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Posted: 4/16/2017 11:39:34 PM EDT
Was on the family place shooting at a steel plates.
PSA Glock lower with hybrid bolt, standard FCG, 7.5 oz solid buffer with standard carbine spring. No problems before with a few hundred rounds previously and had fired about 100 rounds already today. Inserted a fresh mag and the next trigger pull resulted in a FA three round burst. Unloaded and inspected, everything looked fine and the FCG was working OK manually.  Inserted the same mag and finished off the remaining rounds with no failures. Thinking of replacing the FCG....anyone that's experienced this have any suggestions?
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 11:53:42 PM EDT
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There are two major possibilities:

Disconnector is worn outside of tolerance and needs to be replaced.
You unintentionally bump-fired it. (Not saying you did, but seen it happen, and the person freaked out, especially when they couldn't duplicate the "failure".)
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:06:44 AM EDT
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Hammer follow?   Whose FCG?
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:16:41 AM EDT
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Don't know, just a standard group came in the complete lower.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:20:47 AM EDT
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There are two major possibilities:

Disconnector is worn outside of tolerance and needs to be replaced.
You unintentionally bump-fired it. (Not saying you did, but seen it happen, and the person freaked out, especially when they couldn't duplicate the "failure".)
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Anything's possible! Will probably replace the disco with a spare to begin with then. Thanks
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:48:39 AM EDT
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Check disconnect spring.  Unless I'm misunderstanding, someone else assembled the lower.  Upside down or broken?
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:49:12 AM EDT
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Standard hammer? If so you will need to cut the tail off.

On the blowback guns the action is more violent and the hammer tail gets jamed into the disconector preventing it from catching the hammer. If it happens fast enough you get hammer follow bursts.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:02:06 PM EDT
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Standard hammer? If so you will need to cut the tail off.

On the blowback guns the action is more violent and the hammer tail gets jamed into the disconector preventing it from catching the hammer. If it happens fast enough you get hammer follow bursts.
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Standard hammer, thanks for the advice!
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 2:36:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2017 5:43:41 PM EDT
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Weak ammo.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:45:21 PM EDT
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It was weak ammo. Have heard this mentioned before as well.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 7:12:10 PM EDT
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Ask to delete thread, replace all lower components, throw old ones in a lake.   Hide dog, not kidding.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 7:33:29 PM EDT
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Pretty much this but destroy parts through in several lakes, you don't want shit like this on internet, I have no faith in ATF.  They would fuck you just to make an example of you.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 10:35:11 PM EDT
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Pretty much this but destroy parts through in several lakes, you don't want shit like this on internet, I have no faith in ATF.  They would fuck you just to make an example of you.
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Ask to delete thread, replace all lower components, throw old ones in a lake.   Hide dog, not kidding.
Pretty much this but destroy parts through in several lakes, you don't want shit like this on internet, I have no faith in ATF.  They would fuck you just to make an example of you.
Sounds like my cans are never getting out of jail
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 10:54:35 AM EDT
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I had a similar issue with a complete PSA Colt lower. Only a few hundred rounds through it and it got worse and worse.

Tossed in a BCM FCG and it hasn't happened since.

PSA RMA'd the FCG and sent me a new one. Definitely something funky with the disconnector or maybe there was some tolerance stacking.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 4:09:41 PM EDT
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About 2 years ago, I purchased a couple of psa lower parts kits.  I noticed that one of them was pretty difficult to get the hammer to catch on the disconnector when doing a function check.

It turned out the channel in the trigger was improperly machined, and wouldn't let the disconnector pivot hardly at all.  

I replaced mine with an ALG trigger kit and all has been good now.

Take a look at the channel in your trigger to make sure its square and deep enough.  Mine looked like it was cut with a circular saw blade plunged vertically into it.  It was completely circular from front to back.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 4:28:26 PM EDT
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With a 9mm?  Yes.  Switch to a Spikes ST-T2 buffer for a carbine tube.  A combo of bolt bounce, slam fire, and bump fire may be occurring.

Make sure your firing pin has a spring on it.

A broken hammer pin will cause this, 9mm is tough on those pins.  

I had an ALG triple and more on me in my 9.  They promptly replaced it and it now is 100%

If you install a small pin FCG in a large pin lower (not your case) this will also happen with some FCG types.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 4:29:38 PM EDT
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Bullshit.  Just fix your rifle.  Don't lend it to a loudmouth friend to take to a public range.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 7:02:38 PM EDT
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LOL, I had a carbine build go full auto on me..............NO BIG deal........
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 7:41:11 PM EDT
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I have a PSA AR-9 which uses Glock mags.  The entire gun is PSA (complete upper and complete lower all from them).  The first range trip it had a few 3 round bursts and a few times it fired out of battery and even blew the magazine out of the magwell.  I contacted them here and sent it back to them to take a look at.   The repair sheet said it was a faulty FCG and they replaced it.  Since I got it back, I have a couple thousand rounds through it with 0 issues.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 7:45:52 PM EDT
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Sounds like my cans are never getting out of jail
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keep talking about this problem and you'll join your cans in jail.  


Link Posted: 4/19/2017 6:25:41 PM EDT
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Bullshit.  Just fix your rifle.  Don't lend it to a loudmouth friend to take to a public range.
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Why take any chance at all.  Lawyers are expensive just to retain one, so my post is not BS except the dog joke.  Also good advise not to loan it out right now.  We had a member go to club fed.  Is he out now?
Link Posted: 4/19/2017 11:35:04 PM EDT
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Swapped out the entire FCG with a spare that came out of a Colt 6720. Seems like the place to start, will test this weekend.
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