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Posted: 10/4/2004 4:40:22 PM EST
What about using graphite in an M16 -- with the theory being it will not freeze and will not attract dirt? What is the downside? Does it not stay in place? Does it not lube as well as oil?
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 5:34:40 PM EST
NO
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 5:58:20 PM EST
I have heard graphite lube and aluminum are bad combo. A chem/metal expert will probably pipe up in a minute.

I have used graphite on my 10-22 while hunting in winter. Worked for me.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 6:43:20 PM EST
Graphite is hygroscopic (absorbs water) and will contribute to corrosion. Not for use on weapons.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 9:38:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By M-Forgery:
Graphite is hygroscopic (absorbs water) and will contribute to corrosion. Not for use on weapons.



how is it if you live in an extremly dry environment? what lube would you recommend?
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 9:39:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By M-Forgery:
Graphite is hygroscopic (absorbs water) and will contribute to corrosion. Not for use on weapons.



or for sexual intentions
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:05:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By Hokie:

Originally Posted By M-Forgery:
Graphite is hygroscopic (absorbs water) and will contribute to corrosion. Not for use on weapons.



or for sexual intentions



Any negative lasting effects from doing this????

Maybe I need to go to the doc...
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:27:00 AM EST
I've been using to good effect, a spray molybdenum disulphide compound called "MsMoly". I use it on the bolt carrier and trigger components. On my AR10, the only thing I've been oiling is a few drops on the gas seal rings on the bolt.

moly is chemically inert with high heat resistance.

Problem with graphite is, first, it attracts moisture, second, it partially burns and leaves abrasive clinkers if it anywhere in the high temperature areas of the rifle -- bolt face, chamber, bore.

my $.02

Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:35:40 AM EST
Ok. I will stick with Mobil-1.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 6:44:59 AM EST

Mobil-1???

I'm just an FNG to these parts, but, umm....Why?

IMHO-
StrikeHold is the newest thing the US Army has approved.
Hoppes Oil is good.
CLP works just fine.
TW-25b is MilSpec and better.
Disotech and Armadillo from Novum Solutions is preferred.

For dry climates, like here in Iraq where I currently am, the Strike Hold has worked well so far, but I have had phenominal results with the Armadillo and Disotech.

Link Posted: 10/8/2004 6:49:48 AM EST
BTW- Sorry about the hijack without an answer-

Rock Island Arsenal, Picatinny Arsenal, TACOM, CECOM and basically all of the factory reps tell us that between the steel in the bolt and alumn reciever, there is a galvanic reaction with the introduction of graphite. The second reason is, the graphite pulls moisture from the humidity in the air, forming a sludge-like mess. Later is dries into a cake, and acts as an abrasive.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 10:11:55 AM EST
Yeah, graphite is a bad thing for weapons, especially aluminum parts of weapons.

Mobil 1 actually works very well. It is designed to lubricate well under high temp conditions plus it has detergent additives that are meant to dissolve carbon deposits.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 11:08:14 AM EST
Moly attracts water too.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 11:41:50 AM EST
My problem with graphite is that it's too messy. Let's just say I dropped some on the carpet and found out the hard way. It was a problem just getting it off my hands. Can't say whether it provided enough lubrication for the things I've used it for.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 2:25:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/8/2004 2:27:27 PM EST by El_Roto]
n/t
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 2:34:45 PM EST
Galvanic corrosion?

Graphite + aluminum+ moisture = Galvanic corrosion?

Help me here.

Danny
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 3:09:32 PM EST
Yes.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 3:24:38 PM EST
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't galvanic corrosion caused by a chemical reaction between two dissimilar metals?


I've also heard that graphite is a no-no on firearms becaue it sucks up moisture. Boresnake, CLP, an old PT shirt and a toothbrush is all I ever needed
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 3:50:01 PM EST
break-free
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 1:36:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By Minuteman419:
Galvanic corrosion?

Graphite + aluminum+ moisture = Galvanic corrosion?

Help me here.

Danny



Combined with the steel bolt, Yes.

jmz5-Yes, Breakfree CLP is OK, but IMHO, it's a 3-in-1 solution that doesn't really excell much in any of the three catagories.........

Matt
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