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Link Posted: 12/27/2006 10:41:10 AM EST
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Originally Posted By NickDrak:
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Originally Posted By captplanit:
hey guys, I am trying to find a pic of a 9 inch troy ind rail on a 14.5 inch barreled ar15

anyone seen this before?


Depends. Are you looking for a 14.5" M4 with a carbine length gas system and a low-profile gasblock under the rail, or a mid-length gas system 14.5" barrel with a standard FSB (fixed front sight)?

carbine length gas system and a low-profile gasblock under the rail

thanks
Link Posted: 12/31/2006 2:53:21 PM EST
actually, nevermind.

I saw one today
Link Posted: 1/21/2007 1:21:48 PM EST
I'd actually like to see a pic, if anybody has one, of a Troy MRF-M (9 inch) on a 14.5 inch midlength barrel with a low pro gas block. Thanks.
Link Posted: 1/21/2007 1:47:15 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/21/2007 1:48:44 PM EST
couldnt find it with the lo pro GB.
Link Posted: 1/22/2007 8:29:49 AM EST
How about a Carbine Length replacement rail for a POF 415 upper ?
Link Posted: 2/6/2007 12:58:45 PM EST
I just received one of Badger Ordnance's Stabilizer Hanguards for my AR-10. The price was right and I like the look at feel. However, I can't find any information about the "T" slot down the bottom of the handguard. I read somewhere about a "handstop slot" on the bottom of one of their models. I assume that's what this is. I can imagine what a handstop slot is used for, but where would I get and handstop (if I wanted one)?

Next question; (probably better put in the build section, but since I'm on the subject) any helpful hints for installing one of these? I've put in a few FF handguards, but this is a bit different...
Link Posted: 3/7/2007 9:35:54 AM EST
any way we could update the chart on the first page with newer offerings, e.g. VLTOR, JP VTAC, DD LITE, etc.
Link Posted: 3/12/2007 8:57:04 AM EST
Here are some updated weight from us:

WITHOUT barrel nut:

LT15 7.0   8oz
LT15 9.0 10oz
LT15 10.0 10.8oz
LT15 11.0 Gooseneck 10.7oz
LT15 12.0 12.8oz
LT15 13.2 14.0oz

Barrel nut 3oz


- Austin.
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 6:50:27 PM EST
A little off topic but I have to ask.

Where could I find a write up on how to replace my stock front grip with a Midwest Industries rail? I have a RRA 16" CAR A4. Thanks!
Link Posted: 3/25/2007 3:58:33 PM EST
Is there any listing of the width measurements of the 2-piece and FF handguards?  I've seen a lot of references to weights but couldn't find widths.  Thanks for any help.
Mainrotor
Link Posted: 3/29/2007 8:23:44 AM EST

Originally Posted By CFII:
Here are some updated weight from us:

WITHOUT barrel nut:

LT15 7.0   8oz
LT15 9.0 10oz
LT15 10.0 10.8oz
LT15 11.0 Gooseneck 10.7oz
LT15 12.0 12.8oz
LT15 13.2 14.0oz

Barrel nut 3oz


- Austin.


Austin,

There seems to be some discrepancies:


Originally Posted By CFII:
I just got done with the digital scale:

Rails assemblies minus barrel nut:

7.0 Rail is 8.8oz
9.0 Rail is 10.8oz
10.0 Rail is 11.6oz
11.0 Gooseneck is 11.5oz
12.0 is 13.6oz
13.2 is 14.8oz

17-4 Stainless barrel nut is 3oz

There ya'll are, straight from us at LaRue.


Posted on 8 March 2007, here.

Justin
Link Posted: 4/23/2007 10:30:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/23/2007 10:31:42 PM EST by urbankaos04]
The MI weights need to be updated too:



MI (Midwest Industries inc.) is/has released a Generation 2 version of their handguards (both free float and non free float).

