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Posted: 9/14/2004 3:46:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 3:46:41 PM EST by Drav]
Feinstein assured us she will be back with a new bill next session, the session after that, ad infinitum, until she gets the AWB reinstated. For the good of the American public of course.

Just thought you all would like to know, though I didn't see a news article on it.

The fight isn't over, guys. We have to keep the pressure on and keep buying new lowers.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 9:12:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By Drav:
Feinstein assured us she will be back with a new bill next session, the session after that, ad infinitum, until she gets the AWB reinstated. For the good of the American public of course.

Just thought you all would like to know, though I didn't see a news article on it.

The fight isn't over, guys. We have to keep the pressure on and keep buying new lowers.

Let us start supporting republicans against her in the elections....
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 9:33:21 PM EST
Why do people keep re-electing her? Is there no maximum number of terms a senator can "serve"? We should push for a constitution amendment if there isnt and get rid of her that way. I wish she'd pull her head out and look at all the statistics that prove the AWB was not effective and move on to pushing for tough enforcement of the law. I dont really think that you can prevent crime (though you can stop it mid course with a gun), but you can prevent re-offenders.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 10:54:43 PM EST
The gun grabbers are not going away! They will come back and we must guard our rights.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:16:30 PM EST
Gungrabbers are no longer as easily distinguishable as Deb or Rep. If another AWB set foot on Dubya's desk all our evilized features would still be evil and it would be no different than the last 10 years except there would probably not be a clause saying it would end.

The two party system in the US has to stop for any progress in any direction to be made. While polititions debate on what to do for years at a time with their nice 6 figure salaries, golf clubs, yacht clubs, and the like WE the people who hold this now miserable excuse of a country togeather face still more job losses espically in IT, incomes that don't adjust to compensate for the cost of everything increasing, and ideas being thrown around with no action taken.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 1:36:02 AM EST
You see, if we have a term limit on Senators, then Zell Miller would have to go.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 2:08:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By MagKnightX:
You see, if we have a term limit on Senators, then Zell Miller would have to go.




We can make exceptions for good senators that we like, oh crap that would be just like voting huh. My sarcastic comment is suppose to mean, why worry about constitutional ammendments that won't ever happen, hell the president wants one and HE can't even get one, it ain't happening so start some anti-feinstein campaigns and vote her out. Thats my 2 cents.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 2:16:50 AM EST

Originally Posted By MagKnightX:
You see, if we have a term limit on Senators, then Zell Miller would have to go.


Zell Miller is retiring.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 3:45:26 AM EST
The thing is, as we all know, its not about the good of the country is about Control and she/it wants it. All they want is control over everthing we do. The Bill of Right is hated by these types of people and if they could it would be removed completly. Just think what this country would be like without the Bill of Right. People would be bugging out to cuba or iraq.

Link Posted: 9/15/2004 4:51:51 AM EST
What we need is simple. We need a few senators willing to fillibuster any gun control bill. The commies would never get 60 votes to override the fillibuster and any bill would die. Do we have any senators willing to fillibuster?
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 5:03:43 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2004 5:05:16 AM EST by DWW22]
I listened to what she had to say on the TV several days ago. But just how do you adjust a trigger to make an AR fire all the bullets from the clip in 3 seconds? She lost me on that one.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 5:14:44 AM EST
I hate her. hainsawkill.gif
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 6:22:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By omega-metroid:
Gungrabbers are no longer as easily distinguishable as Deb or Rep. If another AWB set foot on Dubya's desk all our evilized features would still be evil and it would be no different than the last 10 years except there would probably not be a clause saying it would end.

The two party system in the US has to stop for any progress in any direction to be made. While polititions debate on what to do for years at a time with their nice 6 figure salaries, golf clubs, yacht clubs, and the like WE the people who hold this now miserable excuse of a country togeather face still more job losses espically in IT, incomes that don't adjust to compensate for the cost of everything increasing, and ideas being thrown around with no action taken.



Not a good idea, multiple parties gets you lovely countries such as Mexico, the Phillipines, Senegal, Bangeladesh, Bulgaria and just about very other shithole in the world. When you have multiple parties you have SO many factions and special interests, it is like a fight at a family reunion, NOTHING ever gets done.

