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Posted: 5/23/2005 6:49:06 AM EDT
I am new to the AR so this is my first summer owning the gun and I gotta tell ya it was about 98 degrees saturday and after three thirty round mags I could not even hold the rifle with flight gloves on.Is this normal?I have a 16" DPMS,do shorter barreled guns get hot faster?This may sound stupid but I was thinking of drilling several more rows of holes in heat shields and fore arm.Has anyone tried this?Hell if it is done nice and neat might look kinda good ya know,the skelatized look.What do you guys think?
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 6:53:29 AM EDT
at 98 degrees, the weapon is already warm. Putting 3 30 round mags through it slwoly should not change the temp of the firearm that much, however dumping 3 mags will make it very hot, especially if you have a rail instead of standard handguards. wear shooting glove on your non firing hand to keep the barrel from burning you. a leather work glove works well too.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 7:32:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By chris157c:
...wear shooting glove on your non firing hand to keep the barrel from burning you. a leather work glove works well too.



Use a plastic VFG and don't worry about the heat .
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 7:36:17 AM EDT
What is a plastic VFG?I have the standard hand guard,I was just wonderering if more vent holes would help cool better.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 7:43:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/23/2005 7:43:34 AM EDT by die-tryin]

Originally Posted By bwyatt:
What is a plastic VFG?I have the standard hand guard,I was just wonderering if more vent holes would help cool better.



VFG = Vertical Foreward Grip. those thingys ppl have hang off the bottom of their handguards.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 7:50:03 AM EDT
I guess I had that coming,need to get another cup of coffee.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 8:07:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bwyatt:
What is a plastic VFG?I have the standard hand guard,I was just wonderering if more vent holes would help cool better.



More vent holes won't help. If you don't want a VFG then get a set of Colt double sheilded M4 handguards. They are a bit fatter than the standard handguards but they keep your hands better protected.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 9:59:50 AM EDT
Wear an oven mitt. In tactical black of course.....
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 10:08:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/23/2005 10:08:42 AM EDT by SNorman]
I put 150 rounds through my AR the other day and it probably got hotter than it's ever been. Maybe because I was trading off with a friend, where normally I would take small breaks.

The barrel actually started steaming, I guess it had some oil on it or something. It was damn hot but I could still hold on to it OK.

Of course, it was only like 65 degrees out

Link Posted: 5/23/2005 10:58:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Ripcode:
Wear an oven mitt. In tactical black of course.....


It's standard issue for all spec op oven/cook masters.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 1:44:51 PM EDT
tango down VG
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 2:03:53 PM EDT
Could also look into a carbon fiber handguard. I just got a couple from Hiperform.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 2:05:55 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 2:14:17 PM EDT
Perhap's Brownell's has your answer:

Ceramic Inserts
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 2:22:44 PM EDT
Get a set of Colt M4 handguards with the double heatshield. I swapped the old single shield guards out for the Colt handguards on my carbine, and now I have no problems with heat during rapid fire, even without gloves.
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