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Link Posted: 1/4/2022 10:34:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hodgexj1996:
https://imgur.com/a/V10JRw3

well, im kinda "clone-homeless" so I figure I may fit in here. Ban-Era bushmaster. 16" hbar throws a wrench in the "m4" ideology but im working with what I've got as its my first AR. This was shoved in the back of the used rack, instead of ammo I came home with a new carbine!. Indications point to nearly zero rounds through the pipe. Was looking to do a gwot inspired build up, DD omega was waiting for NICs check to clear, only to get it home and find out its got the Ares/BM piston kit and the Omega is a no go. Depending on things I may just forego the quad rail....they just look so good and this thread has me wanting to get one sorted. YHM tri rail out front with HS thorntail, streamlight, weaver CH mount and PA MD25/ACSS. I'm sure optics will change soon enough, but for now I need to run it and make sure its operationally sound.

You guys are gonna spend all my monies with me.
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First of all, with God and Dremel, all things are possible.
Link Posted: 1/4/2022 10:42:15 PM EDT
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I'm curious too
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By Hunterex:


I've jokingly called it the Sawman 2.0 config from time to time. Wish I still had the KAC rings from when I did this.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/59096/78903312_1235676939976072_36524196027401-2226322.JPG
Which tube is this?


I'm curious too


Hogue makes a tube that's a little more modular.
Link Posted: 1/4/2022 10:47:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hodgexj1996] [#3]
Originally Posted By CMCctx:

First of all, with God and Dremel, all things are possible.
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I do not disagree, though from the looks of it, it needs a good bit removed for proper clearance for barrel whip and it might mangle the rail before I achieve zero interference. I'll have to put my eyeballs on it again tomorrow and see if I can get a better look at just how much it's hitting. Was tempting to just return it and get the MI17, though the idea of a FF was appealing.
Link Posted: 1/4/2022 10:57:23 PM EDT
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@SDMF_rebel

Are you making those gangster grips for Onyx Arms?
Link Posted: 1/4/2022 11:32:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CMCctx:

First of all, with God and Dremel, all things are possible.
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... so jot that down.
Link Posted: 1/4/2022 11:45:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hodgexj1996:



I do not disagree, though from the looks of it, it needs a good bit removed for proper clearance for barrel whip and it might mangle the rail before I achieve zero interference. I'll have to put my eyeballs on it again tomorrow and see if I can get a better look at just how much it's hitting. Was tempting to just return it and get the MI17, though the idea of a FF was appealing.
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I'm not tracking. If there is room for clamshell there should be room for a DD Omega, minus maybe piston rod clearance. Barrel whip shouldn't factor in, especially with a HBAR.

Edit: looking it up you should have no problem at all
Link Posted: 1/5/2022 12:40:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
... so jot that down.
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By CMCctx:

First of all, with God and Dremel, all things are possible.
... so jot that down.
u meant a lathe and a bridgeport :)

ps those tubes are like $49 on ebay. i have a middy one. sold my rifle one. just knurled and thread onto the barrel nut.  they work great. strap wrench em on
Link Posted: 1/5/2022 5:44:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Ed_Victory] [#8]
Thinking about going 14.5” with my CQ/T build, either BA Hanson or Criterion CORE. Still undecided on the handguard.

Might try one of Midwest’s Night Fighter rails and swap a VITAL-2 and M620V over for bonus points. A URX4 would much better suit this thread but it’s more than I’d like to spend.
Link Posted: 1/5/2022 9:01:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By m1afan1000:
@SDMF_rebel

Are you making those gangster grips for Onyx Arms?
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Yes I am
Link Posted: 1/5/2022 9:12:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel:


Yes I am
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Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel:
Originally Posted By m1afan1000:
@SDMF_rebel

Are you making those gangster grips for Onyx Arms?


Yes I am

Look how casual he dropped that confirmation. Our very own Rebel, all growed up and industrialized. Proud moment for the GWOT family.
Link Posted: 1/5/2022 12:02:52 PM EDT
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New project! Waiting on the upper and Acog to get here...



Link Posted: 1/5/2022 12:12:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dobs013:
New project! Waiting on the upper and Acog to get here...

https://i.imgur.com/sBHxvZJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/LVdSJEZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uCqaovG.jpg
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Hot damn that's a clean upper! What dolt let that thing go?
Link Posted: 1/5/2022 12:37:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CMCctx:

I'm not tracking. If there is room for clamshell there should be room for a DD Omega, minus maybe piston rod clearance. Barrel whip shouldn't factor in, especially with a HBAR.