The Repbulican party needs to be reformed from the inside out. Instead of running away from the problem we all need to become politically involved with the party and renew it with a spirit of independance and freedom.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 6:31:24 AM EST
I don't want to see DiFi on TV unless she is crying over losing.

Diane, YOU LOST!! Now shut the hell up and go away!
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 7:54:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By A_Free_Man:


Diane, YOU LOST!! Now shut the hell up and go away!



She will never shut up, she doesn't know how to. Someone needs to shut her up. The poor SOB's in Kalifornia need to vote her out, simple as that!
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 12:13:41 PM EST
I just moved to this peoples republik, for school (I guess to get "re-educated"), and I can't believe the amount of......I can't even describe it. I'm around the LA area and the majority of people are so clueless to almost anything that has to do with real life. It is their own little world out here, which helps me understand why they vote the way they do. Man are they clueless, and when your clueless you get led by people like satan...... i mean the distinguished Dianne Feinstein. Owning a gun out here is almost like being a felon, which makes owning one just tons of fun! JK
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 12:24:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By alaman:
What we need is simple. We need a few senators willing to fillibuster any gun control bill. The commies would never get 60 votes to override the fillibuster and any bill would die. Do we have any senators willing to fillibuster?



Elect me. I could filibuster for weeks talking about cars, guns, or guitars
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 12:59:43 PM EST
Why do they keep re electing her?

Because she the same as Ted Kennedy in Mass take total care above and beyond the call of duty for their districts.
And remember.....
When one ass-hole disapears their will always be another ass-hole waiting to fill that same seat.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 1:00:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2004 1:01:06 PM EST by 02Corvette]
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Link Posted: 9/15/2004 1:56:16 PM EST
I watched that. Lou Dobbs was lying his through his teeth too. He was saying that semi-auto guns just aren't sporty. He also said that he used to go pheasant hunting as a young man with his friends with a SINGLE-SHOT .22. LOL



Then on Larry King Live, he had Bill Maher on as a guest, and Bill called us gun owners "the extra chromosome group". God did that piss me off. He too was up there blabbing on with lies. He obviously didn't know what the AWB was about.



Link Posted: 9/15/2004 1:58:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By nicholad:
Why do people keep re-electing her? Is there no maximum number of terms a senator can "serve"? We should push for a constitution amendment if there isnt and get rid of her that way. I wish she'd pull her head out and look at all the statistics that prove the AWB was not effective and move on to pushing for tough enforcement of the law. I dont really think that you can prevent crime (though you can stop it mid course with a gun), but you can prevent re-offenders.



The anti-gun position is not about crime.
It's about their animosity toward us. They just want to deny us that which we desire.
The bastids.

Regards,
Mild Bill
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 3:07:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/15/2004 3:08:39 PM EST by edpmedic]
Thank you
02Corvette No body understands that....
There is no one that is on our side to elect and in a way I can see why. I hate to say it but almost everyone who owns a gun would give up HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, SOCIAL SECURITY, JOBS and all those other important things. Just so they could have their PRE-BANS. In a way isn't that taking sides not that there is anyone running that will help with the above.
Lets say those 4 things could be fixed and I mean fixed that we all had coverage and security in the future. That our children could go to school and have a education that will get them a Job later on. Lets say NAFTA was the real deal equal trade and decline in poverty. Lets say someone or some party could get that done, but you had to give up you Assualt weapons 50 cal, hunting rifle except for certain calibers.
Would you vote for that party? In reality life could get better but you had to give up that single right you got the balls to do it to make a better world for you and maybe your children. It's funny all this crap about Kerry being a Nam Hero and Bush not doing his duty.
Not one true week devoted to any of these issues or the right to life issue. This whole campaign revolved around AWB and things 35 yrs old. JUST what the candidates wanted. Don't think of the future keep us in a past that was just has violent and divided has the world will be in the future.

