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Posted: 7/16/2005 4:05:53 PM EDT
Tried reading the AR pistol thread but......29 pages!!!! YIKES.

Quick question to those that know.

Interested in a BM Type 97S and thought about a vert grip on that lower rail.

Link Posted: 7/16/2005 4:07:43 PM EDT
no go.
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 4:07:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/17/2005 4:57:40 AM EDT by CK1]
The ATF feels it to be illegal. Constitutional? Doesn't matter as the ATF will still give you the short end of the stick.

If you really want to, write a $5 check to the ATF and apply for an Any Other Weapon tax stamp.

ETA: I R wrong. It's $200 as per Big Bore's correction below.
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 4:08:05 PM EDT
Makes it a SBR?
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 4:09:20 PM EDT
The BATFE says no, it becomes an AOW with that addition.
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 4:10:06 PM EDT
CURSES! That'd be super cool.

SBRs are no go in Michigan...Imagine AOW would be too....
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 4:31:11 PM EDT
The $5 charge is for transferring an AOW, not making. In order to add the VG you must MAKE an AOW, and that is on a form ! and $200, not $5. Since it cost the same to make a SBR you would be silly to make an AOW instead of an SBR. As a SBR it can have the VG AND a stock or no stock at all.
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 4:42:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Big-Bore:
The $5 charge is for transferring an AOW, not making. In order to add the VG you must MAKE an AOW, and that is on a form ! and $200, not $5. Since it cost the same to make a SBR you would be silly to make an AOW instead of an SBR. As a SBR it can have the VG AND a stock or no stock at all.



But again, not in Michigan....damn.
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 5:53:04 PM EDT
It is a shame for sure. I just moved from Indiana to Virginia and I cannot believe how much more BS I have to go through to buy a handgun and get a CCW in VA than I did in Indiana. I feel like I have moved into a communist state compared to what I am use to. Nowhere near as bad as you in Michigan, California, and other states have it but still a shock to me. What gets me is how the locals use to all the BS think they have it good. I suppose the devil you know...
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 6:10:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By easy610:
Tried reading the AR pistol thread but......29 pages!!!! YIKES.

Quick question to those that know.

Interested in a BM Type 97S and thought about a vert grip on that lower rail.



I've had a Professional Ordnance AR pistol for a couple of years. You hardly ever see the pistol version anywhere. Where is this thread you speak of? I'd be interested in scanning it.
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 6:37:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BoogerSnax:
I've had a Professional Ordnance AR pistol for a couple of years. You hardly ever see the pistol version anywhere. Where is this thread you speak of? I'd be interested in scanning it.

Do a search for it. I just posted to it today so I know that you will be able to find it and access it.
Link Posted: 7/16/2005 6:44:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Big-Bore:
The $5 charge is for transferring an AOW, not making. In order to add the VG you must MAKE an AOW, and that is on a form ! and $200, not $5. Since it cost the same to make a SBR you would be silly to make an AOW instead of an SBR. As a SBR it can have the VG AND a stock or no stock at all.



there you have it
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 4:47:15 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/19/2005 5:08:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Big-Bore:
It is a shame for sure. I just moved from Indiana to Virginia and I cannot believe how much more BS I have to go through to buy a handgun and get a CCW in VA than I did in Indiana. I feel like I have moved into a communist state compared to what I am use to. Nowhere near as bad as you in Michigan, California, and other states have it but still a shock to me. What gets me is how the locals use to all the BS think they have it good. I suppose the devil you know...



Shall issue CCW in MI and once you have it all you have to do is buy gun, walk out of store after 4473, "safety check" it at sheriff or whatnot. Sucks no SBR or F/A tho. Detroits legacy over the rest of the state.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 5:25:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:

Originally Posted By Big-Bore:
It is a shame for sure. I just moved from Indiana to Virginia and I cannot believe how much more BS I have to go through to buy a handgun and get a CCW in VA than I did in Indiana. I feel like I have moved into a communist state compared to what I am use to. Nowhere near as bad as you in Michigan, California, and other states have it but still a shock to me. What gets me is how the locals use to all the BS think they have it good. I suppose the devil you know...



Shall issue CCW in MI and once you have it all you have to do is buy gun, walk out of store after 4473, "safety check" it at sheriff or whatnot. Sucks no SBR or F/A tho. Detroits legacy over the rest of the state.



Exactly! F-ing Wayne County!
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