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Posted: 11/13/2012 12:09:23 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/13/2012 6:38:12 PM EDT
I dig the FDE model.
Link Posted: 11/13/2012 6:42:33 PM EDT
Whats with the all 1:9
Link Posted: 11/13/2012 6:49:26 PM EDT
Nice.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 10:29:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Rearwardassists:
Whats with the all 1:9


Nothing wrong with 1:9, it's actually better if all you shoot is 55 and 62 grain ammo.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 10:03:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By gggplaya:
Originally Posted By Rearwardassists:
Whats with the all 1:9


Nothing wrong with 1:9, it's actually better if all you shoot is 55 and 62 grain ammo.


But it isn't cool
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 5:40:34 PM EDT
Any midlengths?
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 7:21:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By gggplaya:
Originally Posted By Rearwardassists:
Whats with the all 1:9


Nothing wrong with 1:9, it's actually better if all you shoot is 55 and 62 grain ammo.


But it isn't cool


There's nothing cool about it. You can't even see it. Many people who buy personal defense ammunition for their AR, are usually attracted to the heavier weight hollowpoints and not the varmint polymer tips. My first AR was a 1:9 which was a waste because I ended up selling it once it key holed my 75gr TAP. Live and learn. But there's no reason for me to ever own a 1:9.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 7:45:01 PM EDT
To each their own - I'm OK with 1 in 9 twist.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 8:14:10 PM EDT
Any models with a chrome lined barrel?
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 8:47:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By yendikeno:
To each their own - I'm OK with 1 in 9 twist.


You're right. Each person will decide what's best for them.

However, why settle? I've gone through the paces and made buying mistakes and it cost me. Now that I have more AR experience and knowledge, I know better. But that's what makes the AR platform so great, you fit it to suit YOU. No reason to just be, "OK" with something.
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 9:28:09 PM EDT
Glad to see you guys branching out. Love my DB380
Link Posted: 11/16/2012 9:34:57 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sturmjr:
Originally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By gggplaya:
Originally Posted By Rearwardassists:
Whats with the all 1:9


Nothing wrong with 1:9, it's actually better if all you shoot is 55 and 62 grain ammo.


But it isn't cool


There's nothing cool about it. You can't even see it. Many people who buy personal defense ammunition for their AR, are usually attracted to the heavier weight hollowpoints and not the varmint polymer tips. My first AR was a 1:9 which was a waste because I ended up selling it once it key holed my 75gr TAP. Live and learn. But there's no reason for me to ever own a 1:9.

They make 55 and 62 GR bullets for self defense.
Link Posted: 11/16/2012 10:30:17 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Ermac:
Originally Posted By sturmjr:
Originally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By gggplaya:
Originally Posted By Rearwardassists:
Whats with the all 1:9


Nothing wrong with 1:9, it's actually better if all you shoot is 55 and 62 grain ammo.


But it isn't cool


There's nothing cool about it. You can't even see it. Many people who buy personal defense ammunition for their AR, are usually attracted to the heavier weight hollowpoints and not the varmint polymer tips. My first AR was a 1:9 which was a waste because I ended up selling it once it key holed my 75gr TAP. Live and learn. But there's no reason for me to ever own a 1:9.

They make 55 and 62 GR bullets for self defense.


As well as 69 and 72 gr ammo.
Link Posted: 11/16/2012 11:46:06 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Ermac:
Originally Posted By sturmjr:
Originally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By gggplaya:
Originally Posted By Rearwardassists:
Whats with the all 1:9


Nothing wrong with 1:9, it's actually better if all you shoot is 55 and 62 grain ammo.


But it isn't cool


There's nothing cool about it. You can't even see it. Many people who buy personal defense ammunition for their AR, are usually attracted to the heavier weight hollowpoints and not the varmint polymer tips. My first AR was a 1:9 which was a waste because I ended up selling it once it key holed my 75gr TAP. Live and learn. But there's no reason for me to ever own a 1:9.

They make 55 and 62 GR bullets for self defense.


Where did I say that they didn't?