The main upgrade/improvement is their new lighter weight. After some additional machining to the inside of the handguards they averaged a 15% drop in weight.

New Weights

MCTAR-17 (2 Piece Carbine Length)
MCTAR-17C (2 Piece Carbine Length Colt© Mfg. Guns)
Weight: 9.9 oz.


MCTAR-18 (2 Piece Mid Length)
Weight: 12.4 oz.


MCTAR-19 (2 Piece Full Length Rifle)
Weight: 16.0 oz.


MCTAR-20 (2 Piece Free Float Carbine Length Forearm)
Weight: 11.0 oz.


MCTAR-20X (2 Piece Free Float Extended Carbine Length Forearm)
Weight: 14.0 oz.


MCTAR-21 (2 Piece Free Float Mid Length Forearm)
Weight: 13.5 oz.


MCTAR-22 (2 Piece Free Float Full Length Forearm)
Weight: 17.1 oz.


MCTAR-24 (2 Piece Free Float Forearm 10" Length)
Weight: 14.7 oz
.


ETA:  Paul, of BRAVO COMPANY, posted the above info on one of his ads.
Link Posted: 5/12/2007 3:31:59 PM EST
http://www.cmore.com/quadrail.html#Anchor-4349

I just picked up a c-more systems quad rail to put over a 16" Bushmaster SuperLight barrel.  I just wanted an inexspensive FF quad rail and the price seemed reasonable.  Does anyone have any experience with this product?  It seems to be built well but I guess I won't know until I get it installed.

p.s. - If there are tricks to installing it (that aren't in the "installing a FF tube" post) please let me know.
Link Posted: 5/28/2007 9:08:24 PM EST
Hope this is the right thread. Anyone know where to get a handguard like the one on the bushmaster gas piston?
Thanks
CB
Link Posted: 5/29/2007 9:43:20 AM EST

Originally Posted By cussingboy:
Hope this is the right thread. Anyone know where to get a handguard like the one on the bushmaster gas piston?
Thanks
CB


I would guess POF since they make the upper for Bushmaster.
Link Posted: 7/6/2007 12:40:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/7/2007 3:22:19 PM EST by jdr724]
Anyone got the weight for the Surefire M73???
Thanks
John
Link Posted: 7/16/2007 12:17:13 PM EST
What's the deal with the Samson MRFS?  Are they no longer being made?  They don't have them on the website anymore.  I've been wanting one for a while, so I'm trying if I should order one now while I still can.
Link Posted: 7/17/2007 10:49:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By Mike92GT:
What's the deal with the Samson MRFS?  Are they no longer being made?  They don't have them on the website anymore.  I've been wanting one for a while, so I'm trying if I should order one now while I still can.


Check out the Troy v. Sampson lawsuit info thread. Sampson lost a suit and can't make the rails anymore.
Link Posted: 7/17/2007 1:15:13 PM EST
Thanks, I kinda figured it was something like that, just couldn't find the info



Check out the Troy v. Sampson lawsuit info thread. Sampson lost a suit and can't make the rails anymore.
Link Posted: 7/19/2007 6:50:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/19/2007 8:31:55 PM EST by USAFSHOOTER]
Hi, I don't know if this was covered or not, but I was wondering what the numbers and letters on my flat top rail and my handguards are for? I have a mid-length
High Standard arms M-4 with carbine handguards.
Link Posted: 7/20/2007 3:17:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By USAFSHOOTER:
Hi, I don't know if this was covered or not, but I was wondering what the numbers and letters on my flat top rail and my handguards are for? I have a mid-length
High Standard arms M-4 with carbine handguards.


Reference marks so you can put stuff back on in the same place.
Link Posted: 7/28/2007 9:07:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By urbankaos04:
The MI weights need to be updated too:



MI (Midwest Industries inc.) is/has released a Generation 2 version of their handguards (both free float and non free float).

