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Posted: 4/4/2017 12:47:11 AM EDT

Since colt made the 6920 I've wanted one but I saw others from spikes tactical, bcm and I saw the FN 15 carbine yesterday. Is it the same as the colt if not better?

Posted: 4/4/2017 10:09:11 AM EDT

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The FN carbines use mystery receiver extensions and Colt carbines use 7075 receiver extensions... So Colt is a better buy.

The FN carbines could very well have 7075 receiver extensions though, it's just that know one knows.

The finish on the FN line of ARs does look nicer if that's important to you.

Posted: 4/4/2017 10:43:59 AM EDT

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Rather then read opinions on a forum based on hearsay, go out and handle both Colt and FN's and make an informed decision.

Posted: 4/4/2017 10:50:40 AM EDT

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I don't know about you, but I don't have a tricorder built into my hands, so handling both won't tell me much about the materials used and quality of assembly unless there's something glaringly obvious.

OP's got a valid question.

Posted: 4/4/2017 11:44:33 AM EDT

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I don't know about you, but I don't have a tricorder built into my hands, so handling both won't tell me much about the materials used and quality of assembly unless there's something glaringly obvious.

OP's got a valid question.

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Exactly this.

Why do so many people think that handling something will tell them anymore than what the fit and finish is like.

Posted: 4/4/2017 12:44:49 PM EDT

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FN makes good stuff. If you buy an FN it will be fine, and give you good service for a long long time. As would the Colt, BCM, Spikes, or anything else you might be looking at.

Posted: 4/4/2017 1:11:50 PM EDT

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FN has had the Military M4a1 contract for a while. FN also makes the M249, M240, and M2 50cal, just to name a few. They are a very good company IMO.

Posted: 4/4/2017 4:27:05 PM EDT

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The FN carbines use mystery receiver extensions and Colt carbines use 7075 receiver extensions... So Colt is a better buy.

The FN carbines could very well have 7075 receiver extensions though, it's just that know one knows.

The finish on the FN line of ARs does look nicer if that's important to you.

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Does it really matter on what the receiver extension is made of?

Posted: 4/4/2017 4:31:36 PM EDT

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FN makes good stuff. If you buy an FN it will be fine, and give you good service for a long long time. As would the Colt, BCM, Spikes, or anything else you might be looking at.

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That's my problem. Picking one out of those manufacturers?

Posted: 4/4/2017 4:43:09 PM EDT

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FN has had the Military M4a1 contract for a while. FN also makes the M249, M240, and M2 50cal, just to name a few. They are a very good company IMO.

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This...nothing at all to worry about with an FN.

Posted: 4/4/2017 4:51:01 PM EDT

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Valid question, valid answer, FN

Posted: 4/4/2017 6:10:28 PM EDT

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Ok so FN is a good company. Is it a superior company compared to colt

Posted: 4/4/2017 7:22:24 PM EDT

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FNH is a much better company, but Colt makes the better M4.

Posted: 4/4/2017 7:30:24 PM EDT

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One next to the other here - my favorite is Colt.
(Top FN Military collector edition, bottom 6920 with pinned and welded flash hider by SAW)

M4s by SoloDallas, on Flickr

Posted: 4/4/2017 8:15:26 PM EDT

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It's hard not to be a smartass when answering these questions. Is Colt better then a BCM, DD, Spikes, PSA, Rock River etc. Truth be told, I'd take a rifle from anyone of them and be happy.
My carbine has a Colt barrel, BCM charging handle, Geissele trigger, Magpul stock and trigger guard, Laue mount and grip and a bunch of other good quality stuff. Is a Colt better then my rifle?
Is my carbine better then a Colt? I have a little personal experience with FN and they do make a darn good rifle, as do the others. My only advise would be to steer clear of the bargain basement AR's.
If your choice is narrowed down to the 2 mentioned, you will be fine either way.

