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Posted: 9/19/2005 9:31:35 PM EDT
Looking for opinions on a CQ rifle optic. Eotech or aimpoint and why?

Can't wait for my tax stamp!!!!!
Link Posted: 9/19/2005 11:00:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/19/2005 11:01:35 PM EDT by Remman]
aimpoint!! its just better.


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Link Posted: 9/19/2005 11:23:35 PM EDT
I have a ML2 on my 11.5 inch entry gun and have zero complaints.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 5:41:34 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:48:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 9:07:48 AM EDT
On paper, I'd go with the EO.

In reality, I'm good with an M2 at all ranges.... but I havnt sent off my form 1 yet to try it with a short gun at super close ranges. Also, no funds for an EO to compare anyways
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 9:19:28 AM EDT
FOV is a non issue as you shoot with both eyes open and the entire optic ghosts out and becomes transparent so there is 100% FOV for both optics.

Slight tint to the Aimpoint glass is a negative. Slight cost increase for the Aimpoint is a negative.

EOtech has much lower battery life. EOtech has slightly harder to use buttons.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 11:08:00 AM EDT
Totally a matter of opinion. In the end get what you want and you'll be happy with it.

...........that being said, Eotech all the way
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 11:08:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/20/2005 11:09:34 AM EDT by Horik]
Damn puter
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 5:17:47 PM EDT
Thought of another thing.....provided this will be a weapon that is stored away and will be may be deployed quickly, the two different mechanisms to turn each optic on should be thoroughly considered. Through training I have conditioned myself to automatically roll the AimPoint switch to the approporiate setting when retrieving the weapon. This is something I was not able to do effeciently with the EOthing.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 5:56:49 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:09:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:29:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KevinB:
EOTECH...

9 out of 10 Tier 1 SF units prefer it



It depends on if they're Navy or Army.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:34:36 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 7:12:35 PM EDT
EOTech.

I'm thinking of getting an ML3 for the battery life, though (unfortunately, that's the only reason as I like the EOTech better)

WIZZZO
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 8:07:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KevinB:
EOTECH...

9 out of 10 Tier 1 SF units prefer it



The guys I know out of 1st Group use Eotechs. Like they say, the Aimpoint is yesterdays technology.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 8:21:26 PM EDT
EOTech 1100 hours. Seems like a lot of battery life to me. Just carry a few AAAs for spares. I know the ML3s have some crazy battery life. I have a ML2 and love it but I want to try a EOTech. Is there anything else I am missing? Thanks
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 4:40:20 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 6:58:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mcgrubbs:

Originally Posted By S-1:

Originally Posted By KevinB:
EOTECH...

9 out of 10 Tier 1 SF units prefer it



It depends on if they're Navy or Army.



Who ever heard of a Navy SF unit??

Do try to keep up.



I also didn't know that there were 10 Tier1 Units.

I believe JSOC has two Tier1 SMU's. But what do I know.
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 7:15:16 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 9:58:17 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 10:14:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By KevinB:
EOTECH...

9 out of 10 Tier 1 SF units prefer it



Roger that!

Also concerning the Aimpoint, Does'nt the nave still use the RIS too
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 11:13:26 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 11:21:30 AM EDT
In my opinion the Aimpoint best suits my mission.
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 12:33:01 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 12:34:11 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 1:42:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Stickman:

Originally Posted By KevinB:
EOTECH...

9 out of 10 Tier 1 SF units prefer it



The guys I know out of 1st Group use Eotechs. Like they say, the Aimpoint is yesterdays technology.



+1 on the 1st Group guys...and 5th Group...and 7th Group...and some guys who if they died their unit would simply be called "USASOC" or nothing would be mentioned at all. They said the exact same thing "Aimpoint is yesterday's tech."

That being said, Aimpoint is a top quality optic, just not my pref.

YMMV

Airborne
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 1:46:54 PM EDT
It's not an SBR... yet!



In addition to the fact that the FOV is better, it's more economical for an equal or better (your call) quality optik.

I just bought a 512(F) from one of the dealers here on the board for $295 shipped
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 1:49:14 PM EDT
FWIW,the Short Dot is making strong inroads in the SF community. I first heard about them a year ago, but was turned off by the price. Now that all the cool kids are using them I think I'll have to get one
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 1:53:34 PM EDT
Once you factor in the cost of the optic, LaRue mount/spacer and 50,000 hours of batteries,the Aimpoint is not much more expensive.
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 2:00:00 PM EDT
But the Larue mount/spacer is purely optional based solely on the preference of the user with the EOTech.

Not so with the Aimpointer.

WIZZO
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 2:53:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WIZZO_ARAKM14:
But the Larue mount/spacer is purely optional based solely on the preference of the user with the EOTech.

Not so with the Aimpointer.

WIZZO



Aweful hard to shoot with an upright head and a direct mounted EOTEch. For me, at least.
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 2:55:59 PM EDT
I see your point, for sure, but I have it mounted on the upper and am happpy with it.

How much does the Larue mount raise it, anyway? It doesn't look like it's that much.

WIZZO
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 3:06:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/21/2005 4:11:18 PM EDT by Combat_Jack]

Originally Posted By WIZZO_ARAKM14:
I see your point, for sure, but I have it mounted on the upper and am happpy with it.

How much does the Larue mount raise it, anyway? It doesn't look like it's that much.

WIZZO



N/M I as wrong.
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 3:22:49 PM EDT
LaRue mount is also QD.
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 3:29:09 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 4:06:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By C4iGrant:

Originally Posted By WIZZO_ARAKM14:
I see your point, for sure, but I have it mounted on the upper and am happpy with it.

How much does the Larue mount raise it, anyway? It doesn't look like it's that much.

WIZZO



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Damn that was quick
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 4:24:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Remman:

Originally Posted By C4iGrant:

Originally Posted By WIZZO_ARAKM14:
I see your point, for sure, but I have it mounted on the upper and am happpy with it.

How much does the Larue mount raise it, anyway? It doesn't look like it's that much.

WIZZO



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Damn that was quick



+1

Thanks for the reply, Grant.

WIZZO
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 7:56:51 PM EDT
Since the claim has been made that SF units prefer the EoTHING, can someone give some insight as to how they are usually deployed. Not being familiar with the job, I wonder if they leave them on at all times when "on watch" ( or whatever, ready for the shit) or do they have to manually turn them on before engaging. The Points battery life allows one to keep it on for the duration of the war (give or take) making such a thing not necessary. This seems it would be a big deal to me.... Then there is the issue of quick reticle brightness settings....



I think he should get both.....
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 8:05:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AZ-K9:



I think he should get both.....



It's the only way.





WIZZO
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 9:21:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WIZZO_ARAKM14:

Originally Posted By AZ-K9:



I think he should get both.....



It's the only way.





WIZZO



Well, my next optik was gonna be an Aimpointer anyways!
Heh... I like that... EOThing and Aimpointer
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 8:47:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By C4iGrant:

Originally Posted By WIZZO_ARAKM14:
I see your point, for sure, but I have it mounted on the upper and am happpy with it.

How much does the Larue mount raise it, anyway? It doesn't look like it's that much.

WIZZO



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Actually it's .0275/.1.
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