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9/22/2017 12:11:25 AM
Posted: 9/26/2005 8:49:25 AM EDT
How do i install a fake aluminum silencer to my threaded barrel
the fake silencer is threaded aluminum and i cant find a solder to join the two together
and it has to have a melting point of 1100 degrees

Thanks MGP
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 12:03:10 PM EDT
why do you want to permanently attach it? do you have a barrel shorter than 16"? Silver Solder is the only acceptable soldering method. You need to use a MAPP torch and get the steel red hot, or at least you do when installing Flash Supressors like the Phantoms. I'm not sure you want to do that with aluminum though...

What exactly are you up to?
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 12:45:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/29/2005 8:32:00 AM EDT by MGP]
Yes barrel is 9.5'' and i have a 7 5/8'' inch fake silencer
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 5:10:44 PM EDT
You cannot silver solder, weld or braze alum. to steel ,you will have to blind pin the '' suppressor'' to the barrel. Use a 3/32 dia. or 1/8 dia. dowel pin or some drill rod. Make the length of the pin short enough so that when its driven into (NOT THRU) the barrel it is about 1/8 in. below the surface of the '' suppressor''. then you can have somebody that can weld alum. fill in the hole. File the weld smooth& re finish and your done. If you do it right you wont even know it was welded. hope this helps PATRIOT ARMORY.
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 6:15:16 PM EDT
Thanks
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 7:43:51 AM EDT
got pictures of what you are up to?
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 7:47:59 AM EDT
i will never understand this sort of thing.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 8:29:41 AM EDT
why on earth would you simply not use a longer barrel?

The fake silencer isn't going to do anything but hurt ballistics.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 9:34:54 AM EDT
and ruin his barrel...
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 12:36:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Raven_Fire:
i will never understand this sort of thing.

Link Posted: 9/27/2005 4:10:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By aerofocus:
why on earth would you simply not use a longer barrel?

The fake silencer isn't going to do anything but hurt ballistics.


Just for the looks and i do not think im going to hurt ballistics on a 9mm Thanks MGP
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 7:36:33 AM EDT
yeah, you will if you are going from a 16" carbine barrel to an 8" barrel or similar...

shortening the barrel will hurt ballistics.

What size barrel are you doing this on anyway? I promise I will be nice and helpful...
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 11:29:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/28/2005 11:31:44 AM EDT by MGP]

Originally Posted By JosephR:
yeah, you will if you are going from a 16" carbine barrel to an 8" barrel or similar...

shortening the barrel will hurt ballistics.

What size barrel are you doing this on anyway? I promise I will be nice and helpful...



9.5 inch and im not going to worry about ballistics on my 9mm im not shooting this 9mm at 100 yards.
For the distance im shooting at it will and did not hurt accuracy. MGP
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 12:02:29 PM EDT
The one plan that was mentioned using a blind pin method is the best. Don't let anyone get you down. I would personally rather have a 11.5 inch barrel with the permanant 5.5 FH than a 16 inch barrel when dealing with the 9mm. It looks really good with the A1 sights too.

Good luck.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 12:40:39 PM EDT
Thanks Guys for all your help


MGP
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 10:08:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MGP:
9.5 inch and im not going to worry about ballistics on my 9mm im not shooting this 9mm at 100 yards.
MGP



Hmmmm...

9.5" long barrel huh?
Muzzle thread length is usually 5/8"
So you really have 8 7/8" to the shoulder that the fake suppresor will tighten against before it is permanent attached.
You say the fake can is 6" long?
If so, you are only 14 7/8" long.
You would need at least a 7 1/8" and preferrably a 7 1/4" long fake can to make this work.
I advise you to be sure that the barrel exceeds 16" length with the permanent attached muzzle device before you mount it to a rifle lower.
Remember that the measurements are taken with the bolt in battery, no ammo in the chamber.
A 16.0000" long rod is dropped down the bore from the muzzle.
NONE of that rod can protrude beyond the end of the barrel.

Randall
Link Posted: 9/29/2005 7:21:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Randall_Rausch:

Originally Posted By MGP:
9.5 inch and im not going to worry about ballistics on my 9mm im not shooting this 9mm at 100 yards.
MGP



Hmmmm...

9.5" long barrel huh?
Muzzle thread length is usually 5/8"
So you really have 8 7/8" to the shoulder that the fake suppresor will tighten against before it is permanent attached.
You say the fake can is 6" long?
If so, you are only 14 7/8" long.
You would need at least a 7 1/8" and preferrably a 7 1/4" long fake can to make this work.
I advise you to be sure that the barrel exceeds 16" length with the permanent attached muzzle device before you mount it to a rifle lower.
Remember that the measurements are taken with the bolt in battery, no ammo in the chamber.
A 16.0000" long rod is dropped down the bore from the muzzle.
NONE of that rod can protrude beyond the end of the barrel.

Randall



The fake can is 7 5/8'' long so it measures over 16" just to be safe Thanks MGP
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