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Posted: 6/27/2005 8:48:30 AM EDT
Elcan

Any info on these?
Link Posted: 6/27/2005 8:55:14 AM EDT
is this there new electronic scope?



tagged
Link Posted: 6/27/2005 9:00:30 AM EDT
Our Specter does not look like that one. I've never seen or heard of the "DR" model, but I think that the doctor may have to prescribe one in the future.
Link Posted: 6/27/2005 10:02:46 AM EDT
One of the monthly gun magazines hinted that Elcan had an entirely new optic coming out soon. This was shown in a small cropped photograph, but no significant details were mentioned.
Link Posted: 6/27/2005 10:05:28 AM EDT
New from ELCAN

- Switches instantly from close combat (1x) to telescopic (4x)
- Eye relief (cheekweld) and bore sighting remain constant
- Large, low light exit pupil remains constant
- High efficiency coatings for extended low light performance
- Integrated lever-lock mount for optimum weigh reduction
- Rugged, Reliable Performance
- Shock Protected Precision Optics
- Integrated back-up iron sights are bore sighted to scope

Thats the ticket
Link Posted: 6/27/2005 10:07:31 AM EDT
I like it. How Much???
Link Posted: 6/27/2005 1:14:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By u-baddog:
New from ELCAN

- Switches instantly from close combat (1x) to telescopic (4x)
- Eye relief (cheekweld) and bore sighting remain constant
- Large, low light exit pupil remains constant
- High efficiency coatings for extended low light performance
- Integrated lever-lock mount for optimum weigh reduction
- Rugged, Reliable Performance
- Shock Protected Precision Optics
- Integrated back-up iron sights are bore sighted to scope

Thats the ticket



That's pretty damn important also.
Link Posted: 6/27/2005 1:20:30 PM EDT
very cool. If it's priced right..
Link Posted: 6/27/2005 1:25:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lapp_Dance:
I like it. How Much???



You know the Old saying..."If you have to ask..."


jim
Link Posted: 6/27/2005 1:39:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By u-baddog:
New from ELCAN

- Switches instantly from close combat (1x) to telescopic (4x)
- Eye relief (cheekweld) and bore sighting remain constant
- Large, low light exit pupil remains constant
- High efficiency coatings for extended low light performance
- Integrated lever-lock mount for optimum weigh reduction
- Rugged, Reliable Performance
- Shock Protected Precision Optics
- Integrated back-up iron sights are bore sighted to scope

Thats the ticket



... except for the fact that the windage & elevation adjustments are still external?!?!?!

Why go through the hassle of designing a new scope only to carry over the worst feature of your old design?
Link Posted: 6/28/2005 10:25:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NexQuietus:

Originally Posted By Lapp_Dance:
I like it. How Much???



You know the Old saying..."If you have to ask..."


jim



You know the old saying, "If you have nothing to contribute, STFU."

I asked because there is no other information listed other than the model's specs.
Link Posted: 6/28/2005 11:00:10 AM EDT
I agree with NYPatriot... if you look closely at the revolving image on that web page, +1 now that it's got ARMS throw levers now instead of thumb nuts and 1X to 4X "instantly" (what does that mean? Turn a maginification ring??), but it's still got the external hinge mount/adjuster and some odd-looking spring directly under the scope body in between the mount and the scope. I can't imagine a mount with a hinge that will not move under pressure, or loosen over time/abuse. Even with all of Elcan's effort to redsign the mounts several times, they're trying to make a purse out of a sow's ear.

Pass.
Link Posted: 6/28/2005 11:21:39 AM EDT
Still using the age old external adjustments just doesnt make sense. The new line of Specter M145 optics eliminates this and uses the better internal style adjustments.
Link Posted: 6/28/2005 11:48:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/28/2005 12:07:06 PM EDT by natez]
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Link Posted: 6/28/2005 12:40:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lockedandloaded:
Still using the age old external adjustments just doesnt make sense. The new line of Specter M145 optics eliminates this and uses the better internal style adjustments.



What do you mean by internal adj?
Link Posted: 6/28/2005 1:33:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/28/2005 3:03:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/28/2005 3:05:01 PM EDT by DevL]

Originally Posted By Face_N_The_Crowd:

Originally Posted By lockedandloaded:
Still using the age old external adjustments just doesnt make sense. The new line of Specter M145 optics eliminates this and uses the better internal style adjustments.



What do you mean by internal adj?



Not external like the Elcan where the scope is on a mount that goes up/down left/right to zero the scope. It has adjustment knobs like a scope is supposed to.
Link Posted: 6/28/2005 3:46:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lapp_Dance:

Originally Posted By NexQuietus:

Originally Posted By Lapp_Dance:
I like it. How Much???



You know the Old saying..."If you have to ask..."


jim



You know the old saying, "If you have nothing to contribute, STFU."

I asked because there is no other information listed other than the model's specs.




Link Posted: 6/28/2005 4:08:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/28/2005 4:09:13 PM EDT by C4iGrant]
Link Posted: 6/28/2005 6:22:51 PM EDT
When is this baby going to be available? It looks like the perfect scope for my Recon project.
Link Posted: 6/28/2005 7:05:33 PM EDT
Looks very interesting
Link Posted: 6/28/2005 8:56:53 PM EDT
Now all we need is a LaRue mount for it.
Link Posted: 6/28/2005 10:38:38 PM EDT
The Specter DR is currently in preproduction with T&E units being sent to .mil types for evaluation. The sight weighs in at 590 grammes or 22oz.s, which is quite chunky compared to the ACOG.
It runs on a shortened AA battery and should enter production by the new year. Unlikely to see any commercially available until Q2 2005.

The price.....depends on your volume but I would imagine retail will be 1800-2000+ a throw.

Simon
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 9:09:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By eklikwhoa:
is this there new electronic scope?



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No, I just got a quick update on that scope. SD cards, downloadable reticles, usb downloadable BDCs...

Link Posted: 8/1/2005 10:47:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/1/2005 10:53:29 PM EDT by amuroray]
page 14:

http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2005smallarms/thursday/gatewood.pdf



Link Posted: 8/2/2005 3:01:38 AM EDT
That would be the sight to have.


It looks like the lever under the sight changes power, and the knob ajusts brightness, now I wonder what the electroics are like?

Battery life?


I may have to upgrade when it becomes availible.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 3:20:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NexQuietus:

Originally Posted By Lapp_Dance:
I like it. How Much???



You know the Old saying..."If you have to ask..."


jim



Sometimes you have to ask, in order to fill out the check...................
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