The main upgrade/improvement is their new lighter weight. After some additional machining to the inside of the handguards they averaged a 15% drop in weight.

New Weights

MCTAR-17 (2 Piece Carbine Length)
MCTAR-17C (2 Piece Carbine Length Colt© Mfg. Guns)
Weight: 9.9 oz.


MCTAR-18 (2 Piece Mid Length)
Weight: 12.4 oz.


MCTAR-19 (2 Piece Full Length Rifle)
Weight: 16.0 oz.


MCTAR-20 (2 Piece Free Float Carbine Length Forearm)
Weight: 11.0 oz.


MCTAR-20X (2 Piece Free Float Extended Carbine Length Forearm)
Weight: 14.0 oz.


MCTAR-21 (2 Piece Free Float Mid Length Forearm)
Weight: 13.5 oz.


MCTAR-22 (2 Piece Free Float Full Length Forearm)
Weight: 17.1 oz.


MCTAR-24 (2 Piece Free Float Forearm 10" Length)
Weight: 14.7 oz
.


ETA:  Paul, of BRAVO COMPANY, posted the above info on one of his ads.


I will be picking up a set of them from B Co soon.
Link Posted: 8/4/2007 5:35:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By CitySlicker:
There seems to be some discrepancies:


Anyone ever get solid numbers from LaRue?

Chart Update?
Link Posted: 9/3/2007 1:51:47 PM EST
All the technical info on these forearms is great, but I'd like to see more reviews from those of you that have them on your AR's.  I've looked through this thread & haven't found the answer to an earlier question about the Surefire M85's & I'm also debating on the MI #18's.  How did the install go, good tight fit up, is there any torqueing/rotation when using a forward pistol grip, overall opinion, do you wish you'd bought another brand?  Thanks for any answers.
Link Posted: 9/3/2007 5:24:25 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/3/2007 5:30:39 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/28/2007 6:58:15 PM EST
I am sorry if this is the wrong place to post, I have read here for awhile but never really post. I have a KA M5 RAS onmy bushmaster dissipator, I shaved the inner part of the top rail for the gas block and the rail is rock solid. The bottom rail is tight until i put a fore grip on it and it has some play, is this normal for such a high quality rail system? Is there a way to fix this without getting a FF? Do other 2 piece rail systems have this problem? Thanks everyone.
Link Posted: 10/20/2007 10:12:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/20/2007 10:14:16 PM EST by jeri534]
What is the general consensus on the Samson MFRS-C, Im thinking about picking up the Stag Upper with one already installed and was just wondering if it was a pretty good forend.
Link Posted: 12/5/2007 9:00:32 PM EST
I love my DD Omega Rail!

Link Posted: 12/25/2007 9:18:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/25/2007 9:19:17 PM EST by Soybomb]
Does anyone know if the larue rails will fit over a chopped off FSB like is shown in the big how-to thread? http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=226782

Information on gas block options like that that fit/don't fit each rail system might be handy.
Link Posted: 12/27/2007 9:32:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/27/2007 9:32:58 PM EST by nf9648]
How durable are the free float rail systems like the Larue and Daniel Defense compared to the KAC M5 handguards?  Im not gonna break them at the attaching point going prone if they bash on a rock or anything am I?
Link Posted: 3/2/2008 9:56:18 PM EST
Has anyone tried the Clark carbon fibers? Does anyone else make anything even close to that weight?
Link Posted: 3/14/2008 8:10:15 PM EST
Someone help me please.  I am down to a DD lite 10.0 and a SWS Midlength.  I just want to know if the SWS locks like the DD lite?  Both are similar in weight so thats not an issue- I would prefer one with no roll.  Thanks for the input.
Link Posted: 3/23/2008 6:13:23 PM EST
Just purchased a DD Omega rail for my RRA entry tactical and all I can say is WOW!  Very Nice piece of kit.  It is everything they say it is and more.  Mine came with 3 rail covers( Im sure they all do) and it was easy to install.
So far its rock solid and best of all I didnt have to remove the front site or chop the delta ring to install it. Worth every ducket I spent on it.
Link Posted: 4/8/2008 5:58:43 PM EST
will the omega rail torque and possibly pinch the gas tube?
Link Posted: 4/13/2008 2:18:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/17/2008 7:42:27 PM EST by fatalerror113]
never mind

