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Happy Canada Day to fellow Diemaco Colt Canada collectors!

Thought I would add a picture or two

C8 CQB......

Damn, that's well done.

Yesssss

These have been out for a while, but I decided to finally jump on the bandwagon.  Unfortunately, my favourite shop for these sort of things, SFRC, was long sold out.  Nordic Marksman has these, but they charge a lot more for them, and the best deal around still was with S&J Hardware.



Looked great at a quick glance, but that receiver looked pretty new compared to the rest of the upper assembly.



There's clearly wear on the charging handle, barrel, hand guard, FSB and flash hider, so how the hell did the receiver stay so clean?



The thing looked practically new.  And what's the deal with the forward assist retaining pin?  Why's it sticking out like that?





Top of the carry handle looked like it was never touched.



The front end looks like it's seen some contact.







I pull out the BCG to look for the "D" mark as promised, however none was to be seen.  Instead, I see an "E" mark.  WTF.



I have no idea how to tell if the charging handle was made by Diemaco, but it has quite a bit of wear compared to the inside of the receiver.  Now, I'm not complaining about the wear because I knew ahead of time when I purchased this that it was a surplus upper and probably beat to hell.  I just found it odd the receiver looked so clean.



That does not look like a Diemaco "D" marked BCG.





I pull out my authentic Diemaco BCG for comparison and I can tell already, these are not the same.  The staking is clearly visible from the side on the Diemaco BCG.



More visible from the top.



The one that came with the upper says MPC, but the Diemaco one reads MPD 4329.



There was a T scratched into the one that came with the upper.



I'm 99% sure this is a Diemaco FSB, but maybe any experts can chime in here.





The barrel has the "D" mark at least.









The inside of the receiver doesn't appear to have ever been used.



So, I'm guessing this upper was cerakoted at one point.  I'm just curious if they came like this from the agency that surplussed them or if S&J Hardware took them apart and did this.



There's the pin again for the forward assist.  Anyway, I've contacted S&J Hardware and find out what's going on with my order.  I'm not super concerned about the cerakote job, but I am not at all happy about the BCG they subbed in.

Looks like they refurbished it to me.  That upper looks new but does have the D, so correct.  I would try to exchange the BCG and call it good.  Wear in that upper at the range!

ETA: I don't know if the CH is supposed to be marked. @Leg or Rebelrouser might know more about it.

Yeah, I wasn't concerned about the refurb receiver, just curious more than anything.  You're absolutely right about wearing in the upper to match the rest of it :)

I do want the "D" marked BCG though so let's hope S&J comes through.

Slapped a spare CC lower onto it to see how it would look.

I actually want to get a Colt USA lower for it and do a Blackhawk Down clone.

Some more Diemaco goodness .... Very happy with this one!

Fixed it for you

Lol, you a Weapons Tech, or best friends with one?

J/K,  I had no idea there were surplus C7 uppers.  That's an awesome C7 clone.  Before my time though.

When I joined, our unit still had the all black, fixed stock C7A1 but soon after went to the A2s.

Where the hell did you get a C7 upper?

Mister Donut. There are no markings on the cocking handle so hard to tell if the real deal. They do tend to look rougher than commercial ones and Diemaco stuff in general appears slightly grey when compared to black anodized parts.  I’ve never seen the E on the BCG, strange. Bolt is Colt.

Edit:  I do believe that most of these C8s were given to police agencies by the CF and they’re now being surplused as they “upgrade”. I wonder if the BCG is a police armourer replacement?  Still no idea of the manufacturer though.

I looked at my cocking handle and it looks very similar to yours with the grind lines and trapezoid shape. I don’t have a lot of experience with commercial or Colt stuff but my Armalite cocking handle has perfectly flat surfaces with 90 degree back. Almost like it wasn’t a forging.  Every cocking handle I’ve used in the CF is similar to what you have so no reason to think that it’s not the real deal.

Your FSB has the same markings as mine. I’ve never paid too much attention to the markings on the ones at work. Just look where the Front post sits. US rifles will have the arrow that points left and “UP” below it. Canadian rifles only have the arrow. Wouldn’t want to set off the Francos.