Edit: looking it up you should have no problem at all
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Originally Posted By CMCctx:
Originally Posted By Hodgexj1996:



I do not disagree, though from the looks of it, it needs a good bit removed for proper clearance for barrel whip and it might mangle the rail before I achieve zero interference. I'll have to put my eyeballs on it again tomorrow and see if I can get a better look at just how much it's hitting. Was tempting to just return it and get the MI17, though the idea of a FF was appealing.

I'm not tracking. If there is room for clamshell there should be room for a DD Omega, minus maybe piston rod clearance. Barrel whip shouldn't factor in, especially with a HBAR.

Edit: looking it up you should have no problem at all


Follow up on this, the DD Omega has hella height ID. Even a 54387" pencil barrel wouldn't touch if you stood on the end of it.
Link Posted: 1/5/2022 6:48:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CMCctx:


Follow up on this, the DD Omega has hella height ID. Even a 54387" pencil barrel wouldn't touch if you stood on the end of it.
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Can confirm this rail 100% won't fit over this stupid piston setup. Matter of fact I would have to cut the vertical supports and the top 1913 rail zero on out completely aft of the FSB for approx 2" roughly to clear the whole piston housing and clamp. Not exaggerating either. My phone takes potato pictures and wouldn't focus properly or I would post up a picture. I was hoping there would be enough room to clearance it but this will legit end up full bubba before it clears.

Edited to add: the clamshells are part of the kit and designed specifically for this. I'm still sorting through exact details of this kit with searches.
Link Posted: 1/5/2022 8:09:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hodgexj1996:



Can confirm this rail 100% won't fit over this stupid piston setup. Matter of fact I would have to cut the vertical supports and the top 1913 rail zero on out completely aft of the FSB for approx 2" roughly to clear the whole piston housing and clamp. Not exaggerating either. My phone takes potato pictures and wouldn't focus properly or I would post up a picture. I was hoping there would be enough room to clearance it but this will legit end up full bubba before it clears.

Edited to add: the clamshells are part of the kit and designed specifically for this. I'm still sorting through exact details of this kit with searches.
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Toss up some pictures when you can and measure just behind the FSB, both the width of the piston housing and the height above where the FSB meets barrel
Link Posted: 1/5/2022 8:52:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CMCctx:

Toss up some pictures when you can and measure just behind the FSB, both the width of the piston housing and the height above where the FSB meets barrel
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https://imgur.com/a/cQapSjT

here's a link to my imgur. I took updated pics.

The piston clamp is approximately .67-.69 wide (widest point inline where gas tube would be),     .67 tall (from top of barrel)   and just over 3" long before the oprod begins and maintains gas tube size.

The widest point on the clamp is wider than portions of the rail it interferes with. The clam shell sits hard against the piston housing as well.



I apologize for clouding the thread with this nonsense gents.
Link Posted: 1/5/2022 9:52:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hodgexj1996:


https://imgur.com/a/cQapSjT

here's a link to my imgur. I took updated pics.

The piston clamp is approximately .67-.69 wide (widest point inline where gas tube would be),     .67 tall (from top of barrel)   and just over 3" long before the oprod begins and maintains gas tube size.

The widest point on the clamp is wider than portions of the rail it interferes with. The clam shell sits hard against the piston housing as well.


I apologize for clouding the thread with this nonsense gents.
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@Hodgexj1996 dude no reason to apologize. You're in the right spot. It may be a tight squeeze, and minor fitting may be required (although I'm still pretty sure minor is an exaggeration). There's always some fuckery afoot here, and stick around long enough to watch everyone spend your money

@Infidel4life11 do you still have that DD Omega middy?

Can anyone confirm the inside specs of the Omega line?
Link Posted: 1/5/2022 10:05:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CMCctx:

@Hodgexj1996 dude no reason to apologize. You're in the right spot. It may be a tight squeeze, and minor fitting may be required (although I'm still pretty sure minor is an exaggeration).

@Infidel4life11 do you still have that DD Omega middy?

Can anyone confirm the inside specs of the Omega line?
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I was hopeful I could mix a nice stiff drink and just let er have it with the dremel, but this thing legit will end up with whole pieces of rail missing to fit. I didn't even know it was a freaking piston setup either so that just made this all the worse since the parts were already ordered and waiting to pick the rifle up. I did lock the calipers to the size of the piston housing clamp and it is for sure wider than the exterior omega in a few places. I was on the DD site and they give dimensions but not of the spots in question. Bleh. Might just consider another rail before I do something dumb and can't return this.