I stated that MOST people who own an AR and buy self defense ammunition, are looking to shoot heavy hollow points with better performance than polymer tipped varmint rounds. I have some left over polymer tipped TAP ammo but the majority of my stash is T2 TAP and 75gr TAP FPD. With a 1:7" twist, I can still shoot those lighter 55gr/62gr rounds. However, with a 1:9 twist, SOME barrels will stabilize the heavier bullets and some won't.
Link Posted: 11/16/2012 2:50:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sturmjr:
Originally Posted By Ermac:
Originally Posted By sturmjr:
Originally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By gggplaya:
Originally Posted By Rearwardassists:
Whats with the all 1:9


Nothing wrong with 1:9, it's actually better if all you shoot is 55 and 62 grain ammo.


But it isn't cool


There's nothing cool about it. You can't even see it. Many people who buy personal defense ammunition for their AR, are usually attracted to the heavier weight hollowpoints and not the varmint polymer tips. My first AR was a 1:9 which was a waste because I ended up selling it once it key holed my 75gr TAP. Live and learn. But there's no reason for me to ever own a 1:9.

They make 55 and 62 GR bullets for self defense.


Where did I say that they didn't?

I stated that MOST people who own an AR and buy self defense ammunition, are looking to shoot heavy hollow points with better performance than polymer tipped varmint rounds. I have some left over polymer tipped TAP ammo but the majority of my stash is T2 TAP and 75gr TAP FPD. With a 1:7" twist, I can still shoot those lighter 55gr/62gr rounds. However, with a 1:9 twist, SOME barrels will stabilize the heavier bullets and some won't.

True, you didn't. Up to what distance about will they not stabilize?

Link Posted: 11/16/2012 4:05:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Ermac:
True, you didn't. Up to what distance about will they not stabilize?



It really is dependant on the individual barrel and its length. Some won't stabilize at all, while I've seen others do well at 100yds. So it really is dependant. But that's why I'll never go back to 1:9. I am able to shoot EVERY round I did with my 1:9 PLUS the heavier TAP ammo that I was key-holing.
Link Posted: 11/16/2012 6:50:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sturmjr:
Originally Posted By Ermac:
True, you didn't. Up to what distance about will they not stabilize?



It really is dependant on the individual barrel and its length. Some won't stabilize at all, while I've seen others do well at 100yds. So it really is dependant. But that's why I'll never go back to 1:9. I am able to shoot EVERY round I did with my 1:9 PLUS the heavier TAP ammo that I was key-holing.

If we're talking self defense, 100 yards is fine. 1:9 is suppose to stabalize 73 GR bullets at the max.
Link Posted: 11/17/2012 11:29:42 AM EDT
Will the 300BLK rifles have a price difference?
Link Posted: 11/17/2012 11:39:20 AM EDT
I'm liking the looks of the railed forearm.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 8:01:15 PM EDT
Where can we buy? Washington state? I really want the NiB!
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 3:45:05 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 3:46:56 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 7:58:59 AM EDT
I want a NiB too. Please put the name Chris Pratt on one. I'll be ordering thru my local FFL favorite.
Link Posted: 11/24/2012 6:14:16 PM EDT
Keep the 75 Tap, and the 77gr stuff, there are way, way better loads for self defense than those loads at lower weights, I shoot a 1/8 and wouldnt go there because there is much betterloads for SD as well as hunting..Wow just.....wow.
Link Posted: 11/24/2012 6:59:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By volo:
Keep the 75 Tap, and the 77gr stuff, there are way, way better loads for self defense than those loads at lower weights, I shoot a 1/8 and wouldnt go there because there is much betterloads for SD as well as hunting..Wow just.....wow.

Agreed. There are plenty of perfectly acceptable SD loads that will stabalize in a 1:8 or 1:9 barrel.
Link Posted: 11/25/2012 4:27:59 PM EDT
We carry the Diamondback AR15 at our store and I have to say, they seem like a well built firearm. I love the feel of the rail! I have not had a chance to shoot one yet, but hopefuly will soon enough.
Link Posted: 11/26/2012 4:57:33 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/27/2012 2:21:50 AM EDT

The 1/9 twist OMG !!

A Commercial Extension / buffer tube !!



