Decided to just make a very very early 64 Colt 604 clone

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Posted: 12/10/2016 3:59:27 PM EDT

Was going to do the 602 clone but decided to restore my 82 SP1 to its original condition and build a very early 604. Here are the pics. Barrel is a cmpb that I had the FSB modded to look earlier by JT. All other parts are original except the very early SP1 upper and dimple sight screw which is a reproduction. Also of the receiver is a NDS partial fence. Carbon steel gas tube, transitional bolt catch,dimple mag catch with many circles mag release button, c stock, 602 grip, edgewater, 601 FCG, no drain screw, 601 pistol grip screw, 601 receiver extension with hole, early armalite port door, 1 no drain hole hand guard and one polished to look old, original dimple pins, original 3 prong refinished by JT, p marked bolt, flat head firing pin, milled FPRP and early chrome carrier with 3/4 gas key with square stakes. One day I may find an earlier barrel.

Posted: 12/10/2016 4:13:28 PM EDT

[#1]

Looks awesome! Enjoy these old looking rifles!

Posted: 12/10/2016 4:49:51 PM EDT

[#2]

Way cool. Great gathering and utilization of parts. Can always use your built lower if you luck on to a 602 upper. Hope it shoots as great as it looks.

Early 604 easily my favorite of all the retro's less maybe an authentic 607 and I've only ever seen / touched one (upper only) of those besides in pics. Early 604 really not much different than 01-02 besides a couple parts less 01 green.

Posted: 12/10/2016 5:21:39 PM EDT

[#3]

That looks really nice.

Posted: 12/10/2016 5:38:20 PM EDT

[#4]

Looks really good!

Posted: 12/10/2016 6:05:08 PM EDT

[#5]

Wow, I like it! Question though, why did you leave out the roll pin in the lower? Again, fantastic job.

Posted: 12/10/2016 6:19:24 PM EDT

[#6]

It didn't come with it. Bought it used. But if someone wants to hook me up I'll take it!

Posted: 12/10/2016 6:45:02 PM EDT

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you could always get a couple short ones at the hardware store and push them in from each side

Posted: 12/10/2016 6:54:33 PM EDT

[#8]

Looks great!!
Thx for sharing, well done

Posted: 12/10/2016 6:55:58 PM EDT

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you could always get a couple short ones at the hardware store and push them in from each side

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What size?

Posted: 12/10/2016 7:30:39 PM EDT

[#10]

I'm jealous! The finish on your upper is sooooooooo much better than mine. Although mine as a M VP 12 with a cast FSB attached to her....

The progress on mine is moving but too she took a back burner to my GM Hydra build.

Posted: 12/10/2016 7:33:55 PM EDT

[#11]

Very nice Taz. That would be a 63 604 upper. One of the very earliest with a cast FSB! My MVP with a forged FSB (on my very very early 1964 XM16E1 clone) wasn't cheap at all. Your barrel is a great score!

Posted: 12/10/2016 7:34:17 PM EDT

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What size?

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you could always get a couple short ones at the hardware store and push them in from each side

What size?

3/32

Posted: 12/10/2016 7:40:29 PM EDT

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It didn't come with it. Bought it used. But if someone wants to hook me up I'll take it!

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William,
They are 3/32"x 7/8". I ended up getting 25 off of ebay.
IM me your mailing address again, and I will send you a few.

Posted: 12/10/2016 8:23:53 PM EDT

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Very nice Taz. That would be a 63 604 upper. One of the very earliest with a cast FSB! My MVP with a forged FSB wasn't cheap at all. Your barrel is a great score!

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Yours is gorgeous. I just need a few more things yet to get mine proper. The first to go will be the wide band parked MP bolt for a wide band chrome MP and find a flat head firing pin. Got the C stock/no drain handguards, edgewater, etc and I just have to get my take down pins dimpled and find a early bend steel gas tube. Within the year I'm thinking.

Posted: 12/10/2016 10:11:05 PM EDT

[#15]

Very nice! I love it! Whats the difference between a 602 grip and a later one? Also, where did you find the no drain hole buttstock screw? Approximate cost? I need one for my xm16e1.

Posted: 12/10/2016 10:51:33 PM EDT

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Very nice! I love it! Whats the difference between a 602 grip and a later one? Also, where did you find the no drain hole buttstock screw? Approximate cost? I need one for my xm16e1.

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In the same vein, wherever did you find the dimpled mag catch? I have been looking for one for over a year, with no luck. Do you by chance know where another one might be lurking?