I'm totally ok with y'all helping spending my money, I can't leave shit alone......ever. Build it shoot it, tweak it repeat. Winter is here so heavy larp/dry fire season is upon me!


Link Posted: 1/6/2022 1:47:43 AM EDT
[#19]
Trijicon TriPower in the EE at a reasonable price.

No affiliation, just one of my favorite optics.
Link Posted: 1/6/2022 9:12:59 PM EDT
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https://www.ar15.com/forums/equipment-exchange/PRI-MOD-H-upper-receiver-assembly/159-2210059/

If anyone wants it.
Link Posted: 1/7/2022 11:33:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dobs013:
New project! Waiting on the upper and Acog to get here...

https://i.imgur.com/sBHxvZJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/LVdSJEZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uCqaovG.jpg
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You've been building this and all I hear about is fucking bolt guns for two weeks?
Link Posted: 1/7/2022 5:34:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel:


You've been building this and all I hear about is fucking bolt guns for two weeks?
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I’m waiting on UPS to deliver the damn upper and Acog. Weather is definitely not helping. It’s gonna be epic whenever I get my hands on it!
Link Posted: 1/7/2022 6:10:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: rgb] [#23]
Link Posted: 1/8/2022 11:58:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By rgb:
https://i.imgur.com/leB0Uoc.jpeg
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Do you have any idea the amount of shit I got for my ring levers being on that side?
Link Posted: 1/8/2022 12:14:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SSOUNN] [#25]
She’s getting there..

Link Posted: 1/8/2022 1:47:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SSOUNN:
She’s getting there..

https://i.postimg.cc/B6VmHgxL/7-DB23-DB2-63-CA-48-D4-9369-E42-B5386-DD0-B.jpg
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Oh my
Link Posted: 1/8/2022 2:01:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel:


Do you have any idea the amount of shit I got for my ring levers being on that side?
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I get it...but they are staying like that. Way more comfortable and less snag prone.

There is a lot not clone correct, which is why I didn't post it in the mk12 thread
Link Posted: 1/8/2022 4:25:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hodgexj1996] [#28]
https://imgur.com/a/BZeelSc

Phase 1 is g2g. Still sitting on the idea of a Quad rail and different optic setup, but I'm gonna see how it runs like this before I go fucking around much more. At this point it's mostly aesthetic change I'd be after. So far I'm into this like $50-75 so I can't bitch one bit. I'm not overly concerned with building a clone as I am a functional/reliable carbine.
Link Posted: 1/9/2022 2:27:42 PM EDT
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Might have to keep the short dot on this one instead of the MRE.

Link Posted: 1/9/2022 3:10:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TigerHawk:
Might have to keep the short dot on this one instead of the MRE.

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Oh lord yes!
Link Posted: 1/9/2022 3:14:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TigerHawk:
Might have to keep the short dot on this one instead of the MRE.

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That is so GWOT I can't even.

Awesome work dude
Link Posted: 1/9/2022 6:35:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TigerHawk:
Might have to keep the short dot on this one instead of the MRE.

https://i.imgur.com/yfptn8U.jpg
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Gangster GWOT.
Link Posted: 1/9/2022 8:22:08 PM EDT
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Y'all are gonna be bad influences, I can see this already.
Link Posted: 1/9/2022 8:24:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel:


You've been building this and all I hear about is fucking bolt guns for two weeks?
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To be fair, he did send pics of it. You probably were too enthralled by bolt gun talk to see it hahaha.
Link Posted: 1/9/2022 8:25:22 PM EDT
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Thanks guys, appreciated. It’s a mixup of parts but I’m pretty happy with it! Just need my damn nt4 to clear. Maybe a couple small changes.
Link Posted: 1/9/2022 9:49:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By rbutcher:


To be fair, he did send pics of it. You probably were too enthralled by bolt gun talk to see it hahaha.
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This is my guess

But now you see why I jumped on that GL/SSC thing so quickly. There was a void in my life, and RIS II is a hell of a hole to fill... Except with another RIS II...
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 2:06:04 AM EDT
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I'm new, I don't know what to do. I read the first post about mash-ups, clones, etc. Also noted the comment about how Strike Eagles weren't supposed to get shit on so that us retards wouldn't feel like we were getting picked on. This is no clone of anything. Its essentially an old SP1 on a new receiver with some other shit glued on and (yup) a Strike Eagle because I got it for Christmas from my 10 year old nephew. Haven't fired it yet but my kids did put about 2 lbs of paint on it.





