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Posted: 3/29/2006 12:15:49 PM EST
Anyone have any ideas where to get dessicant? I don't have any around in other product boxes. Are there alternatives to this for tossing in ammo cans? I use dry rice to keep the salt from sticking in shakers, but I don't like the idea of a food product in with ammo.

I need to keep ammo stored in the garage and subject to temp changes so I am a little concerned that even dessicant will not prevent condensation.

Suggestions appreciated.
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 12:51:19 PM EST
I toss a pack of silica gel into each ammo can. I just use silica gel that I find packed with electronics. My ammo cans have excellent seals, so I'm not worried about moisture penetrating the ammo cans.
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 1:24:53 PM EST
Uncented kittly litter (the krystals) in pantyhose knotted at both ends works for me.
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 1:35:43 PM EST
Large dessicant packs come in motorcycle, ATV, and watercraft crates.
Most dealers throw em away. Call around to the local shops and talk to the service managers, they may just hook you up for dirt cheap or free.

DaddyDett
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 2:46:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By defenderhome:
Anyone have any ideas where to get dessicant? I don't have any around in other product boxes. Are there alternatives to this for tossing in ammo cans? I use dry rice to keep the salt from sticking in shakers, but I don't like the idea of a food product in with ammo.

I need to keep ammo stored in the garage and subject to temp changes so I am a little concerned that even dessicant will not prevent condensation.

Suggestions appreciated.



www.uline.com/ProductDetail.asp?model=S-1058&ref=1001

Good prices, one bag is plenty for a 50cal can.
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 5:02:08 PM EST
Thanks for the info! Very helpful!
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 6:02:24 PM EST
I get all of mine from shoe boxes, the women in my family are buying shoes for what seems like non stop so they save them for me and I have more than enough plus I like the fact they are little so I can stick them all over the place inside my ammo boxes
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 6:44:56 PM EST

Originally Posted By jaymeister99:

Originally Posted By defenderhome:
Anyone have any ideas where to get dessicant? I don't have any around in other product boxes. Are there alternatives to this for tossing in ammo cans? I use dry rice to keep the salt from sticking in shakers, but I don't like the idea of a food product in with ammo.

I need to keep ammo stored in the garage and subject to temp changes so I am a little concerned that even dessicant will not prevent condensation.

Suggestions appreciated.



www.uline.com/ProductDetail.asp?model=S-1058&ref=1001

Good prices, one bag is plenty for a 50cal can.





+1
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 2:48:45 AM EST
I used RICE in my big can that I cant even pick up when loaded? I put the rice in it in 1998 and open it yesterday to get some handgun ammo and its just FINE!


Also my Wife buys so many shoes I use all here little packages that come in the Shoe Box

Dont really need to buy the stuff?
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 8:19:26 AM EST
I live in the desert......only rains in August here. Rest of the year is bone dry. But I still use the little packs that come in the shoe boxes. Go to Target or Wally world and go to the shoe department, at least 2 of those paks come in every shoe box. I liberate a few of them off of the floor ( our Walmarts get trashed by the Mexican shoppers from Juarez).
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 8:21:47 AM EST
Am I missing something on desiccant? How long can a small pack last and does it have any absorbency left after going into a shoebox or DVD player box in China crossing the Pacific, sitting in a warehouse for awhile then on the shelf of a store for a month or more?
The desiccant I bought came in a large container of 300. It states on the container

"Remove lid slowly to remove air"

"Reseal container immediately after opening to protect contents"


I have the container lined with 2 plastic trash bags that fold over the seal. When I seal a ammo can I do not open it until I need it. The contents and all info on the ammo is printed on a shipping tag and attached to the handle so I never have to open it to check the contents. I will keep doing it this way because I am comfortable about the protection the desiccant provides.
Am I being a little to anal about this and wasting a lot of time and $$?

Link Posted: 3/30/2006 8:26:15 AM EST
Depends on your environment. If you live in the desert, probably too anal about it. OTOH, what you are doing will help your ammo last a lot longer.

