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Posted: 9/22/2004 5:47:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 8:39:30 PM EST by SinistralRifleman]
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:02:36 PM EST
I always hated it in the army where the automatic reaction to a malfunction was, "Should have cleaned your weapon better". Sure, a clean weapon is important, but it should still be able to fire while filthy.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:09:26 PM EST
What's fleet strike/ACS?
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:10:31 PM EST
I ahve put 3000 rounds, 60% Wolf, 40% Q3131A, through my AR in a week with no malfunctions. I did nothing more than a daily squirt of CLP and pulled a boresnake through the bore after about 2K.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:51:50 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 7:45:11 PM EST

Originally Posted By SinistralRifleman:

Originally Posted By Not_A_Llama:
What's fleet strike/ACS?



It's from a series of science fiction novels, The Legacy of the Aldenata, by John Ringo. I had a few custom serial numbers done up with "AIW" in them, AIWs (Advanced Individual Weapons) are the rifles used in the novels. I highly reccomend Mr. Ringo's Novels, you can find them at www.johnringo.com


I thought is seemed familar. I've enjoyed that series of books, although the target audience seems to be several years younger than me. The fact that they take place in places I go to fairly often makes it that much more interesting.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 8:34:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 8:37:00 PM EST by new-arguy]
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 8:42:04 PM EST
I am guilty of sheer negligence, and yet my Carbon 15 keeps shooting despite weeks between cleanings. Thank God carbon fiber can't rust.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 8:49:22 PM EST
I am very impressed on how clean the inside is. I am not talking about the carbon, but rather the desert dust. If that dust flap is closed, it is very effective!
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 8:54:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By MrKasab:
I always hated it in the army where the automatic reaction to a malfunction was, "Should have cleaned your weapon better". Sure, a clean weapon is important, but it should still be able to fire while filthy.



The Army was right...

If an AR gets filthy enough to jam because it's filthy, that's an operator headspace issue...

Which is why they make such a big deal of it...

So long as you don't abuse it, the AR will run forever...

But if you go thru 13,000 rounds and don't field-clean it, that MIGHT ccause it to jam...
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 4:17:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/23/2004 4:19:49 PM EST by Ando]
You call that dirty?
That's what my rifle looks like AFTER I clean it. he
Does that thing even feed without M4 feed ramps?
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 4:29:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/23/2004 4:30:52 PM EST by markm]
When my rifle gets that dirty, I hose it off with water before I even start cleaning it.

So how was the match? Was 5.56 adequate for knocking all of the steel down?
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 4:30:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/23/2004 4:31:19 PM EST by mcgrubbs]
Anyone remeber Brad's post on a dirty carbine over on LF Forum??

Now, that was DIRTY!!! And running strong. I have never seen a bolt that filthy.


BTW, my main carbine hasn't been cleaned since the first of the year. A little lube here and there is all you need.
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 4:32:21 PM EST
I can't believe no one's said it yet ...

I like my rifle like my woman ...
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 4:33:30 PM EST
I did a stress test. 3K-ish and the ejector reetaining pin broke. FTE. Bang, Jam, clear. Bang, Jam, clear.

Stripped it down, found broken pin, replaced. Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang....
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 4:34:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By M4Kid:
I can't believe no one's said it yet ...

I like my rifle like my woman ...



The real version of that saying is:

"Carbines, like women, run better wet." - Paul Paskey
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 7:14:54 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/23/2004 8:16:48 PM EST
my gun hasn't jammed yet... nor have i ever had a failure while using any of the m16a2's while in the arms or m16a4's...

my personal weapon hasn't ever... i've seen them fail.. but most if not all because of bad mags...
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 2:54:14 AM EST
Guys--The guns basically get dirty because of carbon gunk sticking to patroleum based lubes--has anyone thought of using anyhing else, say like blackpowder shooters use vegitable "wonder lube"?
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