Posted: 4/4/2017 8:27:37 PM EDT

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Yes, FN is good to go. Like an earlier post said there are many rifles that you would be happy with. I have bushy, BCM, core 15, DD, PSA, FN, and mut guns, my duty rifle is a colt and I am happy with all of them. Get the FN and don't look back.

Posted: 4/4/2017 9:46:56 PM EDT

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FNH is a much better company, but Colt makes the better M4.

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How does colt make the better m4

Posted: 4/4/2017 9:47:57 PM EDT

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One next to the other here - my favorite is Colt.
(Top FN Military collector edition, bottom 6920 with pinned and welded flash hider by SAW)

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Nice guns. BTW why did you pin and weld the 6920? I thought it wasn't pinned and welded

Posted: 4/4/2017 10:05:44 PM EDT

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Does it really matter on what the receiver extension is made of?

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To me, yes but in reality for most people's uses, probably not.

Posted: 4/4/2017 11:05:18 PM EDT

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Nice guns. BTW why did you pin and weld the 6920? I thought it wasn't pinned and welded

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If you look it up the way SAW does it, you'll understand. That M4 is exactly the same size of a SBR but legal.
please look up Specialized Armament Warehouse

Posted: 4/4/2017 11:33:28 PM EDT

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If you look it up the way SAW does it, you'll understand. That M4 is exactly the same size of a SBR but legal.
please look up Specialized Armament Warehouse

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I just did. Did you send your colt to them?

Posted: 4/4/2017 11:43:42 PM EDT

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I have two. One I sent, the other I bought directly from them.

I would do it again. And again. And again.

Posted: 4/5/2017 12:40:00 AM EDT

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Colt has been building AR15 style of rifles for decades. Their factory is equipped with proprietary machines and test equipment which costs millions of dollars. Colt assembles their rifles to the highest reliability standards. Nobody in the industry can even come close. This is extremely important in you want a rifle that functions flawlessly for many years, even decades. FNH just recently got an M4 contract, while they have some of the most innovative and iconic weapons of all time, building M4s is not an art they have mastered as well as Colt has. Nor do they have any of Colt's proprietary machines.

Posted: 4/5/2017 1:13:19 AM EDT

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Colt has been building AR15 style of rifles for decades. Their factory is equipped with proprietary machines and test equipment which costs millions of dollars. Colt assembles their rifles to the highest reliability standards. Nobody in the industry can even come close. This is extremely important in you want a rifle that functions flawlessly for many years, even decades. FNH just recently got an M4 contract, while they have some of the most innovative and iconic weapons of all time, building M4s is not an art they have mastered as well as Colt has. Nor do they have any of Colt's proprietary machines.

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Its not that I don't believe you it's just that so many people don't realize that colt is still doing good on their ARs when it comes to quality despite their troubled past. I have a colt m4 carbine issued to me and I like it. If colt didn't do a good job I'm sure the military wouldnt use them. I'll settle with the colt then

Posted: 4/5/2017 3:16:46 PM EDT

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I did it the ARFCOM way....have both a Colt and FN.

Posted: 4/5/2017 5:51:20 PM EDT

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I did it the ARFCOM way....have both a Colt and FN.

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I wish I can do it the arfcom way

Posted: 4/6/2017 1:02:04 AM EDT

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I like my FN15 Tactical, would buy again.

Posted: 4/6/2017 3:17:26 AM EDT

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Since colt made the 6920 I've wanted one but I saw others from spikes tactical, bcm and I saw the FN 15 carbine yesterday. Is it the same as the colt if not better?

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Between Colt and FN - I wouldn't question which is superior in regards to quality/reliability but rather which roll mark do I like best

Personally, I wish FN would've used their mil. collectors(contract) roll marks on their basic FN15 and ditched that huge white laser engraving.