1-9
Even though the Best Loads for SHTF or SD,HD are the 5.56mm Bonded 62gr/64gr and the Black Hills 5.56mm 50gr TSX

And guess what the 1-9 twist can handle those loads.

Most of the guys in the know gave up the fragmenting 75gr and 77gr OTM`

BTW
Haven't ever heard of any major problems with commercial extensions since I've been at AR15.com
Link Posted: 11/27/2012 3:50:41 AM EDT
Originally Posted By MIKE2:
I dig the FDE model.




I like it too!
Link Posted: 11/27/2012 7:24:45 AM EDT
Are the rails sold separately ? I didn't see them on the website.
Link Posted: 11/27/2012 7:34:13 AM EDT
Mmmm... I'm getting a silly feeling about the NiB model.

Will you be selling receiver sets along with full rifles?
Link Posted: 11/27/2012 9:17:17 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/27/2012 9:22:00 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/9/2012 11:27:42 AM EDT
1:9 or 1:7, who cares. What does this rifle do for me that the M&P, Rock River or any other mid tier AR manufacturer do? Its just another run of the mill AR.
Link Posted: 12/10/2012 6:37:59 AM EDT
I would be interested in an FDE upper/lower receiver.
Link Posted: 12/10/2012 6:50:06 AM EDT
The FDE looks nice, but is this the same company that makes the .380 Pistol?
Link Posted: 12/10/2012 10:37:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/11/2012 11:50:44 AM EDT
Are these all direct impingement or are some piston?
Link Posted: 12/11/2012 12:40:31 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/11/2012 3:35:50 PM EDT
I handled a FDE model and it seemed well finished and tight fitting. Really liked the rail.

I just sent my DB9 with ported barrel to DB today for work. They emailed a shipping label and agreed to take care of it with shipping both ways. Took my call and I had the shipping label all in one day.

Couldn't ask for more IMO.
Link Posted: 12/11/2012 3:53:11 PM EDT
if the diamondback's ar reliability is similar to the db380 and the db9mm i used to have - then let the buyer beware !
Link Posted: 12/12/2012 1:48:08 PM EDT
Thanks. Nice looking weapons by the way.
Link Posted: 12/12/2012 6:39:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/12/2012 6:47:16 PM EDT by GlassHalfFull]
Originally Posted By tbd1966:
1:9 or 1:7, who cares. What does this rifle do for me that the M&P, Rock River or any other mid tier AR manufacturer do? Its just another run of the mill AR.


Not to be a jerk to the OP but +1. 1:9 barrels are usually a great deal cheaper than 1:7 so it makes sense to build a rifle with one if you are cutting cost and passing it on. The cost of the rifle is higher than other mid tier AR's with 1:7 twist though. I'm not saying its cutting corners as a smaller shop usually puts more money into building the rifle than S&W or Rock River. I will say the DB-15FDE looks nice, But the standard model reminds me of a DPMS sportical for 300 bucks more. A standard plane Jane AR-15 for 850 doesn't seem like a great start, maybe I'm missing something here? The handguards might sell good for the right price point.
Link Posted: 12/13/2012 12:40:37 PM EDT
What is innovative about these rifles' design?
You obviously were proud enough of them to market them, what makes them stand out?
Link Posted: 12/13/2012 1:17:55 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/18/2012 7:29:43 PM EDT
DB, what is this FDE finish (Finish: Diamondback Flat Dark Earth) ?
Link Posted: 12/29/2012 7:25:30 PM EDT
I purchased a new DB-15B. So far I took it apart and inspected it and then oiled it and put 60 rounds through it at the range. I installed a set of magpul open sights and a vertical grip. I like the feel of the gun. Rifle shot well at the range i had zero problems. I just tore it down and inspected everything looked good.
Link Posted: 12/30/2012 5:41:02 PM EDT
We got one in when the buying frenzy hit, and to be honest, it's way better than I had expected. I expected something weak along the lines of their handguns (please don't take that personal), but they are very well built, and I wouldn't be afraid to own one myself. They are very light, and handy. Surprised the hell out of me!


DBAR
Link Posted: 1/6/2013 6:31:50 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/6/2013 6:33:32 PM EDT
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