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Posted: 3/16/2011 11:30:29 AM EST

Background info:
Ok here is a hopefully a little different question. I have been looking at upgrading my ar15 scope and I am going to have to save quite a while for either a Nightforce or US optics so while I was thinking about it I was watching some youtube videos of the US Army marksmanship Team and they said to master iron sights before optics. So I decided I needed to do just that (I stink horribly with standard ar15 iron sights)

Question:
What are the best fixed iron sights for the ar15. The gun will be mainly used for coyote hunting and shooting targets to practice for hunting.

I have looked at everything from JP adjustable lyman front sight to standard A2 front and rear. I am having a hard time finding review on many of them. I am leaning towards the Troy industries Fixed Rear Di-optic sight and Troy industries Fixed HK style front sight
Links
http://troyind.com/%20/battlesights/troy-battlesight-rear-di-optic-aperture-doa-fixed
http://troyind.com/%20/battlesights/troy-battlesight-front-hk-fixed
What would you recommend?


Thanks
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 1:38:26 PM EST
HK sights are shit. When rushed or in poor light you'll Center the target in the front circle or half circle and pull the trigger. Shot goes low.

I like Daniel Defense fixed and Troy folding. Get the front sight with ears rather than a circle. Frankly I don't think mastery of irons is necessary to begin with anyway.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 1:48:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2011 1:52:52 PM EST by TREETOP]
I dislike HK fronts for the same reason- It's automatic to center the round "ears" of the front sight into the round aperture of the rear sight, rather than the tip of the post. You can force yourself to get used to it, but why? It doesn't give any advantage in my opinion. I really prefer the M4 style front ears, it makes the sight picture almost identical to a regular A2.
For fixed sights I'm a big fan of the LMT sights, the rear is basically like a cut down carry handle so it has standard windage and elevation adjustments. The front uses a regular A2 post and the protective ears have the same profile from the rear as an A2, so there's no learning curve in getting used to them. And they're sturdy as hell.

[edit:]
http://www.lmtstore.com/accessories/sights/tactical-front-sight-assembly.html
http://www.lmtstore.com/accessories/sights/tactical-adjustable-rear-sight.html
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 1:55:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2011 2:02:13 PM EST by Spook410]
LaRue has some nice fixed sights. $90. Bought the Troy fixed sights because they are $60 and do the same thing. They are just a little uglier. Don't like the adjustment dial not being flush on the Daniel Defense.

Troy Fixed Sight Link $62

Page of fixed and folding sights
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:58:13 PM EST
Thanks for the info and the links.

So if I understand correctly the HK style makes you shoot low but it is faster to get on target with due to you just have to "circle" the object? How does it do for far out shots? The Di - optic rear sight looks like it might help with the centering of the target with the rear sight.



I wish these guys would bring one out in standard rear aperture size http://www.creedmoorsports.com/store/product.php?productid=889882&cat=360&page=1 I would be all over that.

any Idea how the JP lyman sight does?

thanks
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:12:39 PM EST
It's not really faster.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 5:03:59 PM EST
I have both the Troy standard and DOA Di-optic rear folding sights and I personally prefer the standard aperture type for longer range shooting than my DOA.

In my own opinion the DOA aperture is too large for accurate long distance shooting, I mainly use my DOA sight for home defense/ low light use because it's easier and faster to use it than my standard round aperture rear sight.

Sometimes I use my Nikon 3-9X40 hunting scope on my AR with the Troy folding sight and it have plenty of clearance with the scope because the Troy have a pretty good low folded profile.

If you would like to have a height adjustable rear folding sight the Micro KAC (P/N: 25650) 200-600m are very good too.

For the front I prefer the standard A2 fixed type sight picture, you could either get a fixed or folding version, your choice.


http://www.knightarmco.com/mod_weapons_2.htm


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