I've decided on another gun & rail system.
Link Posted: 4/22/2008 4:06:54 AM EST
Moderator, if possible can you merge my thread on the Daniel Defense 7.0 Lite install into this thread?

http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=374588
Link Posted: 4/27/2008 9:21:46 AM EST
Any opinion on CAA X6L vs. the YHM lightweight FF rail?  I can get either for about the same price.  I'm kind of leaning towards the CAA X6L, but the YHM seems lighter.
Link Posted: 5/8/2008 4:07:46 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/8/2008 5:21:29 PM EST
I just purchased a VLTOR CASV and put it on my RRA carbine.  Its more than I expected. I love this thing and I'm thinking of buying another to take to Iraq with me to put on my issued M4.  You can see me firing it on Youtube under the screen name Stylensky.
Link Posted: 6/17/2008 3:43:52 PM EST
I was just wondering if anyone knows who makes Noveskes quad rail.  Do the make them themselves, or are they another brand that is just marked with Noveske.

Thanks,

John
Link Posted: 7/6/2008 5:00:58 PM EST
anyone know the weight of the noveske n4 rails?
Link Posted: 7/30/2008 3:43:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/30/2008 3:44:10 PM EST by Essayons]

Originally Posted By Lordevan83:
anyone know the weight of the noveske n4 rails?


You can compute/estimate the weight of the VIS rail by subtracting the weight of the MUR from the total weight of the VIS.  The weights are on the VLTOR web site.

What rails does Noveske use on the non-VIS N4 Light Carbine Low Profile Upper?
Link Posted: 8/2/2008 9:44:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/21/2008 5:15:48 PM EST by Guntoter]
Don't know what the weight is, but here is my Colt 6920 with the new DD Omega 7.0 rail with a Surefire M900 and OTAL laser mounted on it along with a EOTech 552 on a Larue riser.  The pistol is a Glock 21SF with GTL22.

Edit: Updated the rifle with Magpul CTR stock and LaRue mounts for light and laser.



Link Posted: 8/20/2008 3:41:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By LACamper:
Has anyone tried the Clark carbon fibers? Does anyone else make anything even close to that weight?


I would also like to know about this.
Link Posted: 8/21/2008 7:12:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By jrp3:
I was just wondering if anyone knows who makes Noveskes quad rail.  Do the make them themselves, or are they another brand that is just marked with Noveske.

Thanks,

John


SWS.
Link Posted: 8/23/2008 4:02:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/23/2008 4:03:55 PM EST by davis9588]
Midwest Industries Extended Carbine length




Link Posted: 10/17/2008 2:30:08 PM EST
Ok,
I found out my DD 9.0 is 11 oz., but how much does a set of plain midlength hanguards weigh?
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 2:39:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By Trumpet:
Ok,
I found out my DD 9.0 is 11 oz., but how much does a set of plain midlength hanguards weigh?



Good thread/info here:


Originally Posted By BravoCompanyUSA:

Originally Posted By CitySlicker:
Paul,
By any chance, do you think you could weigh a set of Mid-length handguards with delta ring assembly, barrel nut, and handguard cap?  I'm trying to compare it to a DD 10.0 Lite Rail, which you said was 11.2 oz.
If not, I understand completely.  Either way, thanks for your measurements; they've been really helpful!!!
Best Regards,
Justin


Justin,
RRA Mid Standard Hanguards
Delta Ring Assembly & Barrel Nut
HG cap

is 8.8oz

Thanks,
Paul
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