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Posted: 10/19/2004 4:18:27 PM EST
Whats the diffrence between an H BUFFER and the BUFFER thats is stock on a CAR ?
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 4:40:01 PM EST
The "H" stands for heavy.
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 4:53:48 PM EST
Do you know who sells them ?
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 4:59:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By kon3:
Whats the diffrence between an H BUFFER and the BUFFER thats is stock on a CAR ?



Plain CAR buffer weighs about 2.9oz

"H" buffer is approx 3.8oz, enough to run full auto with a CAR stock, but not as heavy as a std rifle buffer at 5.1/5.3oz.
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 5:05:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By kon3:
Do you know who sells them ?



C4iGrant at www.gandrtactical.com can get you the LMT H buffer.
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 8:14:13 PM EST
Just out of morbid curiousity, how much does the 'H2' buffer weigh in comparison?
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 2:49:42 AM EST
Thanks for the information
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 3:55:34 AM EST
Does it make any sense to run a H buffer on a semi auto carbine with a collapsible stock, or just stick with the standard buffer?


Link Posted: 10/20/2004 4:06:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By jsmith99:
Does it make any sense to run a H buffer on a semi auto carbine with a collapsible stock, or just stick with the standard buffer?






For me it's not worth the extra money at all.

I am running a Fulton Armory 16" carbine upper on a Ameetec Lower with a RRA collapsible stock and have a few thousands rounds through it without a hiccup. Even did some fast as you can pull the trigger mag dumps and everything was smooth as silk. The carbine buffer has worked fine for me.

Also running a Busmaster 16" dissipator upper on an Ameetec Lower with a RRA collapsible stock and have the exact same results.

YMMV.

Link Posted: 10/21/2004 4:14:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By jsmith99:
Does it make any sense to run a H buffer on a semi auto carbine with a collapsible stock, or just stick with the standard buffer?



what I meant to say is: I already have both buffers. I ordered a VLTOR from bravo company, and they threw in an H buffer. So now I am not sure which one to use, the standard or H buffer. Will the carbine be more reliable in theory if I use the H buffer?


Link Posted: 10/21/2004 4:50:59 AM EST

Originally Posted By jsmith99:

Originally Posted By jsmith99:
Does it make any sense to run a H buffer on a semi auto carbine with a collapsible stock, or just stick with the standard buffer?



what I meant to say is: I already have both buffers. I ordered a VLTOR from bravo company, and they threw in an H buffer. So now I am not sure which one to use, the standard or H buffer. Will the carbine be more reliable in theory if I use the H buffer?





Theoretically it should be more reliable.

Throw the H buffer in the Vltor and never look back. If you ever have problems you could swap it out.

Of course after your Hbuffer rifle is up and running, the carbine buffer could be your first piece to your 2nd rifle that you could build around!
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 4:56:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/21/2004 4:58:28 AM EST by DarkStar]

Originally Posted By jsmith99:
Will the carbine be more reliable in theory if I use the H buffer?



I'm a big fan of heavy buffers in carbine setups... I pass on the 3.8 ounce H and start with a 5.5 ounce 9mm buffer and go heavier from there... in general, a heavy buffer will cause a longer dwell before unlocking the bolt allowing chamber pressures to drop which aids extraction, smooths out the recoil cycle and diminishes the gas system 'spike', and provides a more positive round feeding and bolt closure... what's not to love?

edited for gramma...

Link Posted: 10/21/2004 5:20:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/21/2004 5:21:01 AM EST by CAR-AR-M16]
+1 for the 5.5 ounce 9mm buffer. I have used one for years, mostly to cure bolt bounce when firing full auto with my RR, but it is approximately the same weight as the standard full length buffer which does smooth things out like DarkStar mentioned above.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 6:30:25 AM EST
Where can you buy the heavier 9mm A, B, or X buffers at?
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 1:01:08 PM EST
blueheeler66- I bought a couple from M&A Parts recently. They should have some.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 1:09:59 PM EST
BROWNELLS ALSO SELLS THEM
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 1:53:37 PM EST
ADCO sells the 9mm buffer.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 5:19:27 PM EST
Thanks fellows. Just ordered from Brownell's via internet last week; can't find a number of things trying to navigate their site. Got my order pretty quick, but waiting on the catalog. Thanks again.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 12:12:56 PM EST
would there be any problems with a mid-length 16" setup with a 9mm buffer in a car stock?
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 12:31:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By bob332:
would there be any problems with a mid-length 16" setup with a 9mm buffer in a car stock?



It should work out great... the main thing to remember about buffer weights is the standard full sized A1/A2 rifle buffer weighs 5.2 ounces. The 9mm buffer weighs 5.5 ounces... In other words, you're basically back to the buffer weight the AR was designed for...

Link Posted: 10/28/2004 12:41:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By DarkStar:

Originally Posted By bob332:
would there be any problems with a mid-length 16" setup with a 9mm buffer in a car stock?



It should work out great... the main thing to remember about buffer weights is the standard full sized A1/A2 rifle buffer weighs 5.2 ounces. The 9mm buffer weighs 5.5 ounces... In other words, you're basically back to the buffer weight the AR was designed for...




could i just get an a1/a2 or are they longer?
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 1:20:38 PM EST

If you're running a CAR sized stock a full sized buffer is longer and will prevent the BC from fully traveling to rear...

Check out this link for pics and some additional info on buffers...

www.biggerhammer.net/ar15/buffers

Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:04:21 PM EST
I'd like to get a little weight in the rear of my rifle to balance out some of the highspeed stuff down near the muzzle (eotech, light, railsystem). Would a 9mm buffer be enough weight to noticeably change the balance somewhat?
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 4:13:14 PM EST
Not a lot cause it stays over your wrist in the closed position. It would not hurt though.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 8:12:43 PM EST
I want to get one of these 9mm buffers. What was the part # from Brownells?
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 8:39:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By StormSurge:
I want to get one of these 9mm buffers. What was the part # from Brownells?

TREETOP at Adrenaline Arms has 'em cheaper than Brownell's.
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 8:44:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/28/2004 8:45:58 PM EST by bob332]
my goal will be to get the least and smoothest amount of recoil while still being somewhat light ~7#s, so do you think a 16 mid-length setup with a JP/BC comp and a 9mm buffer that is "on the drawing board" should do the trick?
Link Posted: 10/28/2004 9:50:41 PM EST
I think putting a 9mm buffer in a semi .223 is ODing. If you would like to have smooth, I would use an AAC Rate Reducer or Colt Hydraulic, but again, those are also ODing. If it were me, I would use a standard H Buffer for anything over 11.5"

Sammy
Link Posted: 10/29/2004 10:22:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By selfishselfless:
I think putting a 9mm buffer in a semi .223 is ODing. If you would like to have smooth, I would use an AAC Rate Reducer or Colt Hydraulic, but again, those are also ODing. If it were me, I would use a standard H Buffer for anything over 11.5"

Sammy



Not quite right. 9mm buffer gives really smooth recoil especially with good muzzle brake. It virtually eats recoil completely. I´m using 5.66 oz steel buffer on my M4 and I´m not planning to go back to H buffer.

MN
Link Posted: 10/29/2004 9:09:07 PM EST
I stand corrected

Sammy
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