and if I turn out to be wrong all I will have wasted is money.
Link Posted: 9/29/2007 1:47:30 PM EST
China stopped exporting lead two or three months ago and the market price of lead went from $.80 to $1.60. This has not made it into the ammo chain yet because the big companies, if they were smart, hedged the .80 price. When the hedge runs out, we will see another round of price increases. I bet it is at least 8-12% in January.
Link Posted: 9/29/2007 2:24:55 PM EST
Right now we are in the eye on the hurricane. Most of the big box stores have done their mfg February price increases this Summer.

There was another mfg price increase back on the first of this month. We should see the prices go up as the stores start getting that ammo in.

There will be another mfg increase in January. There probably will be other non mfg price increases as the supply of ammo dries up in many areas.

Who knows what will happen after the next election. 50.00 per box of Q3131 might be considered a steal in five years.
Link Posted: 10/2/2007 7:04:39 PM EST
and where did you manage to get hsm for just over $200 ive been looking all over for it.
Link Posted: 10/2/2007 7:35:24 PM EST
just ordered 2k rds of .06 , shipping was near $100 , higher than usual.

Holiday buying season might prolong the ammo spike but last year it got cheaper in Jan/Feb, i think it will again...
Link Posted: 10/3/2007 4:06:47 PM EST
I got the HSM at Sportsmans Warehouse. Though, I bought all they had that day - 1150 rounds. keep checking.
Link Posted: 10/3/2007 5:20:41 PM EST
Originally Posted By Force750:
China stopped exporting lead two or three months ago and the market price of lead went from $.80 to $1.60. This has not made it into the ammo chain yet because the big companies, if they were smart, hedged the .80 price. When the hedge runs out, we will see another round of price increases. I bet it is at least 8-12% in January.[/quote

Why, did they stop exporting toys?
Link Posted: 10/3/2007 6:43:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By 45-Longslide:
Originally Posted By Force750:
China stopped exporting lead two or three months ago and the market price of lead went from $.80 to $1.60. This has not made it into the ammo chain yet because the big companies, if they were smart, hedged the .80 price. When the hedge runs out, we will see another round of price increases. I bet it is at least 8-12% in January.[/quote

Why, did they stop exporting toys?


45-Longslide. Good one. You are funny man. Thanks.
Link Posted: 10/3/2007 7:33:20 PM EST
ChinaMart hasn't even shown the 9/1 increase yet. Sheeple will really freak out then, sparking a whole new round of increases.
Link Posted: 10/3/2007 7:42:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By rockymtnhi:
ChinaMart hasn't even shown the 9/1 increase yet. Sheeple will really freak out then, sparking a whole new round of increases.



I think the new prices will hit faster than it took for the increase on 2-4-07 to show up. I bet the 9-1-07 increase will be seen before the Jan 08 increase hits.
Link Posted: 10/3/2007 8:24:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By m62-m76:
Price coming down in Washington State. My last case of 1,000 - FMJ - HSM was $219.00.



Did you buy that locally?

Send me an IM.
Link Posted: 10/3/2007 9:48:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By hotpig:

Originally Posted By rockymtnhi:
ChinaMart hasn't even shown the 9/1 increase yet. Sheeple will really freak out then, sparking a whole new round of increases.



I think the new prices will hit faster than it took for the increase on 2-4-07 to show up. I bet the 9-1-07 increase will be seen before the Jan 08 increase hits.


I have decided that if we see a sudden increase again I will not wait and I will add 15-20K rounds of .223 and 20,000 rds of 9mm and buy a RRA 9mm carbine and another AR along with a .22 upper. At the rate I shoot my stock will then be about 10-12 years worth of shooting and I'll get into reloading. I'll bite the bullet, so to say, now on prices. Unless someone thinks peace is breaking out anytime soon, significant dips are unlikely.

Walsh
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 8:09:20 PM EST
think about this. ammo is never too expensive when it comes to fighting the undead
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 9:24:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By RedOx1:
think about this. ammo is never too expensive when it comes to fighting the undead


That's why I will never go under 5000 rounds or 2000 for each caliber handgun.

Walsh
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 3:11:19 AM EST
as long as people keep buying it at the prices it's at.... it's not going down......... I'm waiting for the prices to go down..... Not like i'm buying any now ....
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 5:33:13 AM EST
The prices have lured me into buying spikes and advantage arms conversions for my ar and g17. I'll be using 22lr now.
I need to stock up though. I have more 556 than .22lr Price is right though under $.018 per round for federal plinking ammo reported to be reliable in the conversion. Back when m193 was 250/k my realator said it was like throwing quarters at the target. Now it's like tossin pennies.

The price for lr seems to be somewhat stable while 5.56 continues to skyrocket. I do not see an end in sight especially if the dems come in to power. I plan on buying as much as I can. while I can.
cw
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 6:58:45 AM EST
I just buy premium now. The Difference now is $1-$2 bucks unless I got to wal-mart.
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 7:02:36 AM EST

I don't see it coming down any time soon.

There is a current RFQ for 50 million rounds out there from the .gov
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