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Posted: 9/7/2005 10:38:29 AM EDT
Stopped by a new gunshop this morning to get some ammo, and to see what they had. Met with the owner, Joe; he was a really nice guy to talk with. Anyway, he had 5 slabsided AR's for sale. Never seen one before. He also had 5 cans (now 4 :)) of Radway Green SS109; which is what I was looking for. Figured I would just give everyone a heads up.

here is their website: www.keystonearms.com
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 10:52:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/7/2005 11:01:01 AM EDT
Newbie alert. Im not familiar with the term "slab sided"
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 11:02:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SBCZILLA:
Newbie alert. Im not familiar with the term "slab sided"



No charging handle or brass deflector.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 11:03:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By catch223:

Originally Posted By SBCZILLA:
Newbie alert. Im not familiar with the term "slab sided"



No charging handle or brass deflector.



No charging handle? WTF?

You don't mean forward assist, do you?
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 11:13:37 AM EDT
Hey, your in FL. but that website is for a shop in PA?
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 11:15:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By catch223:

Originally Posted By SBCZILLA:
Newbie alert. Im not familiar with the term "slab sided"



No charging handle or brass deflector.



I thought it meant NO brass deflector or RAISED FENCE around the mag release button.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 11:21:55 AM EDT
No forward assist or brass deflector.

How much? They don't have them on the website.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 11:29:56 AM EDT
hkinfl,

I've just moved from Florida; it's tooo damn hot down there.

jwise,

I looked at a bunch of stuff they had while I was there. If I recall, they were asking $995.00. They also had a wood stocked UZI there.

If anyone is interested, their number is 570-491-4867.

Again, the owners name is Joe.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 12:04:44 PM EDT
I thought slab sided referred only to the lower receiver and the lack of a raised fenced area around the magazine catch.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 12:45:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FlyingFive0:
I thought slab sided referred only to the lower receiver and the lack of a raised fenced area around the magazine catch.



EXACTLY! Thus the Flat appearance of a SLAB!
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 12:48:37 PM EDT
Slab side means (on an upper) no forward assist or brass deflector and on a lower, it means no mag fence around the mag release button and no detent housing for the front pivot pin. Slabside lowers use a type of screw-like front pivot pin. I say you should pick up one of those rifles...I don't see any on their site though.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 12:59:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
Slab side Slick side means (on an upper) no forward assist or brass deflector and on a lower slab side means no mag fence around the mag release button and no detent housing for the front pivot pin. Slabside lowers use a type of screw-like front pivot pin. I say you should pick up one of those rifles...I don't see any on their site though.



Fixed it for you.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 1:20:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By markm:

Originally Posted By catch223:

Originally Posted By SBCZILLA:
Newbie alert. Im not familiar with the term "slab sided"



No charging handle or brass deflector.



I thought it meant NO brass deflector or RAISED FENCE around the mag release button.




Generally, the term is used to describe early model Colt ARs, which had no brass deflector or forward assist on the upper; and also had no takedown pin nor mag release fence on the lower. The front hinge was a two headed screw.

Most of the slab sides are marked SP1, but there are also some SP2s out there that have the same type lower.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 1:21:45 PM EDT
Dace, and I believe you are right on that. Slick sided uppers and slab sided lowers.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 1:50:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dace:

Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
Slab side Slick side means (on an upper) no forward assist or brass deflector and on a lower slab side means no mag fence around the mag release button and no detent housing for the front pivot pin. Slabside lowers use a type of screw-like front pivot pin. I say you should pick up one of those rifles...I don't see any on their site though.



Fixed it for you.


Eh...I say slabside for both
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 3:46:04 PM EDT
What would be the advantage of a Slab/slick sided AR?
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 3:52:36 PM EDT
I don't think there are any advantages. If they are originals they are usually older rifles. At least I think.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 3:53:24 PM EDT
Spot the 3 slabsides

Link Posted: 9/7/2005 5:22:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/7/2005 5:22:56 PM EDT by fq1234]

Originally Posted By AssaultRifler:
Spot the 3 slabsides

tacoma4x4.no-ip.com/AR15s/TheBoys.jpg



2, 3, and 4....do I get a prize?
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 3:25:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Originally Posted By catch223:

Originally Posted By SBCZILLA:
Newbie alert. Im not familiar with the term "slab sided"



No charging handle or brass deflector.