Link Posted: 1/11/2022 2:19:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MexicanKerry:
I'm new, I don't know what to do. I read the first post about mash-ups, clones, etc. Also noted the comment about how Strike Eagles weren't supposed to get shit on so that us retards wouldn't feel like we were getting picked on. This is no clone of anything. Its essentially an old SP1 on a new receiver with some other shit glued on and (yup) a Strike Eagle because I got it for Christmas from my 10 year old nephew. Haven't fired it yet but my kids did put about 2 lbs of paint on it.

https://i.imgur.com/TXaRAks.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/nZfxrHD.jpg

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Not everything needs to be clone.  Enjoy your rifle.

CD
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 2:22:53 AM EDT
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Not everything needs to be clone.  Enjoy your rifle.

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I plan to. Hopefully don't shoot my belly or my dick off in the process.
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 6:06:08 PM EDT
[#40]
Finally Done.. Let’s see if the weather plays nice this weekend I’d get her Zero’d..

Link Posted: 1/11/2022 11:54:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SSOUNN:
Finally Done.. Let’s see if the weather plays nice this weekend I’d get her Zero’d..

https://i.postimg.cc/85fq7f8m/55-B3-B381-18-C2-4-F08-A135-5424-C7-F149-D9.jpg
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Oh my! Dude that's a winner! You always kill it
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 9:58:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DackJaniels] [#42]
All it needs is a FCD A2

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ETA: It's on an a5 tube that brings it over 26"
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:44:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DackJaniels:
All it needs is a FCD A2

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/400604/A1344A7B-AFE8-44FD-BAE7-F8EF2A7F83BD_jpe-2238416.JPG

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Link Posted: 1/14/2022 6:44:47 PM EDT
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Slowly getting there. Scooped an MI drop in off the EE and slapped in on today. Kinda gwot, kinda not, 100% inspired. Had to remove the barrel clamp that was just aft of the FSB. From what I can find its an extra piece bushmaster added to the ares kit and not totally necessary, nor is it very clear on what its function is. At some point ill be going back to DI anyway so ill likely modify the clamp so it fits.
Link Posted: 1/14/2022 7:28:33 PM EDT
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All it needs is a FCD A2

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/400604/A1344A7B-AFE8-44FD-BAE7-F8EF2A7F83BD_jpe-2238416.JPG

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Please... please.... push the Aimpoint alllll the way forward
Link Posted: 1/16/2022 11:06:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MexicanKerry:
I'm new, I don't know what to do. I read the first post about mash-ups, clones, etc. Also noted the comment about how Strike Eagles weren't supposed to get shit on so that us retards wouldn't feel like we were getting picked on. This is no clone of anything. Its essentially an old SP1 on a new receiver with some other shit glued on and (yup) a Strike Eagle because I got it for Christmas from my 10 year old nephew. Haven't fired it yet but my kids did put about 2 lbs of paint on it.

https://i.imgur.com/TXaRAks.jpg?1

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You'll fit right in here
Link Posted: 1/16/2022 11:22:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SgtKiwi] [#47]
Sorry wrong thread.
Link Posted: 1/16/2022 11:31:04 AM EDT
[#48]
I have a personal goal to build no more small frame ARs in 2022. How long you think I can last?
Link Posted: 1/16/2022 3:28:55 PM EDT
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I have a personal goal to build no more small frame ARs in 2022. How long you think I can last?
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Build more bolt guns. OP loves bolt gun talk.
Link Posted: 1/16/2022 3:40:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hodgexj1996:
I was hopeful I could mix a nice stiff drink and just let er have it with the dremel, but this thing legit will end up with whole pieces of rail missing to fit. I didn't even know it was a freaking piston setup either so that just made this all the worse since the parts were already ordered and waiting to pick the rifle up. I did lock the calipers to the size of the piston housing clamp and it is for sure wider than the exterior omega in a few places. I was on the DD site and they give dimensions but not of the spots in question. Bleh. Might just consider another rail before I do something dumb and can't return this.

I'm totally ok with y'all helping spending my money, I can't leave shit alone......ever. Build it shoot it, tweak it repeat. Winter is here so heavy larp/dry fire season is upon me!
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Reach out to Daniel Defense. Their customer support can answer all of your questions. I run an Omega 9 on my BCM rifle but it has a pencil barrel.



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