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Posted: 6/3/2011 5:27:57 PM EDT
Well?










IIRC the last time I cleaned this carbine may have been in the summer of 2007-2008.  This carbine has had about 1300-1800 rounds through it in that time.  It even went through a 800rd+ tactical carbine class in November of 2009.  This rifle has run flawlessly in that time.  I have only put a little CLP on the 4 rails of the BCG and two drops through each gas hole.  I have done that each time the carbine went to the range.  I want to mention that this is my go to SHTF and HD weapon.  





The BGC feesl sticky to the touch.  
I purchased a bottle of Slip 2000 Carbon Killer.  I wonder how well it is going to work on my BGC.  I plan on soaking it in the solution for about 25 minuets 10 minuets longer then the recommended time.  To clean this I am only going to use a red shop rag and a little bit of 0000 steel wool.
I will post my results when I am done.  All questions and criticisms are welcome!
 
Link Posted: 6/3/2011 5:31:38 PM EDT
[#1]
At least you run the BCG wet.  Most guys run their guns dry & then complain about FTFs, FTE(xtract)s, & FTE(ject)s.
Link Posted: 6/3/2011 5:31:47 PM EDT
[#2]
AR's dont need to be cleaned everytime they are fired. But there is nothing wrong with wiping off the BCG from time to time to prevent the build up you experianced.
Link Posted: 6/3/2011 5:33:28 PM EDT
[#3]



Quoted:


AR's dont need to be cleaned everytime they are fired. But there is nothing wrong with wiping off the BCG from time to time to prevent the build up you experianced.


It started out as laziness.  Oh I will clean it later.  Then I realized that it still worked.  Then it became an experiment to see how long it would keep going.



 
Link Posted: 6/4/2011 5:01:19 AM EDT
[#4]
Total rounds fired?

It's a good example of how a rifle doesn't need the white glove treatment.  Like the Filthy 14 and Pat, wet is the key.
Link Posted: 6/4/2011 3:08:06 PM EDT
[#5]





Quoted:



Total rounds fired?





It's a good example of how a rifle doesn't need the white glove treatment.  Like the Filthy 14 and Pat, wet is the key.



I would say 1300-1800 +/-



ETA The BCG came out well and was very easy to wipe the crap off.  I am liking the slip 2000 carbon kiler





 
Link Posted: 6/4/2011 3:23:56 PM EDT
[#6]
yes
Link Posted: 6/7/2011 11:50:56 AM EDT
[#7]
Have you cleaned it yet??  I'm dying to see a *after* set of pics.

Also, want to hear your experience with different products on that mess.  It sure makes me feel better about my cleaning habits!  


Link Posted: 6/7/2011 5:19:27 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:





Have you cleaned it yet??  I'm dying to see a *after* set of pics.
Also, want to hear your experience with different products on that mess.  It sure makes me feel better about my cleaning habits!  









After taking the parts out of the solution I only wiped them down with a red shop rag.  I am pretty happy with how well they came out.  I feel the Carbon Killer worked well.  With a time and effort along with a nylon brush I could have gotten the gunk out of the small places.  I was a little disappointed that it did not do much to the carbon on the back of the bolt.  I will have to take a scraper and carefully remove the carbon like I have always done.





I feel the biggest benefit is that this cleaner is non toxic.  I am staring to move away from the petroleum based chemicals.






















 

 
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 7:20:17 AM EDT
[#9]
That's awesome.  Thanks for the new pics!  
I don't worry about the tail of my bolt.  That doesn't hinder the performance at all.  It's just annoying to look at.
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 6:34:33 PM EDT
[#10]
carbon killer would never touch the back of my bolts either. Used up the one bottle I had, don't think I'll go back to it.
Awesome test, I run my stuff wet also. But I start to experience FTE after about 500 rds. Maybe it aint wet enough, hhhmmm.
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 8:21:29 PM EDT
[#11]
finally someone who doesnt obsessively clean their guns either.  for that you get a smiley face sticker.
Link Posted: 6/9/2011 3:05:22 AM EDT
[#12]
My NFA mentor-buddy has a saying:  "only assholes clean guns".  So when one of his gems finally quits he'll do anything to get someone else to clean it.  Last Eden shoot his 16 quit, so I (designated asshole) cleaned the BCG (which looked alot worse than the OP's).  I lubed it up the TM way, and his thanks:  "hey, you didn't lube it".  So while I'm holding it he literally pours 10-30 all over it (and me).  

I always read these "lookee how dirty my gun is - and it still runs" threads - must have a fascination with dirt.  But the analytical part of me wants to know if running a 16 wet, but dirty, is any worse - in terms of reliability/parts breakage - than running it wet with frequent cleanings.  Does anyone know?

Sam
Link Posted: 6/9/2011 10:06:55 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
My NFA mentor-buddy has a saying:  "only assholes clean guns".  So when one of his gems finally quits he'll do anything to get someone else to clean it.  Last Eden shoot his 16 quit, so I (designated asshole) cleaned the BCG (which looked alot worse than the OP's).  I lubed it up the TM way, and his thanks:  "hey, you didn't lube it".  So while I'm holding it he literally pours 10-30 all over it (and me).  

I always read these "lookee how dirty my gun is - and it still runs" threads - must have a fascination with dirt.  But the analytical part of me wants to know if running a 16 wet, but dirty, is any worse - in terms of reliability/parts breakage - than running it wet with frequent cleanings.  Does anyone know?

Sam


i guess i would be an asshole in his opinion. id be damned if i am going to even handle a filthy firearm. guns are dangerous machines that like most machines, require maintenance. i would hate to see someone get hurt or worse because some asshat thinks it isnt cool to clean & maintain their weapons.  then again, i am blown away by the fuckatardedness of many people (gun owners included)

Link Posted: 6/9/2011 3:49:24 PM EDT
[#14]
New to the forum but thought this is as good of place to start as any other thread.

Definately good to see that it could still perform even with all that with just keeping it lubricated, but I have to admit it would drive me crazy to not have cleaned it if I had the time.

Carbon Killer works really well I have found also, but I also noticed that on the tough deposit area like the back of the bolt or other crevices it still takes a little more attention... otherwise most of the buildup runs right off or just take a quick wipe down! Great stuff, I really like the Slip2000 products.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 9:57:33 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
I run my stuff wet also. But I start to experience FTE after about 500 rds.


So clean every 450rnds and call it good.

My OCD kicks in long before that point and I end up cleaning them everytime i tell myself I'm going to shoot it until it quits.
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