Are you sure the upper has been ceracoated and isn’t just new?  Either scenario seems a little odd. If you were going to refinish why not do the whole upper?

MPD marked bolt and D marked BCG. Have a couple of them.

But have also seen MPC marked bolts on Diemaco carriers. Anyone know the significance of the etched letter “T” ?

What else would you like to see?

Yeah, not a big deal about the cocking handle, for me, most of them are about as generic as A2 grips.  I’ve seen some badly made ones (NEA/BCL and Norinco), but most seem decent and about the same quality.

There wasn’t a lot of info on the source of these Surplus C8 uppers, just that they were surplus.

Lol, I remember the deal with the arrows and “up” being not bilingual.  I don’t speak French, but it would have been nice to see the commemorative Colt Canada/Diemaco models with bilingual roll marks, just like our C7s and C8s.

Yeah, I really don’t know if the upper is new or cerakoted.  It looks like there’s a bit of over-run from paint cerakote on the inside of the receiver, but I’m not familiar with cerakote.  I thought receivers were anodized, but were the older ones painted/cerakoted?  Either way, it looks shiny and new, completely untouched inside by a cocking handle, BCG and the gas tube doesn’t have any carbon on it.  The barrel, flash hider, delta ring, charging handle, and BCG show some nice wear though, so I have no idea.  I contacted Simon from S&J Hardware about it, but I have yet to hear back.







In the meantime, I did the unthinkable and turned my C8 upper into a Blackhawk Down 723 clone, lol!





*Ducks from the flying bricks thrown by CF members who actually used these C8s*

Oh no. If you replace the tail cap with just a pressure pad it will still be CF correct as that’s the same setup we used on Roto 0 OP ATHENA in ‘03. Of course we wouldn’t have gotten away with the paint job, except for maybe Recce Pl.

Hi, I'm new to Forum/The website. Found this thread and thought I'd post my beginnings of a collection and clone project.

Where are you guys (Americans) getting these Diemaco parts?

I think Nordic Marksman and SFRC will ship certain items like furniture kits to the US.

These guys appear to operate in the US and lists the surplus Diemaco C8 uppers on their site:

https://www.clickarmory.com/gun-parts/ar-parts/lower-upper-kits/diemaco-c8-upper-receiver-14-5-surplus/

Nice set of furniture there btw, they're getting pricy, even up here.

I got my Green Furniture and Ambi Charging Handle from a shop in Calgary. I saw it on there website and called them. Then proceeded to order it from them, it was $$$$$. My Diemaco Tri-ad I got on ebay from a guy in Canada and I got the one BUIS on ebay from a guy in the Netherlands. Both of those I got for quite cheap.

Typically, licensed retailers are not allowed to ship Colt, Diemaco, and Colt Canada parts. It is a Colt HQ policy over it's American and Canadian divisions to not have market cannibalization. Elucidate put it best and I probably couldn't say it better myself. He says that, "this is so that they wouldn't damage each others ability to answer military contracts and so that the issues with one country wouldn't affect the other (Colt USA bankruptcy vs Colt Canada being healthy for example)."

Not to mention that some parts, mostly receivers, bolts, and barrels are un-importable. It is a combination of a Colt/Colt Canada market deal and ATF import regulations that is enforced by ITAR.

Other than the receivers, bolts, and barrels, you can import Diemaco parts but a retailer can't directly ship to you. I got lucky on some occasions and some retailers still sent Diemaco parts to me over the border, despite them signing the market agreement.

But if you got some buddies on the inside however...

Don't get me wrong, I kinda got really giddy at the idea of a surplus C8 upper, but I am skeptical. There is no way the ATF would allow that upper in the country through official channels. Colt themselves barely got to get some Diemaco barrels in the US. Most of them are on the Colt LMGs. Am I wrong? (I hope so.)

I think I'll contact them and see...

That's an impressive collection, wow.

Did any LSW barrels end up on the greymarket?

Rebel Rouser has an LSW upper from the USMC IAR trials.  I have seen a couple of the shaved A2 uppers surface from older LSWs, normally minus the barrel.