If you ever need to dry the desicant out, toss it on a pie plate in the oven @ 300° for a while. That'll dry it up real nice.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 11:01:24 AM EST
I'm in the KC area. It gets very damp and humid around here. Besides that, we occasionally get some very heavy rains (it's supposed to dump on us any minute now), sometimes my basement will take some water, so at times it can get more than "damp". Of course the basement is where I keep my my ammo. I buy ammo like others buy stocks or bonds. Call me fatalistic, I call myself a realist. I've got a LOT of ammo stored, the last thing I want is my investment comprimised in anyway. I've been buying silica gel from a place called
"Jakes Marketplace Inc"

http://www.jakesmp.com/CSD_Silica_Gel/CSD_Silica_004_M.html

sorry I can NEVER remember how to make links live on this site, but you can cut and paste.
He's got the best prices of anyone on the net, especially if you buy in quantity.
Personlly I buy the 4 gram aluminum canisters, I know it's overkill, but I pay less for those than I do 50 cal ammo cans. The nice thing is they are easily "refreshed" in the oven, they have a quick sight window so you can check if the silica gel needs to be refreshed, and the size is ideal, 4"X2"X1/4" This size will give 3 CU FT of protection. They also have every size packet known to man. I've ordered from them twice, the product arrives quickly. Their website shows every size and how much area that size will protect.
Hope this helps.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 11:45:05 AM EST
I got mine from Jakes Marketplace too.

You can buy smaller quantities of packets than at Uline's.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 11:49:56 AM EST

I got a bunch of big ones from two sources for free. I had a friend that fixed copiers. Big dessicant packs was put in with the photo-sensitive drum thingy for fixing copiers. Another source was a friend who worked at a technology company. Computer chips are often shipped with dessicant. Just ask around.

Shok
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 12:10:55 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dragonfly228:
Uncented kittly litter (the krystals) in pantyhose knotted at both ends works for me.



+1
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 1:29:26 PM EST
Any difference between silica or clay desiccants effectiveness when used properly in a sealed 50 cal ammo can?
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 2:05:52 PM EST
Thanks again--this is great information!
I am at the NC coast and we are difinately humid. That is my concern. I am new to AR's but a ittle nervous about ammo prices and the future. Have just started buying some ammo. have about 4k rounds now but wife is not very understanding on why I need at least several K of a few different types
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 2:15:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By defenderhome:
Thanks again--this is great information!
I am at the NC coast and we are difinately humid. That is my concern. I am new to AR's but a ittle nervous about ammo prices and the future. Have just started buying some ammo. have about 4k rounds now but wife is not very understanding on why I need at least several K of a few different types




Rule 1. Never but never let the wife see all the ammo in one place at one time.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 2:59:22 PM EST
My brother is the head of a company that uses a lot of packaged parts. I called him yesterday and asked if he had access to the packs, he said no problem, and 24 hours later droped off a five pound bag of different sizes. he said they throw away that much each day. Check all you buddies in the electrionics biss.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:32:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By BSTOCK:
Am I missing something on desiccant? How long can a small pack last and does it have any absorbency left after going into a shoebox or DVD player box in China crossing the Pacific, sitting in a warehouse for awhile then on the shelf of a store for a month or more?
The desiccant I bought came in a large container of 300. It states on the container

"Remove lid slowly to remove air"

"Reseal container immediately after opening to protect contents"


I have the container lined with 2 plastic trash bags that fold over the seal. When I seal a ammo can I do not open it until I need it. The contents and all info on the ammo is printed on a shipping tag and attached to the handle so I never have to open it to check the contents. I will keep doing it this way because I am comfortable about the protection the desiccant provides.
Am I being a little to anal about this and wasting a lot of time and $$?





If you have air-tight ammo cans that you are putting them into (along w/Ammo), then indefinitely, or at least until the seal wears out, which has to be 40+ years AS LONG AS YOU DONT OPEN THEM. I got ammo cans from the 60s that still have decent seals. Once all the oxygen and moisture is sucked out of the can, its as good as a vacuum seal. Which BTW, If you want to take things a step further then vacuum seal your ammo w/dessicant instead. Actually in the long run this is probably cheaper than ammo cans.

But again, seeing a big stack of full ammo cans is like "ammo porn" !
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:37:51 PM EST
Tag for great info...
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:38:19 PM EST
She sees the darned cc bill...
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 4:04:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By defenderhome:
She sees the darned cc bill...




OK, that makes sense. My wife couldn't bother looking at any bills. I guess I am lucky
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 4:15:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/30/2006 4:17:19 PM EST by BSTOCK]




QUOTE If you have air-tight ammo cans that you are putting them into (along w/Ammo), then indefinitely, or at least until the seal wears out, which has to be 40+ years AS LONG AS YOU DONT OPEN THEM. I got ammo cans from the 60s that still have decent seals. Once all the oxygen and moisture is sucked out of the can, its as good as a vacuum seal. Which BTW, If you want to take things a step further then vacuum seal your ammo w/dessicant instead. Actually in the long run this is probably cheaper than ammo cans.

