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Posted: 11/16/2003 4:30:48 PM EST

Posting my first question here so here goes. New AR owner residing in the great state of New Jersey. Currently own a bushmaster M4 and money and time are scarce at the moment so I thought about ordering a couple of stripped lowers to stash away for future projects. Stopped by a local FFL / new gunshop to inquire about a transfer. He mentioned that building up from a
stripped lower makes me a "manufacturer of firearms" requiring all appropriate licences.
Also, that building an AR is "not as easy as it seems" just buying all the parts and putting them together especially from different manufacturers could be a problem. I ask you guys here on the forum does building a AR at home require "fitting"? Aside from the required tools is there any special training involved? I obviously have no idea and would rather not get into a project that I would ultimately have to turn over to a smith to complete. My reasons for a build would be to become more familiar with the assembly of the AR, the FUN of putting one together as I like and not having to experiment with my M4. Can you simply order the parts you want from the manufacturers you want,
put it together and expect it to go BANG when the trigger is pulled?
Thanks for your replies to this basic question.

Link Posted: 11/16/2003 5:31:03 PM EST
First, it is perfectly legal for a private citizen to manufacture a gun. But, you can't sell it to anyone. Second, a stripped reciever is considered to be a firearm. It is properly labled, serialized, and requires all of the paper work an entire gun would require. Completing the AR from a striped lower is not manufacturing a gun. It has already been manufactured when you get the lower. You can subsequently sell it like any other comercialy produced gun. However, If you sell enough, BATF will come knocking on your chamber door. I don't know what BATF considers to be "enough". Thirdly, if you buy quality parts from reputable dealers you should have no problem mixing and matching parts. Didn't Ely Witney proove this about 100 years ago?! I would agree that some fraction (maybe 5%?) of roll your owns have problems, but, these are almost always solved with a little help from the board with little cost. Finally, don't skimp on the barrel. A good quality barrel will shoot well and have a nice smooth chamber.
Link Posted: 11/16/2003 7:31:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/16/2003 7:35:26 PM EST by Wingman26]
One thing about it, you found out where not to go to get a transfer! It's really pretty easy to put an AR together, purchase a lower, then order a kit from one of the vendors, I've used M&A Parts, there is also Model 1 and J&T, the kit includes an assembled upper and the parts to finish the stripped lower you bought, also the kits aren't considered firearms so you can order the kit online and have it shipped to you, the transfer dealer is only needed for the stripped lower. I have included some links below that might help you find a transfer dealer, you can find a good deal on a stripped lower on the Equipment Exchange, and check with the supplier of the lower, they might already have someone set up for transfer in your area. Equipment Exchange [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/board.html?b=7[/url] [url]http://www.gunsamerica.com/transfer.cgi[/url] [url]http://www.gunbroker.com/user/DealerNetwork.asp [/url] [url]http://www.auctionarms.com/help/FFLNetwork.cfm [/url] M&A Parts [url]http://www.m-aparts.com/[/url] Model 1 [url]http://www.model1sales.com/[/url] J&T [url]http://www.jtdistributing.com/[/url]
Link Posted: 11/16/2003 10:13:38 PM EST
Even if you were "manufacturing" a firearm without buying a registered receiver there still wouldnt be any forms to fill out as long as it was for your own use. This guy is a moron. Either that or he was just trying to get you to buy one of his convenient already-assembled rifles off the rack (most likely). Either way he isnt a guy to do buisiness with.
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