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Posted: 10/27/2004 8:48:23 AM EST
Help guys, I'm really frustrated here. I picked up an Otis kit this weekend and was giving it a test run (AR needed cleaning anyways) and a cleaning patch slipped off and got stuck in the bore. It's wedged TIGHT too...I've tried pushing it out with a solid cleaning rod but am afraid to get any rougher with it, I don't want to damage my barrel. It's only a couple inches from the muzzle.

Any ideas? And while we're at it, any tips to keep it from happening again?

Thanks in advance,
Josh
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 8:50:59 AM EST
Oh geez, take your solid cleaning rod and push it out. What do you think you are going to hurt?

Bob
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 8:53:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By LOKNLOD:
And while we're at it, any tips to keep it from happening again?



Did you go in through the in-hole then pull it out through the out-hole? It's very important.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 8:54:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By Ky_Bob:
Oh geez, take your solid cleaning rod and push it out. What do you think you are going to hurt?

Bob



Well, to push any harder with the rod, I'm going to need a hammer.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 8:56:47 AM EST
pour break free down the muzzle to soak it, then push, the lubrication will help get it out.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 8:56:59 AM EST
What kind've patch is that?!?!?!?

Use a damn hammer then, punch that sucker OUT.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 9:10:41 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 9:12:32 AM EST
DREMEL!

Just push it out. Brass cleaning rod and tap it out if neccessary. Use something like the rubber handle on your hammer if you don't have a rubber mallet.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 9:43:58 AM EST
a bullet moving really fast, 3000+ fps followed by 50 thousand psi will do more damage than a tap on a cleaning rod
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 10:04:07 AM EST
jsut get a rod and pust the damn thing out
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 10:44:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2004 10:45:34 AM EST by Ky_Bob]

Originally Posted By LOKNLOD:

Originally Posted By Ky_Bob:
Oh geez, take your solid cleaning rod and push it out. What do you think you are going to hurt?

Bob



Well, to push any harder with the rod, I'm going to need a hammer.




Looks like it's "Hammertime!"



Bob

Link Posted: 10/27/2004 11:34:54 AM EST
Loknload,

The advice to resoak the patch with lube and then push it out is good. To keep this from happening again, ensure the end of the patch is pulled a good ways trough the eyelet. This is assuming you're using the round Otis patches.

Mike
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 11:35:02 AM EST
A buddy of mine just ran into the same problem with a SAR-3 and one of those cheesy German chain-type cleaning kits.
We removed the mess with a tool I made by brazing a brass screw to a length of brass rod bending the end into an 'L' shape.
If you can't braze I'm pretty sure you could make something similar with a piece of hollow tubing crimped onto the screw or locked on by set screw, although everything would have to be pretty darn small to fit the .22 bore.
Another option is a jag with a screw tip like one of those used for removing lead balls from a blackpowder rifle.
We weren't able to remove everything on the first try but eventually shredded the patch enough to push it out.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 11:37:25 AM EST
i'd joke that he should just shoot it out, but i'm afraid of getting sued...
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 11:42:25 AM EST
Tap Tap Tap AHHHRUUUU
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 11:42:36 AM EST
Yes. There are people here too dumb to even clean a gun.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 11:54:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By LOKNLOD:
Any ideas? And while we're at it, any tips to keep it from happening again?



Use Otis Patches and follow the directions.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 12:04:48 PM EST
Blow it out with hot air, just make sure you completely get your mouth around the A2 flashhider, or the hot air will be wasted escaping out the flash holes.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 12:08:49 PM EST
Shoot it out!

You may get a small bulge in the barrel, at worse, but it probably won't blow up!

Let me know what happens.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 12:10:25 PM EST
You guys are killin' me too funny!

Link Posted: 10/27/2004 12:19:48 PM EST
Shove the barrel up yer pooper, pull the trigger and have your friend post pics
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 12:24:43 PM EST

Originally Posted By 1Walker:
Shove the barrel up yer pooper, pull the trigger and have your friend post pics



Now come on ... that was a bit over the top. We've all been there, opening that first AR in attempt (and in good intentions) to clean it. We've all ran into issues, let's cut this guy a break.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 12:34:30 PM EST
A Boresnake will solve all of your future problems. I didn't know people still used those archaic patches these days when one 5 second pull does it all.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 12:40:28 PM EST
i still use them arrchaic patches
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 12:43:13 PM EST
I'd definately try compressed air first if you have a compressor.

If not, seperate the upper from the lower.
remove the bolt and carrier
insert a traditional solid cleaning rod in the barrel from the chamber side
rest the muzzle end of the barrel on a piece of wood
take a hammer and lightly drive the patch through.

I know it seems scary but it will be fine.

then, go buy a boresnake

Link Posted: 10/27/2004 12:56:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By 1Walker:
Shove the barrel up yer pooper, pull the trigger and have your friend post pics



This isn't the GD - keep that kind of comment over there.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 1:00:18 PM EST
Call ROTO ROOTER!!!!!!!!!
Jack
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 1:10:43 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 2:35:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By 3rdtk:
Call ROTO ROOTER!!!!!!!!!
Jack



Beat me to it.

Ex Lax for AR's
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 3:22:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2004 3:23:35 PM EST by desertmoon]
Using a good quality single piece rod, find a flat topped jag tip ( sort of like an Outers style ) then try to tap out the patch going in the your original direction of travel. Though you may have to tap a bit forcefully ( just work up to the point that the patch begins to move ) it won't hurt your bore if you are simply patient. A bit of fine oil in the bore probably won't hurt either. Good luck.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 4:16:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2004 4:17:57 PM EST by Lord_Vulcanizer]
You could always use some battery acid from out yer car dude. Let it sit for a while until it oxidizes the metal around the patch then it will come right out

But the best idea may be to soak it down really good with some lube and blast it with some high pressure air. Of coarse I really do like the idea of a freshly primed but otherwise empty cartidge casing. Just think how that patch would look if it were to catch on fire as it accelerated out of the end of the barrel

Good luck,
Wes

Edit for crappy spelling
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 4:33:36 PM EST
SAFETY TIP: Never, ever ever ever (DON'T even THINK about it !!)

Do NOT clean your barrel with Preparation-H !!

Doing so will shrink the inside diameter of the barrel to ~ 0.17 !! which may make your
patches stick, and will cause your barrel to BLOW UP next time you shoot .223 ammo.

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Link Posted: 10/27/2004 4:43:05 PM EST
Try thermite, it will take care of anything.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 4:54:57 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 4:55:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2004 4:55:14 PM EST by new-arguy]
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