Relatively certain that LWRC was using Diemaco hammer forged barrels at one point but it could have been for military/LE customers.

I'm on the hunt for a set of green furniture for my BCM C8 SFW rifle. Grip, stock, and carbine length handguard. If anyone is looking to sell or knows where to go.

Tonys customs has all three.

While Colt's internal policy might be different, Everything except the serial numbered lower and barrel are importable to the US. Depending on the value / items/ play it safe, you just need a form 6 (import permit). The ATF import branch will approve an import permit for individuals, if not for resale.

Very reasonable prices too. Thanks

Also looking for a Tri Rail Mount from BCM

Out of production? I've been looking for quite a while.

There are airsoft versions that seem fairly sturdy... I wouldn't be mounting anything on it anyway

Not sure. I'm on the notify when back in stock list, and have a WTB in the EE. I only found out about it the other day when I decided to make a clone out of the BCM C8 SFW upper I have. Don't really want to resort to an Airsoft part yet.

It's a real bummer it's so hard to get Canadian gun parts here in the states. Half tempted to make a trip across the border next time I'm in NY.

J/K Mr. ATF man.

Lol, we have the same problem....ITARD.....

I had a Magpul trigger guard which wasn't clone correct so I finally replaced it with the factory Colt Canada one.....any excuse to pollute this and other threads with photo spam :)

Now you just need the right sling plate. I think GG&G makes a similar facsimile.

Here is my meager contribution. I found a stripped diemaco upper, and assembled this post 9-11 upper. The rail is dated 17-October-11 which happens to fall on my birthday. Another side note, the upper includes my wife's and my initails. The D in diemaco and a for anchor are our first initials, and h for Harvey for our last initial. D&A H.I thought that was cool. any how, not a Canadian build, but it is a very plausible m4cqbr clone.

Lol, I just picked it up from DS Tactical a few days ago :)

*Dupe*

For those interested the Taiwanese T91 front sight post is a very close match for the Diemaco front sight posts and is available cheap from time to time at t91tactical.com

I did a KevinB C7CT clone in .224 valkyrie, shoots to 1035yds wonderfully. I have had a mark 4 on it, and the wacky grip and stock. its currently in an A2 and m16a2 grip setup with a Nikon M Tactical 3-12.

you cant get the .936 gb or barrel so i used a bison .750 and chopped an A2 fsb down. i love this thing. Always wanted a CT!







past iterations:

I want that lower.

Does anyone have any pictures of this ugly bastard in any Canadian services or agencies? "In the wild"

Is it possible to find a TRI-AD II mount?

I've also never seen any clones besides airsoft.

Been collecting parts for this build for a while now, and and I'm still not quite there yet, but I am close so I figured I'd post about it.







Pics of this CANSOFCOM Colt Canada IUR surfaced a while ago and really inspired me to try and build a clone of it.



It's a Danish over run surplus C8 IUR with the grenade launcher lug milled off and a 10.5" barrel swapped in.  The problem is, even with the Allen Engineering extender on the 10.5" barrel, it's still not right, so I'll have to dump the 10.5" barrel and extender for the correct 11.5" barrel with Allen Engineering sleeve.  Anyway, this is what I have for now:









As you can see, my 10.5" barrel is still too short (The SAS IUR uppers are even shorter at 10")

With my other Colt Canada rifles





With my Mk18 clones



From left to right, BHD clone, Mk18 Mod 0, Mk18 Block II, CANSOFCOM clone.

I haven't bothered painting it yet because I don't even have the right barrel for it yet.  Will definitely paint it up eventually to look like the rifle that inspired the build.

So then these pics popped up:





So what was I to do?  I made the mistake of visiting my pal at CTCS and he happened to have one of those Maxim stocks on his shelf......@$%&*#@!





















So off came the Magpul stock and buffer tube....





And into the spare parts bin for a future build...



























Still deciding if I like it or not, and which clone look to go after.

Terrible idea going to the good stores, happens everytime I go to Wolverine...

Looks like they're using Magpul sling loops on the uppers in front of the optic.

Just saying

Shit, now I'll have to get one of those......

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I can’t seem to find any. That’s an interesting build. Where does one get that kind of handguard?