Posted: 12/10/2016 10:52:55 PM EDT

[#17]

BW777 and Machinehead AKA Lionel and Kevin. Depends on the condition of the grip. They are hard to find. They are skinnier than a standard grip. Thanks for the roll pin Dan IM sent. Also I used a narrow band P marked chrome bolt on this rifle.

Posted: 12/11/2016 4:10:04 PM EDT

[#18]

The addiction continues! Lookin' good...

Posted: 12/12/2016 9:11:43 AM EDT

[#19]

Thanks Justin I need to stop by and have you do some engraving on two of my lowers!

Posted: 12/12/2016 11:13:23 AM EDT

[#20]

Nice Build!!!!!

Posted: 12/12/2016 11:15:40 AM EDT

[#21]

Really nice man. Exactly how I want mine to turn out

Posted: 12/18/2016 6:27:29 PM EDT

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William,
They are 3/32"x 7/8". I ended up getting 25 off of ebay.
IM me your mailing address again, and I will send you a few.

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It didn't come with it. Bought it used. But if someone wants to hook me up I'll take it!

William,
They are 3/32"x 7/8". I ended up getting 25 off of ebay.
IM me your mailing address again, and I will send you a few.

Thanks Dan!

Posted: 12/18/2016 6:33:54 PM EDT

[#23]

Those seem very close to the buffer detent pin roll pins used in the Cav Arms Mk 2/Sabre Defense/GWACS, albeit probably shorter.

http://www.cavmfg.com/CAV-15-Buffer-Detent-Roll-Pin-CAVRP.htm

$2 shipped.

Posted: 12/18/2016 6:40:47 PM EDT

[#24]

Dan hooked me up with 3 of them. That pic above shows it installed Dan is the Man!

Posted: 12/18/2016 6:44:32 PM EDT

[#25]

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Thanks Dan!

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Your very welcome.
Wow, I got to contribute one of the finishing touches to this fine rifle

Posted: 12/18/2016 8:42:46 PM EDT

[#26]

Beautiful!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: 12/18/2016 9:08:44 PM EDT

[#27]

OH YEAH! That's a beauty!

Love me some slick siders!

Posted: 12/18/2016 9:38:11 PM EDT

[#28]

Nice, 604's are my fav. I think I did the 601/602 thing just for the challenge of finding the parts.

Posted: 12/18/2016 10:09:06 PM EDT

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Nice, 604's are my fav. I think I did the 601/602 thing just for the challenge of finding the parts.

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Thanks for the compliments. I really wanted to do a 601 or 602 but it's just too costly for me. Plus I would not be happy until everything was perfect. This turned out great and I'm happy with the results. Plus I won't be nervous about shooting this one. I don't want to put many rounds through my correct very early XM16E1 clone.

Posted: 12/18/2016 11:26:41 PM EDT

[#30]

very nicely done ! Just when my RBRD is starting to subside, and having an abundance of retro upper parts, your pictures make me think, maybe two more Nodak lowers. Thanks a bunch.

Posted: 12/19/2016 8:03:54 AM EDT

[#31]

Amazing what one little roll pin will do for you.

Your 604 looks so fine I think I'll need to break mine out soon.

Posted: 12/19/2016 7:20:09 PM EDT

[#32]

Cool looking rifle. Makes me want to build another....must resist the urge....

Not to be a stickler, but really isn't that too many dimpled parts? I feel like I've seen verified original 601's with fewer dimpled parts.

Posted: 12/19/2016 9:03:18 PM EDT

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Cool looking rifle. Makes me want to build another....must resist the urge....

Not to be a stickler, but really isn't that too many dimpled parts? I feel like I've seen verified original 601's with fewer dimpled parts.

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Thanks well it could be possible. I modeled it off of ones I have seen online. Anything was possible in 1964 with it being in the transitional time period.

Posted: 12/19/2016 11:13:08 PM EDT

[#34]

I wish the bolt catch ears on nodak lowers were rounded like the early ones. Ever since I found that out its been bugging me.

Posted: 12/20/2016 2:02:36 AM EDT

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I wish the bolt catch ears on nodak lowers were rounded like the early ones. Ever since I found that out its been bugging me.

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You're not the only one, but I doubt that there are many retro clones that DO have the rounded ears. Whoever it was that first noticed the rounded ears is a REAL stickler for details!

Posted: 12/20/2016 11:40:11 AM EDT

[#36]

I really love the slicksides, those handguards came out great especially. Now you need a Circle 1 mag or maybe even a waffle!

Posted: 12/20/2016 11:45:01 AM EDT

[#37]

That is beautiful.

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Decided to just make a very very early 64 Colt 604 clone

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