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Posted: 12/10/2016 2:59:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/10/2016 4:29:52 PM EST by BROvet04]
Was going to do the 602 clone but decided to restore my 82 SP1 to its original condition and build a very early 604. Here are the pics. Barrel is a cmpb that I had the FSB modded to look earlier by JT. All other parts are original except the very early SP1 upper and dimple sight screw which is a reproduction. Also of the receiver is a NDS partial fence. Carbon steel gas tube, transitional bolt catch,dimple mag catch with many circles mag release button, c stock, 602 grip, edgewater, 601 FCG, no drain screw, 601 pistol grip screw, 601 receiver extension with hole, early armalite port door, 1 no drain hole hand guard and one polished to look old, original dimple pins, original 3 prong refinished by JT, p marked bolt, flat head firing pin, milled FPRP and early chrome carrier with 3/4 gas key with square stakes. One day I may find an earlier barrel.







Link Posted: 12/10/2016 3:13:28 PM EST
Looks awesome! Enjoy these old looking rifles!
Link Posted: 12/10/2016 3:49:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/10/2016 5:02:42 PM EST by Cdenmark]
Way cool. Great gathering and utilization of parts. Can always use your built lower if you luck on to a 602 upper. Hope it shoots as great as it looks.

Early 604 easily my favorite of all the retro's less maybe an authentic 607 and I've only ever seen / touched one (upper only) of those besides in pics. Early 604 really not much different than 01-02 besides a couple parts less 01 green.
Link Posted: 12/10/2016 4:21:39 PM EST
That looks really nice.
Link Posted: 12/10/2016 4:38:20 PM EST
Looks really good!
Link Posted: 12/10/2016 5:05:08 PM EST
Wow, I like it! Question though, why did you leave out the roll pin in the lower? Again, fantastic job.
Link Posted: 12/10/2016 5:19:24 PM EST
It didn't come with it. Bought it used. But if someone wants to hook me up I'll take it!
Link Posted: 12/10/2016 5:45:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BROvet04:
It didn't come with it. Bought it used. But if someone wants to hook me up I'll take it!
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you could always get a couple short ones at the hardware store and push them in from each side
Link Posted: 12/10/2016 5:54:33 PM EST
Looks great!!
Thx for sharing, well done
Link Posted: 12/10/2016 5:55:58 PM EST
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you could always get a couple short ones at the hardware store and push them in from each side
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What size?
Link Posted: 12/10/2016 6:30:39 PM EST
I'm jealous! The finish on your upper is sooooooooo much better than mine. Although mine as a M VP 12 with a cast FSB attached to her.... The progress on mine is moving but too she took a back burner to my GM Hydra build.

Link Posted: 12/10/2016 6:33:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/10/2016 10:15:29 PM EST by BROvet04]
Very nice Taz. That would be a 63 604 upper. One of the very earliest with a cast FSB! My MVP with a forged FSB (on my very very early 1964 XM16E1 clone) wasn't cheap at all. Your barrel is a great score!
Link Posted: 12/10/2016 6:34:17 PM EST
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What size?
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Originally Posted By Kalahnikid:


you could always get a couple short ones at the hardware store and push them in from each side


What size?