So would you give it up......Hate to say I would and I would do it today if someone could make this world a better and safer place. Seems like this should be in the GD section and not here.....
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 3:32:29 PM EST
edpmedic, I understand what you are saying, but I think you are looking at it from a liberal point of view. The assumption is that giving up our "PRE BANS" is some way directly related to having health care coverage for everyone. (just using part of your example) The reality of the situation is that the two have nothing to do with each other. Politicians just want to make you believe that there is, because, simply, they are politicians. Us having proper health care, saftey for our children, etc; has to do with ONE thing and one thing only. US!! It is only because people are not of a single collective "way of thinking". For that reason there will always be conflict and things will not progress to the point that they should. Please don't construe this to mean that our goal as a people should be to move towards universalism, but rather we choose what is right and not waver. This idea of "give and take" is fine to a point, but there are lines. Don't let them get you thinking that the reason we don't have healthcare or things to that nature is because we won't give up things like our "pre bans". Sorry for the rant guys. You may now commence with the flaming!
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 3:48:17 PM EST
She's from San Francisco. As far as I am concerned, she and her city aren't even a part of this country. Never tell a Babyboomer they are wrong, they will keep coming at you until you stick 'em with a hot poker. Fuck her, who cares she's an old bitch. It's going to be next to near impossible to get another ban in this lifetime after letting this one expire. The media won't let it go, their still whining over it. Fuck 'em.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 3:52:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By edpmedic:
Thank you
02Corvette No body understands that....
There is no one that is on our side to elect and in a way I can see why. I hate to say it but almost everyone who owns a gun would give up HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, SOCIAL SECURITY, JOBS and all those other important things. Just so they could have their PRE-BANS. In a way isn't that taking sides not that there is anyone running that will help with the above.
Lets say those 4 things could be fixed and I mean fixed that we all had coverage and security in the future. That our children could go to school and have a education that will get them a Job later on. Lets say NAFTA was the real deal equal trade and decline in poverty. Lets say someone or some party could get that done, but you had to give up you Assualt weapons 50 cal, hunting rifle except for certain calibers.
Would you vote for that party? In reality life could get better but you had to give up that single right you got the balls to do it to make a better world for you and maybe your children. It's funny all this crap about Kerry being a Nam Hero and Bush not doing his duty.
Not one true week devoted to any of these issues or the right to life issue. This whole campaign revolved around AWB and things 35 yrs old. JUST what the candidates wanted. Don't think of the future keep us in a past that was just has violent and divided has the world will be in the future.

So would you give it up......Hate to say I would and I would do it today if someone could make this world a better and safer place. Seems like this should be in the GD section and not here.....



I'll give up government sponsored education, I am 100% against Social Security, 100% against universal health care and so should you. Time had it in this land a man provided for himself. I need and want nothing from the government. You really wanna scare them? Forget about guns, just refuse their programs and tell them you don't need them or want them. Then get ready for UN convoys.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 4:05:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By SGTUrrutia:
I watched that. Lou Dobbs was lying his through his teeth too. He was saying that semi-auto guns just aren't sporty. He also said that he used to go pheasant hunting as a young man with his friends with a SINGLE-SHOT .22. LOL



Then on Larry King Live, he had Bill Maher on as a guest, and Bill called us gun owners "the extra chromosome group". God did that piss me off. He too was up there blabbing on with lies. He obviously didn't know what the AWB was about.



That's because they all subscribe to the "The 2nd Amendment is about hunting" view. I wish someone would straight up tell them that it's about recognizing the constituency must have the power to be able to thwart oppressive, unconstitutional authority from seizing the gov't. The term 'hunting' is found nowhere in the constitution. Nowhere.

When Dobbs & co. make reference to hunting, they are intentionally side-stepping the issue.


Originally Posted By Mild Bill:
The anti-gun position is not about crime.
It's about their animosity toward us. They just want to deny us that which we desire.



10-ringer!
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 4:06:32 PM EST
So when is she up for re-election. All we need to do is find an arfcom member to fit the bill of war hero, upstanding member of the SF or LA community, ect.................................to run against her as a demacrate in the primary and then if he or she loses to run as an independent in the national election.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 4:22:49 PM EST
She'll never stop and neither will WE!!
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