Conventional vs. 2-stage NM trigger for SBR

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Conventional vs. 2-stage NM trigger for SBR

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:10:48 AM EDT

Help me decide, what kind of trigger should I go with for my next build, which is going to be an SBR?
I currently have a lower that I originally put together using a standard RRA LPK with conventional trigger. Sometime later I moved to an RRA 2-stage NM trigger. Honestly, I like them both.
The two stage of course is very crisp and fairly light. But the standard trigger, while being heavier, was still very smooth and crisp, and always had a very clean feeling break to it.
While I think for longer range shooting, the 2-stage is perfect, I'm thinking maybe I should be going with a standard trigger for the type of shooting the SBR will see, which would be faster action shooting.
What do you guys think?

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:19:41 AM EDT

[#1]

what difference does it make that its an SBR? I have 2 stage triggers in all my rifles/sbrs

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:21:40 AM EDT

[#2]

I use two stage triggers on my "fast action" guns but with a little shorter first stage for less travel. That way I can also make precise shots at longer ranges if I need to. When you're shooting fast, you won't notice the second stage.

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:40:18 AM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
what difference does it make that its an SBR? I have 2 stage triggers in all my rifles/sbrs

Basically for the sake of losing the two stage pull in favor of one clean, slightly heavier, trigger pull for fast action shooting.

Anyway, I'm looking for opinions, not saying this is the way it should be done. This was my thought on the subject, and I wanted to see what others with more experience have to say about it, perhaps even without a condescending tone along with it.

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:46:13 AM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
I use two stage triggers on my "fast action" guns but with a little shorter first stage for less travel. That way I can also make precise shots at longer ranges if I need to. When you're shooting fast, you won't notice the second stage.

Thanks Schulze, that's just the kind of advice/info I'm looking for.

Posted: 8/13/2007 11:43:30 AM EDT

[#5]

My recoil recovery takes longer than the longer trigger reset of the 2 stage. I dont see a bog disadvantage in a 2 stage up close. I see a huge benefit at longer distances though. I have a 2 stage on my SBR and will continue to use 2 stage triggers on all ARs.

Posted: 8/13/2007 12:00:28 PM EDT

[#6]

I can shoot as fast w/ my RRA 2 stage equipped rifle as I can w/ my single stage rifles. But, as you stated, 2 stage is the tits for distance shooting. I would go with the 2 stage.

Posted: 8/13/2007 2:35:18 PM EDT

[#7]

For my close and fast shooting, I like my JP single stage. It breaks very clean, has little take up, no overtravel, and resets very quick. Weight is about 4.5 pounds. The trigger is easy to manipulate well. I might like a 2 stage (where the final break can be a lighter) if I were a precision long range shooter, but that isn't what I use my gun for.

As you can see, lots of shooters like 2-stage triggers. I prefer single stage triggers, and I honestly think there is a large subjective component to the choice. Either can be shot well.

Posted: 8/13/2007 5:40:43 PM EDT

[#8]

Thanks for the replies everyone, much appreciated.

I definitely like the two stage for longer range precision. With my RRA NM, after the first stage is taken up, I feel like there is an inperceptible amount of take-up for the second stage. It feels like I'm just applying enough pressure until it breaks. I thought maybe a little take up might be better for action shooting, but based on these posts, I'll have to give the 2 stage a harder look in this area.

Posted: 8/13/2007 5:45:06 PM EDT

[#9]

I plan to give the JP single stage 4.5# a try, I really do not like the RRA 2 stage. There's no distinct 1st stage like the M1/M14.

Did you install it yourself?

Quoted:
For my close and fast shooting, I like my JP single stage. It breaks very clean, has little take up, no overtravel, and resets very quick. Weight is about 4.5 pounds. The trigger is easy to manipulate well. I might like a 2 stage (where the final break can be a lighter) if I were a precision long range shooter, but that isn't what I use my gun for.

As you can see, lots of shooters like 2-stage triggers. I prefer single stage triggers, and I honestly think there is a large subjective component to the choice. Either can be shot well.

Posted: 8/13/2007 5:50:34 PM EDT

[#10]

I've got a Single Stage Chip McCormick trigger in one of my rifles and I've been accused of having a FA rifle by some (ignorant) range officer once. The only way I think it could be better is if it was a lighter Timney trigger.

IMHO a nice light single stage would allow a greater rate of fire than an average two stager.

Nice light single for CQB.

Nice sharp two stage for Accuracy (distance).

Posted: 8/13/2007 5:57:57 PM EDT

[#11]

Does anyone know if the cmc kit will work with standard trigger/hammer pins w/o worry of walking out?

Mark

Posted: 8/13/2007 6:45:36 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
Does anyone know if the cmc kit will work with standard trigger/hammer pins w/o worry of walking out?

Mark

The CMC trigger comes with anit walk pins so you may as well use them. That is oversized pins with keepers. I have not had any issues with mine before or after I installed the KNS anti walks.

Posted: 8/14/2007 4:27:46 AM EDT

[#13]

Not sure if the pins are allowed in high power.?

Posted: 8/14/2007 5:42:35 AM EDT

[#14]

You can tune single stage to = the pound of a 2 stage trigger, or go lighter same holds true for a 2-stage.

Either trigger set up right is way better for long/short range work than a stock PC trigger.

I see no difference where a 2 stage breaks at 4.5 with take up being the first stage or where my JP breaks at 3.5 with no take up/creep/etc. A well set up JP is equal to a fine 1911 trigger.

It's all about what style you like better. Both styles can be used just fine.

Posted: 8/14/2007 6:22:08 AM EDT

[#15]

I think if you are accustomed to 2-stage triggers, then put them in all of your ARs, SBR or not.

Posted: 8/14/2007 8:18:15 AM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
For my close and fast shooting, I like my JP single stage. It breaks very clean, has little take up, no overtravel, and resets very quick. Weight is about 4.5 pounds. The trigger is easy to manipulate well. I might like a 2 stage (where the final break can be a lighter) if I were a precision long range shooter, but that isn't what I use my gun for.

As you can see, lots of shooters like 2-stage triggers. I prefer single stage triggers, and I honestly think there is a large subjective component to the choice. Either can be shot well.

Strictly for shooting, I like single stage better too. But all my guns have 2 stages. Why? Extra sear engagement for a little more safety. I'm hard on guns; I'm not gonna lie. When I'm running down a hill in the hill country, trip, and my gun goes flying and smashing into the limestone, I don't want it going off.

Posted: 8/14/2007 8:31:26 AM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
what difference does it make that its an SBR? I have 2 stage triggers in all my rifles/sbrs

I have all single stages that were tweaked and polished by me, and they are great.

No matter which way you go, feel and let-off are everything.

Posted: 8/14/2007 8:32:22 AM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
what difference does it make that its an SBR? I have 2 stage triggers in all my rifles/sbrs

Did you polish them?

It makes a difference.

Why pay for a Giselle when you don't have to?

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