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Posted: 8/7/2005 2:32:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 2:33:49 AM EDT by DiamondsTip]
It doesnt get much better then Black Hills I know but shooting black hills can put a hole in your wallet faster then it can the target. I was wondering what brand/grain would be best to shoot out of a AR15 with a 1/9 twist. Not shooting any matchs with this ammo it would be more for home defense/recreational shooting. I want cheap but I dont want to whore myself to wolfs level so maybe find something in between. This is my first 1/9 twist its also chrome lined (heard I should avoid laquered ammo).
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 2:36:41 AM EDT
Got an aversion to XM193?
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 12:01:20 PM EDT
+1 for XM193. It's about $30-40 cheaper per 1000 than BH blue box. Not as accurate as BH but it's very good ammo loaded nice and hot. Just may sure you buy it in boxes of 20 and not bulk packed loose in a big box.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 5:39:10 PM EDT
In commercial .223 I would suggest 62 gr FMJ from Federal or Winchester.

They have a BC of about .28 vs .24 for XM193 and 62 gr is at about the midpoint of a 1x9's optimal range of bullet weights (50-70, per Kulek & Duff's "The Complete AR-15 Owner's Guide").

Works for me. Accuracy has always been better than 55 gr commercial in my 1x9 (tighter groups with my 3-9x40 scope), and even more so than XM193. While not as hot as XM193, it does offer another choice, especially if you want a little better accuracy at a price that won't break the bank. For example, my local ammo dealer sells FAE 55 gr for $110/500, XM193 for $115/500 and Win 62 gr for $120/500. Of course, YPMV.

My son's Oly 1x9 AR15 is zeroed with Win 62gr, and he uses it with great success at 300 yds with open irons at his range near Philadelphia. He has showed me NRA B27s with every round of a 30 rd mag on the silhouette, and the majority in center mass. (Oh, to have the eyes of a 26 year old again!)

Since future supplies of XM193 are uncertain, I try to shoot up the Win and ration my supplies of XM193 for SHTF.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 9:52:09 AM EDT
Try some Georgia Arms ammo.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 10:20:38 AM EDT
62 grn greetips from ammoman. Group alot tighter then 55grn. Priced around 200 bucks per 1000.
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