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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:00:04 PM EDT
[#1]
aimpoint!! its just better.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:23:35 PM EDT
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I have a ML2 on my 11.5 inch entry gun and have zero complaints.
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Posted: 9/20/2005 5:41:34 AM EDT
[#3]
EOTech owns CQB IMHO. The square window gives you a better FOV IMHO.
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Posted: 9/20/2005 6:48:38 AM EDT
[#4]
+1 (the Eotech is Faster) I like the Aimpoint for batter life. www.csgunworks.com |
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Posted: 9/20/2005 9:07:48 AM EDT
[#5]
On paper, I'd go with the EO.
In reality, I'm good with an M2 at all ranges.... but I havnt sent off my form 1 yet to try it with a short gun at super close ranges. Also, no funds for an EO to compare anyways |
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Posted: 9/20/2005 9:19:28 AM EDT
[#6]
FOV is a non issue as you shoot with both eyes open and the entire optic ghosts out and becomes transparent so there is 100% FOV for both optics.
Slight tint to the Aimpoint glass is a negative. Slight cost increase for the Aimpoint is a negative. EOtech has much lower battery life. EOtech has slightly harder to use buttons. |
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Posted: 9/20/2005 11:08:00 AM EDT
[#7]
Totally a matter of opinion. In the end get what you want and you'll be happy with it.
...........that being said, Eotech all the way
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Posted: 9/20/2005 11:08:49 AM EDT
[#8]
Damn puter
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Posted: 9/20/2005 5:17:47 PM EDT
[#9]
Thought of another thing.....provided this will be a weapon that is stored away and will be may be deployed quickly, the two different mechanisms to turn each optic on should be thoroughly considered. Through training I have conditioned myself to automatically roll the AimPoint switch to the approporiate setting when retrieving the weapon. This is something I was not able to do effeciently with the EOthing.
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Posted: 9/20/2005 5:56:49 PM EDT
[#10]
For CQB: Aimpoint!
Simple one red dot. Also lends itself very well for non-stop action if the optic should ever go down. Just place the large ghost-ring of the Aimpoint itself on taret and press trigger. |
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Posted: 9/20/2005 6:09:43 PM EDT
[#11]
EOTECH...
9 out of 10 Tier 1 SF units prefer it
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Posted: 9/20/2005 6:29:36 PM EDT
[#12]
It depends on if they're Navy or Army. 
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Posted: 9/20/2005 6:34:36 PM EDT
[#13]
About the FOV the Aimpoint obstruct the peripheral view quit a bit more than the EoTech even with both eyes open. If battery life is an issue go with an Aimpoint if it's speed go with the EoTech. Really whatever one you go with I think you will be happy with.
Thanks for your time, www.csgunworks.com [email protected] Here’s some testimonials about CS GunWorks for AR15 Board What do YOU have to say about CS GunWorks |
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Posted: 9/20/2005 7:12:35 PM EDT
[#14]
EOTech.
I'm thinking of getting an ML3 for the battery life, though (unfortunately, that's the only reason as I like the EOTech better) WIZZZO |
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Posted: 9/20/2005 8:07:21 PM EDT
[#15]
The guys I know out of 1st Group use Eotechs. Like they say, the Aimpoint is yesterdays technology. |
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Posted: 9/20/2005 8:21:26 PM EDT
[#16]
EOTech 1100 hours. Seems like a lot of battery life to me. Just carry a few AAAs for spares. I know the ML3s have some crazy battery life. I have a ML2 and love it but I want to try a EOTech. Is there anything else I am missing? Thanks
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Posted: 9/21/2005 4:40:20 AM EDT
[#17]
Who ever heard of a Navy SF unit??  Do try to keep up. 
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Posted: 9/21/2005 6:58:20 AM EDT
[#18]
I also didn't know that there were 10 Tier1 Units. I believe JSOC has two Tier1 SMU's. But what do I know. 
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Posted: 9/21/2005 7:15:16 AM EDT
[#19]
Uhmm I was thinking NATO Tier 1
Admittedly I can only count 7 - and 6 use the EOTECH but I was makign a joke via the toothpaste commercials - lighten up
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Posted: 9/21/2005 9:58:17 AM EDT
[#20]
Kev, that's the problem. You have guys like me who want people to speak/post in proper nomenclature.
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Posted: 9/21/2005 10:14:47 AM EDT
[#21]
Roger that! Also concerning the Aimpoint, Does'nt the nave still use the RIS too
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Posted: 9/21/2005 11:13:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2005 11:21:30 AM EDT
[#23]
In my opinion the Aimpoint best suits my mission.
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Posted: 9/21/2005 12:33:01 PM EDT
[#24]
We use Aimpoints: www.talonarms.com
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Posted: 9/21/2005 12:34:11 PM EDT
[#25]
We use Aimpoints: www.talonarms.com
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Posted: 9/21/2005 1:42:54 PM EDT
[#26]
+1 on the 1st Group guys...and 5th Group...and 7th Group...and some guys who if they died their unit would simply be called "USASOC" or nothing would be mentioned at all. They said the exact same thing "Aimpoint is yesterday's tech." That being said, Aimpoint is a top quality optic, just not my pref. YMMV Airborne |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 1:46:54 PM EDT
[#27]
It's not an SBR... yet!
 In addition to the fact that the FOV is better, it's more economical for an equal or better (your call) quality optik. I just bought a 512(F) from one of the dealers here on the board for $295 shipped
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Posted: 9/21/2005 1:49:14 PM EDT
[#28]
FWIW,the Short Dot is making strong inroads in the SF community. I first heard about them a year ago, but was turned off by the price. Now that all the cool kids are using them I think I'll have to get one
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Posted: 9/21/2005 1:53:34 PM EDT
[#29]
Once you factor in the cost of the optic, LaRue mount/spacer and 50,000 hours of batteries,the Aimpoint is not much more expensive.
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Posted: 9/21/2005 2:00:00 PM EDT
[#30]
But the Larue mount/spacer is purely optional based solely on the preference of the user with the EOTech.
Not so with the Aimpointer. WIZZO |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 2:53:23 PM EDT
[#31]
Aweful hard to shoot with an upright head and a direct mounted EOTEch. For me, at least. |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 2:55:59 PM EDT
[#32]
I see your point, for sure, but I have it mounted on the upper and am happpy with it.
How much does the Larue mount raise it, anyway? It doesn't look like it's that much. WIZZO |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 3:06:03 PM EDT
[#33]
N/M I as wrong. |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 3:22:49 PM EDT
[#34]
LaRue mount is also QD.
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Posted: 9/21/2005 3:29:09 PM EDT
[#35]
.0275 C4 |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 4:06:42 PM EDT
[#36]
Damn that was quick |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 4:24:41 PM EDT
[#37]
+1 Thanks for the reply, Grant. WIZZO |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 7:56:51 PM EDT
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Since the claim has been made that SF units prefer the EoTHING, can someone give some insight as to how they are usually deployed. Not being familiar with the job, I wonder if they leave them on at all times when "on watch" ( or whatever, ready for the shit) or do they have to manually turn them on before engaging. The Points battery life allows one to keep it on for the duration of the war (give or take
) making such a thing not necessary. This seems it would be a big deal to me.... Then there is the issue of quick reticle brightness settings....I think he should get both..... |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 8:05:02 PM EDT
[#39]
It's the only way. WIZZO |
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Posted: 9/23/2005 9:21:13 PM EDT
[#40]
Well, my next optik was gonna be an Aimpointer anyways! Heh... I like that... EOThing and Aimpointer 
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Posted: 9/24/2005 8:47:06 AM EDT
[#41]
Actually it's .0275/.1.
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