Posted: 4/6/2017 10:41:25 AM EDT

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Between Colt and FN - I wouldn't question which is superior in regards to quality/reliability but rather which roll mark do I like best

Personally, I wish FN would've used their mil. collectors(contract) roll marks on their basic FN15 and ditched that huge white laser engraving.

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I must say I agree.

Just sold my FN 'military edition' yesterday. I just couldn't digest the looks of certain things and I buy these for looks mostly.

Done. Colt stays, FN went.

Posted: 4/6/2017 3:24:20 PM EDT

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Colt is better imo, but you're not going to regret either one.

Posted: 4/6/2017 5:32:33 PM EDT

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Thanks everyone. Inot surprised none of you guys brought up QC issues and cosmetic flaws like alot of people do

Posted: 4/6/2017 10:17:58 PM EDT

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I'd go LMT if money were not a factor

Posted: 4/7/2017 1:37:13 AM EDT

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Between Colt and FN - I wouldn't question which is superior in regards to quality/reliability but rather which roll mark do I like best

Personally, I wish FN would've used their mil. collectors(contract) roll marks on their basic FN15 and ditched that huge white laser engraving.

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Since colt made the 6920 I've wanted one but I saw others from spikes tactical, bcm and I saw the FN 15 carbine yesterday. Is it the same as the colt if not better?

Between Colt and FN - I wouldn't question which is superior in regards to quality/reliability but rather which roll mark do I like best

Personally, I wish FN would've used their mil. collectors(contract) roll marks on their basic FN15 and ditched that huge white laser engraving.

Agreed. FN rollmark is just... garish. Collectors rollmarks would've been a lot nicer.

Posted: 4/7/2017 3:06:04 AM EDT

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Colt is better.

Posted: 4/7/2017 11:19:57 AM EDT

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Colt is better.

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Than LMT? I thought it's high end

Posted: 4/7/2017 11:42:51 AM EDT

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There is nothing wrong with LMT.

Posted: 4/7/2017 12:03:46 PM EDT

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LMT makes quality products. But Colt has the better M4.

Posted: 4/7/2017 1:20:48 PM EDT

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Bump for Colt M4s (various images)

Colt 6920 SAW by SoloDallas, on Flickr

Colt M4 An/PEQ2A by SoloDallas, on Flickr

Colt SAW M4s by SoloDallas, on Flickr

SAW Colt M4 - 13 Hours - by SoloDallas, on Flickr

SAW Colt M4 by SoloDallas, on Flickr

Posted: 4/7/2017 2:20:35 PM EDT

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Colt is better.

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I'd go LMT if money were not a factor

Colt is better.

I don't think Colt is "better" than LMT

Posted: 4/7/2017 3:07:41 PM EDT

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Comparing M4 to M4 they are almost equal but Colt has the edge due to having finish under the FSB and using taper pins instead of dowel pins to pin the FSB.

I could be wrong but I think LMT also uses carbine buffers instead of H buffers and AR15 carriers instead of M16 carriers... Does anyone know for sure on this?

Posted: 4/7/2017 4:51:37 PM EDT

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Comparing M4 to M4 they are almost equal but Colt has the edge due to having finish under the FSB and using taper pins instead of dowel pins to pin the FSB.

I could be wrong but I think LMT also uses carbine buffers instead of H buffers and AR15 carriers instead of M16 carriers... Does anyone know for sure on this?

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I don't think Colt is "better" than LMT

Comparing M4 to M4 they are almost equal but Colt has the edge due to having finish under the FSB and using taper pins instead of dowel pins to pin the FSB.

I could be wrong but I think LMT also uses carbine buffers instead of H buffers and AR15 carriers instead of M16 carriers... Does anyone know for sure on this?

Regarding carriers, they definitely used to always use semi carriers, but that was years ago. I don't know if that's still the case.