But again, seeing a big stack of full ammo cans is like "ammo porn" !QUOTE


Well I'm 59 so I guess if they stay sealed till I die my children will have good ammo.
Your right about the ammo porn aspect. Sometimes I go into the garage and look at my cars then check out the gun safe, and last but not least check out the pallet of full ammo cans, all neatly labeled. It can make a so so day good. Looking at all that ammo is almost enough to get me aroused.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 4:52:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By defenderhome:
She sees the darned cc bill...



Are you ordering from somewhere else? Use money orders.

If buying in-town, use cash.

How do you think she gets a lot of her stuff without letting you know?

Credit cards -- sheesh -- giving away intel is never a good idea. Make her work for it.

Link Posted: 3/30/2006 7:02:34 PM EST
Pharmacies pull dessicant packs out of pill bottles all day long. If you go to an independent pharmacy, ask the pharmacist/owner if he and his staff will save them for you the next day. Maybe call a day or two ahead with your refill order and ask them to give you what they saved when you come in to pick up your Rx.

Link Posted: 3/30/2006 7:11:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By toyotaman:
Pharmacies pull dessicant packs out of pill bottles all day long. If you go to an independent pharmacy, ask the pharmacist/owner if he and his staff will save them for you the next day. Maybe call a day or two ahead with your refill order and ask them to give you what they saved when you come in to pick up your Rx.




Now thats a good idea.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 7:15:44 PM EST
Why does everyone misspell desiccant?
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 9:55:59 PM EST
Yeah, I don't understand it either. Dessikant is such an easy word to spell, too!
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 9:56:53 PM EST
Ooops - I meant desikant!
Link Posted: 3/31/2006 3:07:08 AM EST
Unfortunately the wife IS the bookkeeper (accountant). $ coming or going whether it is ATM or checks, etc. I stash a bit away every now and then for a toy buy. She is tight and rarely buys things. I could go all out if I wanted but I may start HER spending and I don't want to venture down that road if I can help it--may not make it back!
Link Posted: 3/31/2006 7:10:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/31/2006 7:14:08 AM EST by BSTOCK]

Originally Posted By DNA:
Ooops - I meant desikant!



Your a funny guy. www.dictionary.com or is it dickshonary

des·ic·cant ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ds-knt)
n.
A substance, such as calcium oxide or silica gel, that has a high affinity for water and is used as a drying agent.


Exited to add. I am a terrible speller so I visit there a lot. I went to a scol that suks.
Link Posted: 3/31/2006 6:15:11 PM EST
Dessicant
<Back to Last Page> <Full Glossary>
Definition: a drying agent. A chemical species which picks up water molecules.

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evidently i am not the only one
Link Posted: 3/31/2006 7:58:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/31/2006 8:48:18 PM EST by BSTOCK]

Originally Posted By defenderhome:
Dessicant
<Back to Last Page> <Full Glossary>
Definition: a drying agent. A chemical species which picks up water molecules.

Related Resources:

Periodic Table from your About Guide
This in an interactive periodic table of..

Copied from web
evidently i am not the only one





When you Googled it this is what came up first. "Did you mean: Desiccant"
The company I buy it from, Uline spells it desiccant as does Jakesmp both mentioned in this thread. Plus the dictionary also spells it desiccant. I don't care how some scientific journal or periodic table etc. spells it.
The reason I even brought this up is my spelling is not the best and I noticed desiccant spelled so many different ways I just wanted to mention it. I am not correcting anyone just trying to share. Have a good weekend all.


Edited for spelling
Link Posted: 4/1/2006 5:10:03 AM EST
I need all the help I can geth.gif
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 8:03:13 PM EST
Me to!! I was edgekated at a publik skool. he We may not spell worth a damn, but we sure know AR-15s!!
Link Posted: 4/17/2006 6:27:57 PM EST
Not to be ignorant here, most of those desiccants are non-indicating. How can you tell if they are still functioning? I know you can mark the weight on the bags, then weigh it when you open your ammo can. Do you guys actually do that?

The Kristal kitty litter is a pain. It creates a lot of fine dust like sand. Don't think my AR would like it.

The best I find is this:

http://www.remington.com/products/accessories/storage_&_safety/model_365_mini-Dehumidifier.asp

I keep one in my AR case and re-charge it every week or two.
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