No charging handle? WTF?

You don't mean forward assist, do you?



I do mean forward assist. I am retarded.
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 4:36:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
Eh...I say slabside for both



BOTH SHOULD BE BANNED!
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 5:01:28 AM EDT
I have an A2 with a slabside lower. I believe they were from 89 or thereabouts. I wonder if they all have the GS SN# prefix, These have no FA block in them, or at least not in mine.
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 6:36:29 AM EDT
CDNN also has SP1's, "from a prison buy,sale,trade", for $999.00
Suppose to be "good to exc" condition.
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 6:39:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:
I have an A2 with a slabside lower. I believe they were from 89 or thereabouts. I wonder if they all have the GS SN# prefix, These have no FA block in them, or at least not in mine.



You have a Government Model I'm guessing. Mine all have the SPxxxxxxx serial number sequence.
From past ARFCOM posts I've heard of a slab side with a sear block in it.
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 6:59:45 AM EDT
Heres a rough guide: Pre-1990 Colt slab side lowers dont have the sear block and post-1990 do. Colt rifles with the GS serial number prefix should be marked "Govt. Rifle" and dont have the sear block. Please note I have seen a few early production Colt Sporter Target models that had the GS serial number prefix instead of the usual ST prefix. None had sear blocks and I think they had slab sided lowers. Also the early Colt M16 & SP1 uppers are referred to by many as slick-side not slab side.
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 7:42:30 AM EDT
Hey AssaultRifler,

I think you need to ship me all 4 of those so I perform full inspections to verify their "slabsidedness"
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 10:12:41 AM EDT
Well seeing as how it is just a nickname, and not a technical definition in any owner's manual, I can see it is easy to understand that it has different meanings to different folks.

My question is if an originally produced COLT spec'd rifle ever came in a 'slick' side upper without a slab sided lower. And if a slab sided lower has ever come with a non-slick sided upper. I suppose they have produced them like this, but it was my understanding that a "slab-side" rifle had no FA, brass-deflector and therefore didn't have a fenced mag release either.
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 10:49:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ybh_613:
CDNN also has SP1's, "from a prison buy,sale,trade", for $999.00
Suppose to be "good to exc" condition.


Wha huh? Where?
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 2:17:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ChrisM:
Heres a rough guide: Pre-1990 Colt slab side lowers dont have the sear block and post-1990 do. Colt rifles with the GS serial number prefix should be marked "Govt. Rifle" and dont have the sear block. Please note I have seen a few early production Colt Sporter Target models that had the GS serial number prefix instead of the usual ST prefix. None had sear blocks and I think they had slab sided lowers. Also the early Colt M16 & SP1 uppers are referred to by many as slick-side not slab side.



Yep mine says sporter target on the magwell, but it came with 22 conv, 3x9 armored scope, cheekpiece, slab lower A2 upper, Sn is GS prefix, spent 5 years trying to figure out exactly what the heck it was before I found this place. All chromed and still the most accurate AR I own. I cannot ever recall this rifle having a FTF or any other malfunction.
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 3:50:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bullseye_Doc_Holiday:
Hey AssaultRifler,

I think you need to ship me all 4 of those so I perform full inspections to verify their "slabsidedness"



Come over to Raleigh sometime and you can light 'em up
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 3:52:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2005 3:55:28 PM EDT by AssaultRifler]
Found these closeup pics:

My Colt Sporter II

Note double screw head front takedown pin and no sear block pin hole
Slabside Colts have the small fire control pins and non cut out bolt carrier, except for some of the transitional models around 1990-1 which have the cut out bolt carrier




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