Posted: 4/7/2017 5:06:03 PM EDT

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Bump for Colt M4s (various images)

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7355/27472220661_0454419748_h.jpg
Colt 6920 SAW by SoloDallas, on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7403/26828051050_30ef8d6f6d_h.jpg
Colt M4 An/PEQ2A by SoloDallas, on Flickr

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Colt SAW M4s by SoloDallas, on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7285/26833962811_cc0a53345b_h.jpg
SAW Colt M4 - 13 Hours - by SoloDallas, on Flickr

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SAW Colt M4 by SoloDallas, on Flickr

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Nice colts. So saw pretty much makes your colts m4 carbine clone correct?

Posted: 4/7/2017 5:36:34 PM EDT

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Look guys, when it comes to AR style of rifles, it's either Colt LE6920, or HK MR556A1. And that's out of any and all AR variants (hundreds of them on the market, from dozens of manufacturers). Me, personally, I would pick the Colt due to extreme difference in weight. I hate heavy guns. That being said, HK is the best weapons manufacturer in the world, always has been and will be in the foreseeable future. Followed by FNH.

Posted: 4/7/2017 6:02:46 PM EDT

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Correct (they will work on the barrel and internals - only if you want them to).
The rifle stays legal, no stamp, no SBR, nothing.

I have had two uppers done like this by SAW's owner and I'd buy more if I could.
I just can't stand (the look of) 16"+ M4 barrels - I never could.

Posted: 4/7/2017 7:58:52 PM EDT

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Look guys, when it comes to AR style of rifles, it's either Colt LE6920, or HK MR556A1. And that's out of any and all AR variants (hundreds of them on the market, from dozens of manufacturers). Me, personally, I would pick the Colt due to extreme difference in weight. I hate heavy guns. That being said, HK is the best weapons manufacturer in the world, always has been and will be in the foreseeable future. Followed by FNH.

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So you're saying is FNH is a better weapons manufacturer than colt?

Posted: 4/7/2017 8:02:33 PM EDT

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Correct (they will work on the barrel and internals - only if you want them to).
The rifle stays legal, no stamp, no SBR, nothing.

I have had two uppers done like this by SAW's owner and I'd buy more if I could.
I just can't stand (the look of) 16"+ M4 barrels - I never could.

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Eh it doesn't bother me much. I've been issued the m4 carbine for about 4 years the 16 inch doesn't irritate me. Just my opinion

Posted: 4/7/2017 9:43:27 PM EDT

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After looking at several different brand rifles last year I purchased a FNH Tactical Carbine and after shooting about a thousand rounds thru it I built a copy with the same stock, grip, forearm and a DD barrel to play with. The FN has a hammer forged barrel and thinks its a varmint rifle. 100% reliable so far and not showing any signs of wear running mainly 77gr SMK or Nosler handloads.

No weird pin sizes, emasculated BCG or metal block where the auto sear would go like some of Colt's civilian rifles I've dealt with in the past. I know Colt has stopped those antics but I'm a Capricorn and we don't forgive easily.

I've spoken with FN employees at different venues and they say the civy guns are built in the same line by the same guys who build the .mil guns using the same parts except where NFA concerns. One rep said they tried to get the .mil to go to CHF barrels but the "spec" calls for button rifled so that's what they get.

Even with my aversion to Colt's business policies over the years they make THE AR15 (and own that name). The question about any non-Colt should be "is it as good?" as a Colt.

PS - I like the FN roll mark but mine isn't a different color than the lower itself.

Posted: 4/7/2017 9:45:44 PM EDT

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DD and BCM > Colt

Posted: 4/7/2017 11:54:36 PM EDT

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So you're saying is FNH is a better weapons manufacturer than colt?

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As I've mentioned before, yes overall. But no way do they make a better M4.

Posted: 4/7/2017 11:56:05 PM EDT

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LOL! BCM better than Colt? That's bonafide crazy talk.

Posted: 4/9/2017 6:57:15 PM EDT

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For a basic m4 look the colt is better but I've heard bcm has a better QC and has more options than a Colt

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