3/32
Link Posted: 12/10/2016 6:40:29 PM EST
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It didn't come with it. Bought it used. But if someone wants to hook me up I'll take it!
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William,
They are 3/32"x 7/8". I ended up getting 25 off of ebay.
IM me your mailing address again, and I will send you a few.
Link Posted: 12/10/2016 7:23:53 PM EST
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Very nice Taz. That would be a 63 604 upper. One of the very earliest with a cast FSB! My MVP with a forged FSB wasn't cheap at all. Your barrel is a great score!
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Yours is gorgeous. I just need a few more things yet to get mine proper. The first to go will be the wide band parked MP bolt for a wide band chrome MP and find a flat head firing pin. Got the C stock/no drain handguards, edgewater, etc and I just have to get my take down pins dimpled and find a early bend steel gas tube. Within the year I'm thinking.
Link Posted: 12/10/2016 9:11:05 PM EST
Very nice! I love it! Whats the difference between a 602 grip and a later one? Also, where did you find the no drain hole buttstock screw? Approximate cost? I need one for my xm16e1.
Link Posted: 12/10/2016 9:51:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Mauser48A:
Very nice! I love it! Whats the difference between a 602 grip and a later one? Also, where did you find the no drain hole buttstock screw? Approximate cost? I need one for my xm16e1.
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In the same vein, wherever did you find the dimpled mag catch? I have been looking for one for over a year, with no luck. Do you by chance know where another one might be lurking?
Link Posted: 12/10/2016 9:52:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/10/2016 10:12:49 PM EST by BROvet04]
BW777 and Machinehead AKA Lionel and Kevin. Depends on the condition of the grip. They are hard to find. They are skinnier than a standard grip. Thanks for the roll pin Dan IM sent. Also I used a narrow band P marked chrome bolt on this rifle.
Link Posted: 12/11/2016 3:10:04 PM EST
The addiction continues! Lookin' good...
Link Posted: 12/12/2016 8:11:43 AM EST
Thanks Justin I need to stop by and have you do some engraving on two of my lowers!
Link Posted: 12/12/2016 10:13:23 AM EST
Nice Build!!!!!
Link Posted: 12/12/2016 10:15:40 AM EST
Really nice man. Exactly how I want mine to turn out
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 5:27:29 PM EST
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William,
They are 3/32"x 7/8". I ended up getting 25 off of ebay.
IM me your mailing address again, and I will send you a few.
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Originally Posted By BROvet04:
It didn't come with it. Bought it used. But if someone wants to hook me up I'll take it!

William,
They are 3/32"x 7/8". I ended up getting 25 off of ebay.
IM me your mailing address again, and I will send you a few.

Thanks Dan!
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 5:33:54 PM EST
Those seem very close to the buffer detent pin roll pins used in the Cav Arms Mk 2/Sabre Defense/GWACS, albeit probably shorter.

http://www.cavmfg.com/CAV-15-Buffer-Detent-Roll-Pin-CAVRP.htm

$2 shipped.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 5:40:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/18/2016 5:42:32 PM EST by BROvet04]
Dan hooked me up with 3 of them. That pic above shows it installed Dan is the Man!
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 5:44:32 PM EST
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Thanks Dan!
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Your very welcome.
Wow, I got to contribute one of the finishing touches to this fine rifle
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 7:42:46 PM EST
Beautiful!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 8:08:44 PM EST
OH YEAH! That's a beauty!

Love me some slick siders!
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 8:38:11 PM EST
Nice, 604's are my fav. I think I did the 601/602 thing just for the challenge of finding the parts.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 9:09:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By VAAR:
Nice, 604's are my fav. I think I did the 601/602 thing just for the challenge of finding the parts.
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Thanks for the compliments. I really wanted to do a 601 or 602 but it's just too costly for me. Plus I would not be happy until everything was perfect. This turned out great and I'm happy with the results. Plus I won't be nervous about shooting this one. I don't want to put many rounds through my correct very early XM16E1 clone.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 10:26:41 PM EST
very nicely done ! Just when my RBRD is starting to subside, and having an abundance of retro upper parts, your pictures make me think, maybe two more Nodak lowers. Thanks a bunch.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 7:03:54 AM EST
Amazing what one little roll pin will do for you. Your 604 looks so fine I think I'll need to break mine out soon.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 6:20:09 PM EST
Cool looking rifle. Makes me want to build another....must resist the urge....

Not to be a stickler, but really isn't that too many dimpled parts? I feel like I've seen verified original 601's with fewer dimpled parts.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 8:03:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By m1carbinekid:
Cool looking rifle. Makes me want to build another....must resist the urge....

Not to be a stickler, but really isn't that too many dimpled parts? I feel like I've seen verified original 601's with fewer dimpled parts.
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Thanks well it could be possible. I modeled it off of ones I have seen online. Anything was possible in 1964 with it being in the transitional time period.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 10:13:08 PM EST
I wish the bolt catch ears on nodak lowers were rounded like the early ones. Ever since I found that out its been bugging me.
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 1:02:36 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Mauser48A:
I wish the bolt catch ears on nodak lowers were rounded like the early ones. Ever since I found that out its been bugging me.
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You're not the only one, but I doubt that there are many retro clones that DO have the rounded ears. Whoever it was that first noticed the rounded ears is a REAL stickler for details!
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 10:40:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/20/2016 10:42:00 AM EST by SGL_Shooter]
I really love the slicksides, those handguards came out great especially. Now you need a Circle 1 mag or maybe even a waffle!
Link Posted: 12/20/2016 10:45:01 AM EST
That is beautiful.
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